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341  Other / Meta / Re: Safe Place to make a Draft. on: October 10, 2014, 11:10:07 PM
^he was making a point which you just spelled out. Wink
342  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BMJ: Mining Simulator (pre-pre alpha) on: October 10, 2014, 06:24:06 PM
Back from Florida. Went through ~50% of 000425 squish list today -- fixed a lot of bugs with lending and completed the new exchange screen. Should have rest of it fixed tomorrow. Then it needs to be tested and re-fixed the next day.

WGSE should only take a day to implement correctly. Additional loan feature additions will take 2-3 days only because the list of events for it is terribly long and complicated; hard for me to follow and comprehend. Color-coding I/O page and adding progress bar for loans should take a day... so 000425 "should be" ready for release in 7-8 days.... so it'll probably be released in 10-25 days. Cheesy
343  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is your modeled price in one year? on: October 09, 2014, 06:54:45 PM
$5.5k now, $14.2k in 5 years with ~1/2 of value coming from black market adoption, with remittances making up the other large chunk.

Assuming "fundamental value" increases proportional to exchange rate (market value a bit under 7% of "fundamental value"), market value "should be" ~$970.76 five years from now, with possible price range of $823.60-$2426.91 (using this year's low and high close prices).

.... Oh, I didn't answer the question. ~$505.70-$1490.16 in one year.
344  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coins in the Kingdom: The Bitcoin Conference at the Walt Disney World Resort on: October 09, 2014, 06:27:44 PM
Anyone with audio or video from the conference, please post links here.  It'd be nice to hear some of the talks and get a feel for the atmosphere there.
For a reference in case it's put on again in the future (and for any help it might be to Sean)... it was a small conference with a handful of booths and ~30-50 people there (I was only there for a few hours on Saturday), a good few with kids (kids were either allowed to roam around or kept in a smaller quarantine room). The conference didn't offer too much for young kids to do, though -- nothing terribly exciting, anyway. The talks were geared largely toward the beginner and occasionally intermediate crowd, or else were just philosophical. This was strange given the exhibition area was, charities and "causes" excluded, majority-geared toward intermediates and experts who'd be able to recognize what the people were actually doing. That said, I'm sure booth operators would have been willing to have a go at trying to explain.

It was a very calm, relaxed conference and things were on time. It lacked many of the big names and unfortunately, BitcoinTrader had a large center booth. Maybe Sean was being overly-polite or just figured the negatives would outweigh the positives, but it wasn't a terribly encouraging first sight. Charities and "causes" had a significant presence, including the likes of Ian Freeman of FSP (who managed to get me to sign a statement of intent), Stephanie Murphy of Fr33Aid (though I think she was there for LTB -- maybe both), Bitcoins Not Bombs (shirt's surprisingly comfortable and high-quality -- I almost never wear anything but a plaid overshirt with pants but wore it on the drive home), and BungeeBones. The setting had only a couple chairs and no place for informal sit-down meeting (excluding area outside the actual conference area). Though there was strong 4G coverage throughout the conference area, WiFi was apparently spotty in the exhibition area. I had slight difficulty paying some merchants and charities with cash when they didn't bring any kind of change, so I'd end up, say, giving them a $20 and then paying change in bitcoin, which was fine. Beverages were provided freely, but outside the actual lunch room, the conference wasn't large enough in physical size to accommodate refreshment merchants in the exhibition area or something along those lines (the hotel would probably prohibit it anyway). It was a casual atmosphere with only two suits I counted (and given gigavps was one of them...).

Booths were largely non-interactive and generally featured alpha or pre-alpha products (which isn't terribly useful to beginners, I'd guess), BitcoinOutlet being the major exception (which I was very pleased to see and impressed by, though it ended up taking me ~2h to actually get the coins I paid for). Overall, the small attendance and lack of employment or investment opportunities was a bit disappointing for how far out of my way I went, but it was an excellent conference for people looking for a relaxed setting to talk personally to booth operators without much crowding. It also had a good few smaller projects and operations I hadn't heard of but was very pleased to. OpenBazaar, for example, was an engaging and exciting booth to go to.
345  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian BS on: October 09, 2014, 05:40:50 PM
I've always wondered how Christians come to terms with books or sections lost, censored, and/or banned by early Catholics. The Bible's known to be incomplete, so how can someone take a leadership role of moral authority if the moral authority comes from an incomplete ruleset?
346  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Man's bitcoin mining leads to police raiding his home on: October 09, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
Thats silly. spend all that money to raid someone just for an alleged plant?

u make it sound so innocuous.  but it causes schizophrenia in some people
That'd have to be a pretty major study to prove it. You'd have to collect at least a thousand people people in various age, geographical, and ethnic groups, then have one group smoking and one group not, with regular, frequent drug testing. At the start and end, you'd have to then give everyone a psych exam -- this'd help remove any problems with selection bias, I'd guess.

