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301  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] 1THs 1kW 28nm ASIC Miner - Rush Order, Free Shipping, March 18th Delivery on: March 03, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
@ipxtreme: I've PMed you.

Anybody else?  I know it's short notice, but I thought I saw a lot of interest in the other threads that died.
bitmain antminer prices just dropped, makes this unit some what expensive i think
302  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 1.18 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 03, 2014, 07:39:25 PM
Will these coupons be able to be used for any new products that come out such as the S2?

When S2 comes, we will be issuing coupons again  Smiley Smiley
dam bitmain, now mine and everyone else's panties are in a bunch waiting for this new S2!!!
303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Alpha looking for additional miners on: March 03, 2014, 07:37:24 PM
Question: why are there so little coins? Especially, why is the coin wasting so much time on Doge? Doge is not even Top20 on Coinwarz...

Where are AuroraCoin, GrandCoin, FastCoin, Flappycoin and so on?


Your first error was looking at Coinwarz.  Here's a tip:  EVERY coin estimate site is wrong.  Every, damn, one.  Because none of them are current on their chains, so they have the wrong difficulty for most newer coins (which adjust diff per block).  Additionally, they don't know what the reward on the next block is, so they use the "average" reward.



This might be a stupid question but....

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The above table only shows coins where any earnings were generated during the shown shifts. If you submitted shares for a coin and do not see it above, it means no blocks for that coin were found.


So after a shift if we solve no block, the shares for that coin still count till the time when a block is solved right???

Shares are kept in the PPLNS system for 5 shifts (hours), so if we go back to a coin later and solve a block, your time spent previously impacts your rewards.




One thing people need to remember:  There is no concept of "progress" towards a block.  If the average time to find a block is 5 minutes for the pool, and we haven't found one in 10 minutes, that doesn't mean we're any "closer" to finding a block.  The average time is still 5 minutes.  As a result, there is *no* reason to remain on a coin if another coin is now more profitable.

ScryptGuild's coin switching is unique, in that ScryptGuild is on every coin at all times.  On the miner end, switching coins is no different from a new block on the network, with the exception of the old work *might* still be valid.  It means that we can switch coins without invalidating old work.  If your miner submits a share for a previous job after we switched coins, it can still be valid and still solve a block, as long as a new block hasn't been found on that coin yet (in which case it IS stale).
eleuthria, how does your brain fit inside your cranium??  believe it or not I actually understood the above...thanks.
304  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 1.18 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 03, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
Bitmain, can I get any unused coupons??


and again, when do you approximate to ship/deliver?

btw....thanks for the hardwork.

Coupons were issued to the most recent customers, where we are using as a guarantee to help our customers get a satisfying ROI and bring more sales. If you did not get the coupon, you must be a customer who has bought the miner long time ago. I think you may already pretty sure about the investment performance of S1  Smiley
Grin

305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: March 03, 2014, 04:45:58 PM
lies and wank
Go fuck yourself criminal. Do not reply to any of my posts unless it's send the 40BTC bounty you promised to the people who got your stolen coins back.

How did that end up? The scammers refunded the money and that's it? And Phoenix didn't paid the bounty.

He said that the scammers "willingly refunded" so no reward was needed to be paid.  He was in bed with the scammers who "willingly refunded". He paid out some small hush money and that was the end of that.

Thank you. Well that doesn't seem right at all IF the scammers refunded the money after they were discovered by Avanger and Augusto Croppo.
phoenix/avenger

can we end the dispute??

Augusto got over it...so shouldn't we all, and chalk it up to a lesson learned by all parties??

phoenix, scammed or scammer....you did put out a reward, which I personally (just my worthless opinion) thought was that it was stupid to have put such a high reward, something like 3/4 of what you say was scammed....
1. he did it out of desperation
   Which I think is what happened, and Augusto I think accepts that
   Avenger, well, his name says it all??
                      or
2. he never thought he would recover his btc and threw out that crazy reward amount

Now, I grew up in the hood, and I deal with hood types all the time.....and no way is anyone ever going to return something unless they truly believe that they have been caught or will be caught because they didn't cover their tracks well enough......which to me tells me these perp/perps. were either outed by augusto/avenger or these perps somehow turned NICE and returned the scammed btc....

others claim phoenix was in on it.........

well the moral once and forever is trust no one, even when they have been trusted before....

