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301  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: November 18, 2018, 07:01:37 PM
Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!)

You are calling bottom on February 2021 or I dont understand that title?   If I dont understand it, when do you expect BTC to bottom?

Yes spot on, the bottom would be due on Feb 2021 and I think it would be ~2483

Snce BTC added segwit though, i'm not sure it will ever run up again like it did in the past.
302  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: November 18, 2018, 06:57:31 PM
However things have changed this time around. When we do reach the bottom, only BCH will bounce.


What version of BCH? Because I already saw three.  Grin

If BTC is being handled to corporations, what can we say of BCH, which was heavily sponsored by Bitmain? And the first fork of it, announced by Jihan Wu? And this new fork, from doctor Craig?

They keep forking BCH, only to fuel ego wars. What this have to do with a P2P idea of money?

Why are they forking it, in the first place? Each fork they do, they weak BCH as a idea.

Also, if they are dumping BTC to cover the costs of their mining wars... those who will be buying it, are the bankers which they disagree with. Dont you see here a contradiction? Dont you see these bankers will use these cheap coins to fuel their projects?

My thought is that BCH devs should focus in payment methods, not on ego wars. Forget this nonsense about "Satoshi's vision", focus on the technicals and prove that you are a viable option. We can only dream of a anarcho-capitalist utopia, because the NPCs, who legitimize the power of the State and the banks, and which are the majority, will not let us go there. We can only have anarchy on the internet, but even the internet is being censored these days.


Would it surprise you to know I am with SV Wink

BCH forked off of BTC, in order to preserve Bitcoin per whitepaper. Same thing happened again. For me ABC is trying to add shit to the base layer that just isn't needed.

Bitcoin doesn't need improving, it just needs maintaining. Rock-star developers always want to show how they are the smartest kid in town though :/
303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: November 15, 2018, 03:10:46 PM
Ok, yes the technical analysis looks quite impressive, however it does not take into account the ETF decision, should be happening at the end of February and then I am not sure the technical analysis will hold when this happens.

Don't get me wrong, I usually believe in TA but it's never 100% right especially with big news potentially coming soon.

Just my 2 cents.

Hey Juno, long time no see Smiley Lets be honest that post above - luckiest call I ever made Wink but man what a call heheh.

So yeah I agree ETF in feb could have an effect on the fundamentals, but fundamentals and market madness are often fighting for dominance!

Long way to february though, and we could see plenty of price action before then. Not to mention what is going on the other side of the Bitcoin pond.
304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is about to collapse this week on: November 14, 2018, 11:45:34 PM
Lol. This thread had merit! Who knew Wink
305  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: November 14, 2018, 04:59:10 PM
Lol, you only show up on your own thread when dumps happen.

Silent as a mouse for months now.

Serious question, can you tell the time? Smiley
306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: November 14, 2018, 04:43:36 PM
oh btw, im *that* good.

307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: November 14, 2018, 04:30:52 PM
I'm waiting for the inevitable update to this title, ".......{<-oops!} months from now (2018 Update!)."

Aw, you know me so well Cheesy
308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: November 14, 2018, 09:17:03 AM
KEEP WATCHING!  Wink
309  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: August 16, 2018, 12:17:06 PM
... I can't remember what I said up thread but I think it was something in the region of 3500-4500...

silly me it's in the title... $2483!
310  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: August 16, 2018, 11:58:30 AM
And you only come and update your thread when the price falls more.

But vanish when the price goes up.

Good luck!  Wink

I aim to not disappoint.
A lot of your predictions seem to turn out to be true. What still puzzles me is that your wrote you believe in Bitcoin Cash. Why?

Nothing more than has already been said countless times. The crux of it is that Bitcoin scales on-chain. Heresay, I know.

