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3181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [UPDATE Wedns 2/22] Withdraw Your TradeHill Balance Instantly- BitInstant on: February 23, 2012, 06:00:19 PM
I can it now on tradehill, but the fees look a bit steep, why would CryptoXChange give a $5 credit while charging $10 in fees? It blows my mind.
Any hopes that it will be lowered?

I was about to make the announcement, will do it now.

No, the fee's were set by TradeHill, not us. I'm sorry.

I just lost all respect for them...  If tradehill ever comes back I won't be doing business with them nor will I with bitcoin.com!   Angry

"The smallest allowable withdraw amount is currently 50.00 USD"    Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

Something sounds extremely illegal about this.

So, if you had less than $50 in your TradeHill account they are essentially telling you "too bad, we're keeping it"?

Whoa dude...
3182  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: 2 BTC bounty - why can't I get lower Mem clocks? on: February 23, 2012, 05:34:26 PM
Why not just use Afterburner?

Edit the MSIAfterburner.cfg

[ATIADLHAL]
EnableUnofficialOverclocking   = 1
UnofficialOverclockingEULA   = I confirm that I am aware of unofficial overclocking limitations and fully understand that MSI will not provide me any support on it
UnofficialOverclockingMode   = 2
AccessibilityCheckingPeriod   = 0

And your good to go.

I think you need to do this to the MSIAfterburner.cfg file.

On my 6970s, I wasn't able to go to 685 until I modified this file.
3183  Other / Off-topic / Re: March 11, 2012 or Bitcoin Tsunami Day on: February 23, 2012, 02:49:16 AM
Only 18 more days until a new world record for locking threads is presented--live.

The current record is 38 minutes and 14 seconds: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=65420.0
Contest only opened up for one contestant. <--here

Psh, I can beat that.

Didn't you read the rules?


I haven't even gotten around to reading the Bible.
3184  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does anyone else here love DUBSTEP? on: February 23, 2012, 02:38:56 AM
The age of traditional instruments is coming to an end. No instrument can produce as many sounds as the computer. DUBstep is the future of music.

I think the same thing. Like I always say: dubstep is the future of music, bitcoin is the future of money.

As for being choked out, I've never had the pleasure, does it sound like what you hear if you manage to pay attention when normally slipping into unconsciousness? To me dubstep definitely sounds like that. It also reminds me of the loony toons.

Also, the wub wub sound is somehow similar to the afterglow when staring at fireworks. It never lasts quite long enough, so I can just never get enough of it. Or get some europium-doped strontium aluminate powder ("long lasting" glow in the dark powder) and a 405 nm (violet) laser, put some glue on a paper and sprinkle the powder. It'll phosphoresce when you shine the laser on it. Watching that stuff dim out is like dubstep on the eyes. You can buy all you need on amazon for like $20 and maybe mess around and observe some quantum entanglement. Actually, I would recommend the glow powder and laser whether you like dubstep or not.

Also, not dubstep but awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6zdj5nazkQ

You must not be a musician.  Computers, if anything, are the death of music.
3185  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does anyone else here love DUBSTEP? on: February 23, 2012, 02:37:37 AM
I like my dubstep blended with metal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK8YSsjIaDs

How bout some metal where the dubstep is in the guitars?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2pMVAgTdiE
3186  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL Single in the wild (send me my bounty!) on: February 23, 2012, 02:30:28 AM
60% efficiency gets better over time yes?
3187  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mining rig extraordinaire - the Trenton BPX6806 18-slot PCIe backplane [PICS] on: February 23, 2012, 02:26:32 AM
This thing deserves a name when you're done with it.

3188  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling $100k+ 50ghs+ Bitcoin Mining Operation w/ 104x 6990s on: February 23, 2012, 02:21:15 AM
$100k?  Damn dude, congrats.  You have as much mining equipment as my student loan debt (edit:  excuse my horribly constructed sentence).
3189  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Buying Precious Metals? on: February 23, 2012, 02:10:39 AM
There are a few places that will sell coins or bullion but as with every BTC vendor they think because it's sold for BTC they can charge high prices for the novelty factor I guess. It just doesn't make sense to pay their joke of a price when you can just cash out the BTC at an exchange and buy the metals from apmex. Even with their credit card fees plus BTC exchange and withdrawal fees it will be lower. If you pay with check or money order it's cheaper yet.