Avenger, can you let it go for the sake of the thread.....and I say you should at least take what phoenix offered for the benefit of the charity, since you did say it would go to charity....whatever phoenix feels is merited is better than zero for that charity

and like that maybe we won't hear of this again......Huh?

ps. TO KEEP THIS WITHIN TOPIC

KNC, BITCOINORAMA, where are you? we aren't mad, just want to chat.....Huh
306  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 1.18 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 03, 2014, 04:32:15 PM
Bitmain, can I get any unused coupons??


and again, when do you approximate to ship/deliver?

btw....thanks for the hardwork.
307  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 1.18 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 03, 2014, 04:20:12 PM
WHY thank you!

order placed and paid. yeehaww!

when do they ship bitmain??
308  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 1.18 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 03, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
Bitmain, when are you opening the store again? thanks.
309  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PLUG & PLAY][Ships 08/03] CHEAPEST! $235 Gridseed DualMiner [PAYPAL or ESCROW] on: March 03, 2014, 03:49:24 PM
atari02, just sent you a pm....thanks.

Replied... check PM
thanks atari02, quick reply. Paid for and now waiting delivery for 10 of these....will keep y'all posted once they arrive.
310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Alpha looking for additional miners on: March 03, 2014, 02:05:39 PM
you are right the miners don't really notice the change, but what ever shares where left behind in the other coin will not payout since we will no longer find a block there

Which doesn't matter, does it?
You can either try to find a block on the old coin or the new one. If the new one pays better, you should try the new one.
Say the pool has accumulated 10,000 shares on coin A, and not found a block.  Coin A is predicted to payout 1 BTC's worth of reward. Coin B rises in profitability, and is predicted to payout 1.1 BTCs in profitability.
Scenario 1: The pool stays on coin A, and after another 5,000 shares it finds a block. Reward per total shares of work is 1/(10000+5000) = 0.0000666 BTC
Scenario 2: The pool switches to coin B, and after 5,000 shares it finds a block. Reward per total shares of work is 1.1/(10000+5000) = 0.0000733 BTC.

The key thing is that you are not working towards finding a block. Each share has an independent chance of solving the block, and the fact that you've already put in 10000 shares of work makes absolutely no difference to the chance that the next share found will solve a block.
so in your scenario 2, we still get paid for the 10,000 shares left in the other coin?? not so sure it works that way, but eleuthria can clear it up....

No, but you are paid a lot more for the 5000 shares in the new coin.
The end result is that you get paid more, so what does it matter how?
In scenario 1 you actually receive 0.0000666 per share submitted for coin A. Lets say you are 1% of the pool, so you submitted 150 shares, and get 0.01 BTC for coin A.
In scenario 2 you actually receive 0.00022 per share submitted for coin B, and 0 per share submitted for coin A. You submitted 50 shares, and get 0.011 BTC for coin B, and 0 for coin A.
In total, you get more money from scenario 2.
I see, but that is assuming we don't spend more time/shares trying to find the new coin than we did looking for previous coin, right?
311  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [PLUG & PLAY][Ships 08/03] CHEAPEST! $235 Gridseed DualMiner [PAYPAL or ESCROW] on: March 03, 2014, 02:03:22 PM
atari02, just sent you a pm....thanks.
312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Alpha looking for additional miners on: March 03, 2014, 01:57:58 PM
you are right the miners don't really notice the change, but what ever shares where left behind in the other coin will not payout since we will no longer find a block there

Which doesn't matter, does it?
You can either try to find a block on the old coin or the new one. If the new one pays better, you should try the new one.
Say the pool has accumulated 10,000 shares on coin A, and not found a block.  Coin A is predicted to payout 1 BTC's worth of reward. Coin B rises in profitability, and is predicted to payout 1.1 BTCs in profitability.
Scenario 1: The pool stays on coin A, and after another 5,000 shares it finds a block. Reward per total shares of work is 1/(10000+5000) = 0.0000666 BTC
Scenario 2: The pool switches to coin B, and after 5,000 shares it finds a block. Reward per total shares of work is 1.1/(10000+5000) = 0.0000733 BTC.