It seems inevitable to me that bitcoin will replace traditional cash. It also seems inevitable that, along the way, some people will try to stop that happening. Bitcoin was progressing just fine, adoption was progressing just fine. Now it isn't. It didn't happen overnight, take step back and look at how we got here. It started with Gavin's 20 meg, look at the characters involved, the great thing about the internet is there is a permanent record. Look for the reasons that some changed their position. You will find reasons that do not stand scrutiny. Reasons that are circular, unfounded, inexplicable.

Over time BTC started to become something else, and at first I was mad. Then BCH came and carried on where BTC left off. Now I am at peace again.

I repeat: Bitcoin scales on-chain.

I've been zhoutounged, goxxed, labbed, knc'ed ... nothing has changed my original thesis.

People that talk about "dumping bags" or w/e else are people that are just here to make (traditional) money, they are the ones that are pumping and dumping coins wihtout the slightest clue about what it is they are flipping. It's all just numbers on a screen.

I'm here because the world is going to change, and I am along for the ride. I am not pumping... I am quite convinced BTC *and* BCH are likely to both go down from here. I'm fine with that. I've been HODLing (for the longest time - if you know, you know!) i've seen the rise and fall before. I've watched $100 turn to $20. I've also watched $1 turn to $20. Mostly though I've watched 1BCH remain 1BCH. (There was that one time when 1BTC got me 5BCH though, that was fun Wink I honestly cant believe the opportunity is still there, eventually the door will close)

For those trader types out there, the floor for BTC is most certainly *not* in. I can't remember what I said up thread but I think it was something in the region of 3500-4500, if there were no BCH and if BTC had continued then that is where I would expect a bounce.

However things have changed this time around. When we do reach the bottom, only BCH will bounce. There will be no BTC recovery. Utility is the spark that lights the fire of speculative bubbles. BTC has killed utility chasing the "lightning network" which breaks network decentralisation and remakes bitcoin as a traditional hierarchical network. It's a stated objective in the LN whitepaper - section 8.4ish, I think - look for "routing", read their description of LN at scale.

LN is entirely unnecessary (bitcoin scales on-chain remember). It is a shiny thing to distract people. It's a backward step in creating p2p cash. It re-invents the status quo, and blocks native bitcoin adoption. At best devs/users are misguided, at worst it is intentionally hindering bitcoin's adoption.

If its price you are interested in (and its a reasonable proxy for success), remember: S-curve of adoption (driven by users), overlaid with speculative hype cycles (driven by gamblers). Still nothing has proven that model to be wrong. I'd expect it to repeat a few more times at least before it flattens as the weight of adoption far exceeds the gamblers speculative activities.

Did I mention yet? Bitcoin. Scales. On. Chain.
311  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: August 15, 2018, 02:30:00 PM
And you only come and update your thread when the price falls more.

But vanish when the price goes up.

Good luck!  Wink

I aim to not disappoint.
312  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hi Legendaries! Any predictions as to when will the bitcoin will rise frm 2day? on: June 30, 2018, 10:26:53 PM
It will rise when nobody expecting it. When there is no more hope. When you stop checking prices daily. And we are far away from that point.

This guy is legendary.
313  Economy / Speculation / Re: Near term price prediction. on: June 30, 2018, 10:25:17 PM
You may be waiting some time. Mat is a grand master in the art of "being right but still doing the wrong thing" Wink

Prolly sold all his BCH for BTC too Wink
314  Economy / Speculation / Re: Near term price prediction. on: June 26, 2018, 11:28:27 AM
Quote this for truth:

Buy as much as the fuck you can, right the fuck now. End of January comes and all the sell the (OMG CHINA BANNED BTC) rumours, are gonna buy the news. Not to mention all the "lets see what happens at the end of jan" dollars sat on the sidelines.

When we hit 5 figures your +/-$10 dance is going to look just as silly as all those people arguing about whether it was going up or down a dollar when we were at $12.

Fish. On.