Maybe you have a reason to want to buy directly with BTC? But you can do anonymous buys much cheaper pretty much anywhere not associated with BTC. And the company will be much more trusted than anyone you will deal with that uses bitcoins.

Well argued. Sounds reasonable enough. thanks for the input.

It MIGHT be lower.

Keep in mind that no matter where you go, buying small quantities of (especially) silver or gold coins will cost a good amount above spot price (5-10% or so).  The closer you get to 1 oz., the closer to spot price you will pay.

Local coin shops in the area are selling silver American Eagles for $45-$50.  Spot price is ~$37 for the same coin.

Credit card fees + trade commission fees + withdrawal fees (and, don't forget deposit fees for exchanges -- even if you've kept your money sitting in there for months, it's still a factor) and you're cutting it really really close.

You can sometimes find some good deals in the marketplace section.  I got a great deal on an auction and was able to get some silver shipped for under spot price.
3190  Other / Off-topic / Re: March 11, 2012 or Bitcoin Tsunami Day on: February 23, 2012, 02:04:19 AM
Only 18 more days until a new world record for locking threads is presented--live.

The current record is 38 minutes and 14 seconds: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=65420.0


Psh, I can beat that.
3191  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: 2 BTC bounty - why can't I get lower Mem clocks? on: February 23, 2012, 02:02:51 AM
Yeah it would be interesting if you could test 300 memclock on the 7970 and if that is as effective as on the 5970s etc.

Try flashing BIOS and report back !

Without killing your card.
3192  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: 2 BTC bounty - why can't I get lower Mem clocks? on: February 22, 2012, 11:44:53 PM
Why not just use Afterburner?

Edit the MSIAfterburner.cfg

[ATIADLHAL]
EnableUnofficialOverclocking   = 1
UnofficialOverclockingEULA   = I confirm that I am aware of unofficial overclocking limitations and fully understand that MSI will not provide me any support on it
UnofficialOverclockingMode   = 2
AccessibilityCheckingPeriod   = 0

And your good to go.

I would prefer to do it within CGminer


If it's anything like my non-reference 6970s, then the best you can do is a 150 clock mem-diff unless you flash the BIOS.  Afterburner let me get my memory down to 685 on my 6970s and that was the best I could do without flashing the BIOS (which I won't do because I don't trust myself to do it).
3193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the manipulator drunk? on: February 22, 2012, 11:40:07 PM
I honestly think someone is fucking with the market simply because they can.

There is absolutely no reason to sell when holding and buying with an equal sum of money would have sparked a rally on a number of occasions.  The only thing that's prohibited rallies over the past few weeks besides this guy has been Bitcoinica's little star-friend.

Something ain't right.
3194  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is buying bitcoin really this complicated? on: February 22, 2012, 04:34:50 AM
You could do a cash deposit at a bank through BitInstant into an exchange like Mt. Gox, CryptoXchange, Intersango, or Bitcoinica.

Edit:  I think...maybe it only applies to US banks.
3195  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is buying bitcoin really this complicated? on: February 22, 2012, 03:40:26 AM
Do you have anything interesting to sell that you think we might be interested in?
3196  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is buying bitcoin really this complicated? on: February 22, 2012, 03:24:48 AM
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Is buying bitcoin really this complicated?

Yes. There is no "cheap and fast" solution.

Apparently not even that easy, since Dwolla isn't available outside of the US. So, for a newbie what is the best way of transferring money into BTC from traditional currency? Would it be best to open something like a CryptoXChange account and use wire transfers?