The key thing is that you are not working towards finding a block. Each share has an independent chance of solving the block, and the fact that you've already put in 10000 shares of work makes absolutely no difference to the chance that the next share found will solve a block.
so in your scenario 2, we still get paid for the 10,000 shares left in the other coin?? not so sure it works that way, but eleuthria can clear it up....
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Alpha looking for additional miners on: March 03, 2014, 01:32:24 PM
hey eleuthria.....keep up the mighty dam good work!

couple things i was curious about....

1. when mining in auto mode, I did notice the pool shift coins rather quickly.....wondering if that is a good thing or not....since we do leave shares behind that might not pay out, right? Maybe make it where once we shift to new coin guild has a certain time/ or blocks found before jumping again, so most if not all shares get paid?

2. was also wondering if maybe having so many coins to possibly mine might be more work than it's worth w/ all the bouncing back and forth? Maybe you or a thread consensus of top 5 alt-coins to mine might server better....and of course staying open to adding upcoming worthwhile coins or profitable coins to the guild.
(such as the new Aurora coin, which has a good idea behind it and so far is going up)

And of course I don't know diddly squat...just my 2cents or rather satoshis.

thanks for the hard work @el

The "bouncing" from one coin to another seems to be rather seemless to me.  It's just a "work restart" from the miner's perspective.  It makes sense this way... if a 500,000 doge block is suddenly available and difficulty is ideal, switch over and see if you can get it.

M
m, you are right the miners don't really notice the change, but what ever shares where left behind in the other coin will not payout since we will no longer find a block there.....maybe eleuthria has it setup where we don't make the jump until a block is found so no shares get left behind??
314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Alpha looking for additional miners on: March 03, 2014, 12:48:41 PM
hey eleuthria.....keep up the mighty dam good work!

couple things i was curious about....

1. when mining in auto mode, I did notice the pool shift coins rather quickly.....wondering if that is a good thing or not....since we do leave shares behind that might not pay out, right? Maybe make it where once we shift to new coin guild has a certain time/ or blocks found before jumping again, so most if not all shares get paid?

2. was also wondering if maybe having so many coins to possibly mine might be more work than it's worth w/ all the bouncing back and forth? Maybe you or a thread consensus of top 5 alt-coins to mine might server better....and of course staying open to adding upcoming worthwhile coins or profitable coins to the guild.
(such as the new Aurora coin, which has a good idea behind it and so far is going up)

And of course I don't know diddly squat...just my 2cents or rather satoshis.

thanks for the hard work @el
315  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group buy #3] OPEN GRIDSEED miner BTC/PP/WU worldwide $199.99 USD on: March 03, 2014, 12:30:40 PM
hello maidak, can you let us know more or less how many more units/orders are needed before you place the order?

this would help me decide whether I order or not. thanks.
316  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [INSTOCK in California] Selling Gridseed Asics. Ship from California. [$249] on: March 03, 2014, 11:17:14 AM
I been asking all weekend for pickup and your site says local pickup available....last nite you should have said you were not going to be able to let me pick it up Monday and that I wasn't going to be able to pickup til mid week.........I want to cancel my order now....thanks.

paypal will be contacting you shortly sorry.


ps. more pissed at your lack of info knowing full well that I wanted to pickup....



thanks for the super prompt refund....if these are available for local pick up let me know and I will gladly purchase. thanks.
317  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [INSTOCK in California] Selling Gridseed Asics. Ship from California. [$249] on: March 03, 2014, 09:15:14 AM
I been asking all weekend for pickup and your site says local pickup available....last nite you should have said you were not going to be able to let me pick it up Monday and that I wasn't going to be able to pickup til mid week.........I want to cancel my order now....thanks.

paypal will be contacting you shortly sorry.


ps. more pissed at your lack of info knowing full well that I wanted to pickup....