Mat was right. from $800 it went right don to $200. I was such an idiot for telling people to buy and hold because it was going to 5 figures Wink

Here we are again, hovering around $700 could go as low as $200 over the next 18 months, it could bounce and hit 5 figures. Realistically speaking though, the next bubble it will probably be 6 figures. Make sure you are holding Bitcoin "p2p digital cash" when it happens Cheesy
315  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: June 13, 2018, 03:16:38 PM
I don't spend a lot of time here you are right Smiley I'd come to see how badly my prediction had played out, and I couldn't let your comment go with its perfect timing!

I wonder if my comment will prove to be just as perfectly timed if we bounce here today.

Still, selling all BTC when I called top at 16.5k hasn't played out too badly Wink

316  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: June 13, 2018, 02:56:22 PM
Where's dat $2483 bearish call, sgbett?  Or even the $4100 one? Lol

Your timing couldn't have been better Smiley The red arrow is the date you posted. Did you think we were out of the woods?



We gonna hold 6k? I think not. You'll get a nice bounce after that though maybe 8-9.

Thats when the fun really starts, long way to go til 2021 Smiley
317  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Selfish mining for the layman on: April 07, 2018, 12:50:18 PM
I wrote some thoughts about selfish mining. I’d welcome some discussion about it. I’m not going to be upset if I’m wrong just want to understand why if I am!

https://www.yours.org/content/selfish-mining-for-the-laymen-40b049d49d19

First time I’ve ever written something other than a forum post!
318  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: March 30, 2018, 09:23:49 AM
Thanks very much sir for your input.
Now I have deep regrets, the decision I made last year to buy Bitcoin in July, while I was about to buy a year earlier (in 2016), but thought it was too risky and my savings were not big... if only I knew...

Now, I am curious to see how it fairs around the price of $6,000 because we are getting close, just like at the start of February.

I have:
0.18 BTC bought at $8500
1.43 ETH bought at $1100 (worst decision of my life)
0.31 BCH (free)

Things are getting nasty and all the profit I made last year (with BTC) are going to be canceled if I sell. I honestly don't know what to do, I promised myself to wait until November 2018 "wait and see" but recent times have been anything but encouraging.
Anyway, such is life, you win or you learn.  

It's hard. Made harder if you invested more than you can afford to lose!

Imagine its already gone. Every single dollar you put into crypto you should write off. It's the only safe way. Then if you hold and it goes to zero you are break even. Study "The Chart", understand the emotion you are going through, let it wash over you. Easier said than done.

319  Economy / Speculation / Re: Calling top at $16500 (Even Newer!: $2483 bottom 19 Feb 2021 MtGox said so!) on: March 28, 2018, 07:17:57 PM
Hello Juno! cool handle Smiley

Looks like there wasn't anywhere near the rebound energy to get back to 16.5k

I have a theory! (who doesn't!)

I was throwing around some ideas with a mate of mine about the recent top...



The part of the chart where I put "ran out of steam" and then said the next bit of growth might be to do with tether.

It occurred to me maybe that from 10th it was all tether!? I was sure 16.5 was the natural top, so I think what we are looking at here is a "tether boosted top".

Maybe the natural top was even lower. So that would explain a weak rebound to just under 12. Tether has shut up shop now so the real demand is much lower.

So it looks like we are into the second leg down after all (so soon!) where I guess it has to retest ~6. All this could be construed as some monster bullish pennant, but I'm not convinced about that. I think it breaches 6 to the downside 5 is a very popular number on the social media (and thats really all charting is, trying to gauge sentiment) so we'll bounce at 5 then get another upswing. Bottoms in bitcoin have never resolved this way before, I don't expect this to be different - I still think the market wants to "fill the gap" with the gap being the "speculative mania" runup which starts at around 3 (after the first time we hit 3 there was that little bit of consolidation, then it really took off) so I maintain there will be a bit more choppiness before the ultimate bottom in that range 2483 is a rather arbitrary number but its as good as any - it will be that ballpark)

Anyway for me thats all that BTC has going for it at the moment, lots of speculative capital, liquidity and plenty of people doing TA so things might play out like chartists want. Perhaps plenty of opportunity for traders to make bank. Not really for me. I'll continue to hold a little of the XBT in my pension as a hedge (just in case!) and the majority of my crypto in BCH, which I'll be spending and replenishing, as that is the next phase...! I always had a few alts since back in the day, always fun to spin the wheel too Wink

So the way I see it with Bitcoin (and have done since around 2013 before any of this fork debacle) is that the "bitcoin price" is a product of 2 things. Fundamental value and speculative mania cycles.