I think wire transfers are with CryptoXChange are temporarily down due to changes/updates they're making with the site.  Otherwise, when they get back up and running with those, it's a good option because it's a $5 flat rate in and out of the exchange (they swallow the typically-outrageous wire fees).

You could also consider selling something of value on this forum first to get BTC. 
3197  Economy / Speculation / Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us. on: February 22, 2012, 03:21:35 AM
Buy!  Tear the house down.
3198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sitting on the toilet with a laptop and an idea on: February 22, 2012, 03:16:15 AM

I think you're misunderstanding my point.  This wouldn't be advertised with Bitcoin as a selling point.  The selling point is a gambling-based laser-tag model which, to my knowledge, doesn't exist yet.  The other selling point is the ability to purchase valuable items with the winnings.


It wouldn't really be a "gambling-based laser-tag" more like skill based
whoever has the most skill wins


I stand corrected.
3199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sitting on the toilet with a laptop and an idea on: February 21, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
Thus, emphasis IS on the brick-and-mortar establishment, and not on Bitcoin.

Oh. Then why is this in bitcoin discussion? Pff.. lol

That said, count me in for a game.

I'd recommend demoing it at the next convention, or making it slowly and debuting it at our DCAO sponsored expo.

Because one successful brick-and-mortar establishment like this could improve the sales of many other Bitcoin businesses, especially if everybody converts their BTC winnings into prizes they purchase at the online kiosk.

Won 20 BTC playing laser-tag?  Admire some new silver while drinking some Bit-Brew coffee.  Local places like this that utilize Bitcoin could have huge impacts on the Bitcoin economy if they were linked together.
3200  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sitting on the toilet with a laptop and an idea on: February 21, 2012, 08:13:02 PM
OP, it seems you're simply talking about opening an arcade/family fun center that merely utilizes Bitcoin as an internal storage medium. It's honestly more trouble than it's worth and it would be the least of your troubles imo. The more this thread goes on, the more it is starting to look like logansryche's theatre.

I'm really more focused on the laser-tag thing.  I agree the arcade/family fun center seems to be more trouble than it's worth.

I'm thinking more 16+, 18+, or 21+ crowd.

That's just it though, I don't see (as a 12 year old brained 27 year old) any interest in doing things just because of Bitcoin more than once, and I don't seen any benefits to using bitcoin to patrons at this point in Bitcoin, but I do see the simplicity that bitcoin can bring to internal and external accounting (as can OTS!) but that stops at the POS for the time being.

The laser tag is also a wild idea in itself and might be better if merged with interactive online experiences. Not a computer game, but a real life controllable game (webcam robot arms anyone?)

Read my post about the paintball tanks that are controlled through wifi and have their own sensors and webcams and even screens on all sides to show the player's mugshot at different angles to simulate them driving, then go look at these photos and you'll see that things can be cool AND accessible when the internet is involved and not just a brick and mortar establishment.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?24983-RC-tank-paintball

http://hackedgadgets.com/2009/01/04/m1a2-abrams-rc-battle-tank/



I think you're misunderstanding my point.  This wouldn't be advertised with Bitcoin as a selling point.  The selling point is a gambling-based laser-tag model which, to my knowledge, doesn't exist yet.  The other selling point is the ability to purchase valuable items with the winnings.

You're right, I don't know many people who, on a Friday night, suddenly decide to say to their friends, "Hey!  Let's go play laser-tag at this new place, I hear they're using...Bitcoins?"  But, I know dozens of people that would say, "Hey!  Let's go play laser-tag and try to win some money!  If we lose, so what?  Everyone pays for laser-tag anyway and they don't get anything in return."

It's simply a model that would add an extra incentive to play laser-tag.  If you win a laser-tag game these days, you get a lousy scorecard that says you won.  Well, now you can brag about the new 1 oz. silver American Eagle that you won playing laser-tag.  And, if you come in 4th place and barely miss out on the winnings, at least it was still fun, and at least you can still go grab a drink at the bar and have a pizza with your friends.  Thus, emphasis IS on the brick-and-mortar establishment, and not on Bitcoin.
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