318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: March 02, 2014, 04:34:44 PM
Except the majority of the networks hash power is controlled by centralised outfits (knc, ghash, etc), they arn't going to switch to Stevejobscoin, because in doing so the value of Bitcoin will fall, and so will their profits. Smiley The infrastructure for Bitcoin is going to roll out nicely in the next few years along with regulation. Also if the globalists are behind it then Stevejobscoin is never going to happen Smiley

don't disagree...just saying (probably way to late for any of my ramblings now) but I'd be muddy'ing the waters ...esp if what they say is true
and apple is coming out with something called "Imoney" ...my above demented plan would work better then that imho

but yeah.....but then again all them farms are bitcoin and sha-256

(I have a warped and evil mind)

Searing

I smell something good cooking in Sweden, and it's not meatballs.
Somehow I still harbor the thought KNC will make customers happy once again.
Searing...
With the reaction over Apple yanking QT off AppleStore...  I seriously doubt I-money will be any real competition, other than die-hard Mac fans like yourself(friendly jibe) nobody would be using it other than apple i-phone users that buy from the apple store; and you will surely be able to buy them with BTC, which reminds me of "Ripple". Cash to BTC, to Imoney, to products seems a bit ridiculous.
But then again.....  people buy "Quarks", "Scamcoin"  and things like "Stablecoin", which is really for the brain-dead. If any traded commodity or coin is too "stable". there's no $ to be made.... because there are no fluctuations. I really hope this stall in price will weed-out some of those ridiculous ones that there is really no use for.

BTW  New Gox announcement today promised by gox for  "COMMENCEMENT OF A PROCEDURE OF CIVIL REHABILITATION" in Japan, interesting.
I like positive thoughts too phoenix.....like maybe for every refund KNC has to return, those that bite their nails til the end get an extra 100GH/s for every refund......that would smell real sweet.....glading dreaming and hoping....is FREE?
319  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if you bought some of those stolen Mt Gox Bitcoins? on: March 01, 2014, 10:09:10 PM
thieves, hackers, inside job person/people, and those who knowingly buy stolen anything (hint: large amounts of BTC at discount price) can be held legally liable (aka jail/prison)......there must be intent for there to be a crime.....

because most of U.S. MONEY  has traces of cocaine, marijuana and other drugs we now have to give back our money?? In theory yes, in reality NO.
320  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if you bought some of those stolen Mt Gox Bitcoins? on: March 01, 2014, 10:04:44 PM
so far I would have to say it's a yes and no answer. In theory yes you have tainted goods, whether its currency or not does not matter, but  no most of us would not have to give it back or have it confiscated because as time goes by and users move their btc around it will become harder and harder to track.

But if you have a wallet full of stolen/missing btc, and it is traced to you, then that would not be good......

the point.....use your btc more and more.......i know i felt stupid when Apple removed btc wallets from the APP store and I didn't have a wallet on my iphone when I could have had one....but alas there is a remedy for that and so now I have BTC (small amount in case of loss)
on my phone so I can eat.....now to find a restaurant that takes my BTC

Get off that iPhone man. Bitcoin is all Android, all the time.

iPhone is good for checking up on that fiat in your Citibank account, because Apple has taken what can only be called an "Anti-Bitcoin" stance.
i know, i know, but i found a work around.....hehehehe.....and i feel good about it because i only use it for good and still get my blockchain wallet....

and Apple wants in on mobile payments is why they are now 100% against BTC.....bad idea on Apple's part.
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