The first comes from utility and adoption, and follows an s-curve which spans a few decades.
The second is the periodic exponential run-up in price followed by blow off top and a period of consolidation.

The run-ups are great, and fun and everyone loves it but really they aren't the measure of bitcoin. (The one useful thing they add is reading awareness).
The consolidation periods are the real key thing to look at.

Connect the *bottoms* to get your s-curve. Thats the base fundamental price. Each time the speculative run-up is relative to this price, each time it collapses and the consolidation bottom give you the real signal about what is going on.

The fork has complicated things. Could have set thing back 5-10 years. That's 2-3 years of stalled progress whilst everyone bickered and another 3-10 years whilst we wait for core's roadmap to play out to its inevitable end.

It certainly really took its toll on the community, but I have to say after 2-3 years of despair I've never felt more like it's back in the day with people excited about working on things, and a real fervour in the community about where this is going.

The "bitcoin price" doesn't exist anymore, well I suppose as a composite of BTC+BCH price it does, and in that respect the above continues to apply. What's important now (to the bitcoin cashers) is the BTC:BCH ratio.

So BCH is very young, and is still perceived as an alt, and is still subject to a lot of money just doing simple arbitrage trading. That is going to keep the ratio pegged on the most part. The thing is ratio in the short term is not so important, because even if people play it safe and hold both coins. There will come a time when the speculative mania kicks in, and all the while BCH has been building out the infrastructure to cope with this - and if you do a really rough each time is 10x bigger than the last. Then the fundamental value in the capacity of the networks is going to be illustrated.

People who wanted to dump BCH for BTC have done so. People who wanted to dump BTC for BCH have done so. They are the philosophical hard liners. The die hards, the crazies. The people that think you have it all figured out! .... Who me? I er.. well er... no its not like that... ok you got me Wink

The dumps have happened, the pumps have happened, and this is where we are still around 0.1 territory



Now think back to the connect the "bottoms". The same s-curve / hype cycle applies to this ratio, it started out around 1:20, its been pumped a few times by excitable folk, but here we are now around 1:10

and what we have now (and I think its still a good majority) is a cohort who are the ambivalent. They did nothing when it forked, they held there coins and decide to see how things played out. I bet most people reading this post will identify with this - its the star thing to do after all. Why rock the boat?

These people are less interested in philosophical ideals not because they aren't smart enough to get it, but because they probably just don't care as much. Probably still think mostly in dollar terms, they got into bitcoin because its an investment. Investors generally want to make money. They are interested in what works, what sells, what people are buying and *using*.

As things unfold people will see what works and what doesn't and as the ambivalent start to recognise this they will slowly start to rebalance, the chart above already shows the steady creep. Every pump is sold off, but a hard core isn't selling because they "know".

On top of this the whole mining market is balanced on a knife edge. Markets set the price, miners adjust accordingly. The BCH DDA keeps it that way, this  benefits BCH, because it gives miners the facility to juice their returns by siphoning more into BCH as the ratio improves.

I think the ratio will continue to improve, there's no rush. I already switched - I feel its inevitable. Its for the ambivalent to decide at which point they are going make the plunge. Eventually FOMO will kick in, the trickle becomes a flood and there is no way back for a coin, who's primary purpose is a store of value, that has no value.

Thats what I think, but what do I know.
320  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The current BTC growth seems abnormal [Late Feb 2018] on: February 20, 2018, 09:46:28 PM
Seems to be exactly as expected Wink
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