Given how many schizophrenics are undiagnosed, I'd be more willing to bet the possible temporary paranoia of smoking exacerbates the person's eccentricities enough to lead to hospitalization which then leads to a schizophrenia diagnosis. If they put you in the psych ward to start out with in a hospital, that being on your record might influence whether or not a borderline's diagnosed, too.
347  Economy / Gambling / Re: What prevents casino "pre-rolling"? on: October 09, 2014, 04:10:28 PM
Client seeds will always be required. Either in the form of a transaction id from a deposit, or some user input. There might be a way, and that is to use a third party random number, like from random.org.

It's a lot easier to just ask it from the player and use that.

On a downloaded client, if it is open source, your client can generate the seed unpredictably and fairly. I think the same can be said of client-side javascript.
I vaguely recall an effort to make a bitcoin-based gambling network/"coin"/client a year or two ago. Anyone know of any related efforts?

I'd guess the owner/op operates a platform in conjunction which acts as an exchange for BTC/LTC/DOGE/whatever for these GambleCoins. Transactions would be bets. Nonce comes from PoW mining and confirmations work "normally" to determine validity or previous blocks' bets.
348  Economy / Gambling / Re: What prevents casino "pre-rolling"? on: September 29, 2014, 12:46:19 PM
In provably fair casino's like PrimeDice the number is also determined by the client seed. So even a slightly different client seed would produce a total different outcome.

The scary part is when the casino pre-decides the client seed and the user doesn't change it.

Also, like with DiceBitco.in, they could skip winning rolls by ignoring some nonces (that's basically with you are saying in your first post?), but like with DiceBitco.in, thanks to provably fair users quickly discovered they were cheated.

The nonce is an sequentially number of the server seed - client seed combination.
Thanks! So the server's seed must not ever change, right? It has one seed which generates each future nonce, where each pre-generated nonce is sequentially numbered? Each bet must then be made public, and hopefully the casino isn't betting to get past unfavorable rolls... But if the casino bets, they can still pre-roll so long as it's within a short-enough span of time that the user who would've won would've noticed, yeah?

Even if the client generates a new seed, I'd guess it's possible that the casino already pre-generated a boatload of casino-favorable seeds, so that must be why sites allow users to "invert" their number selection (less than instead of greater than) - to prove they aren't doing that.
349  Other / Off-topic / Re: TeamSpeak or Skype ? on: September 29, 2014, 12:00:06 PM
Apples and oranges. Comparing skype to TS is like comparing a phone to a walkie-talkie. Each have their place.

Not really mate , TeamSpeak is much used from Gamers
That was his point. Virtually nobody uses Skype for co-op multiplayer FPS games and virtually nobody conducts business or has casual family conversations on TeamSpeak. -So you can't really compare the two because they have such different target goals.
350  Economy / Gambling / What prevents casino "pre-rolling"? on: September 29, 2014, 11:50:05 AM
Let's say you win on >90 out of 100.

What prevents the server from quietly pre-rolling with the client's self-generated seed and then re-rolling if the number's ever >90? -So it just dumps "bad rolls" and regenerates until the results favor the casino.

Would users ever notice they're generating and sending multiple hashes even though the casino site's only showing the hashes for the roll which generated a <=90?
351  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk.org censoring satoshi's old conversations? on: September 29, 2014, 11:36:18 AM
Lol. 60% sure this was BadBear's work.

I'm guessing he's written a script which goes through the entire forum to find low value posts like "^This" and "I agree 100%," which in the current time, would be sig-spam without a doubt.
352  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Outdoor Balcony mining? on: September 29, 2014, 11:00:06 AM
I have a 220 line on my deck for a hot tub. 
I considered making a shelter and doing some outside mining this winter.

I think my biggest hurdle would be condensation. 

I have plenty of room for miners in safer places, but I'm sure I'll experiment at some point.

If you are building an enclosed space for the miner, like a shed, maybe you could get away with buying a de-humidifier?
Dehumidifiers suck down obscene amounts of electricity. They're basically air conditioners, but they don't push the warm air outside. Given that, you may's well just use an air conditioner.
353  Economy / Securities / Re: BDK & BDK.BND unit-holders -- Claims/Payment Status on: September 29, 2014, 10:50:27 AM
More and more emails are being sent back by specific anon email hosts.

During the second half of 2015, there will be a "pulse check." Basically, in the middle of the year, I'll be sending out an email separate from the normal monthly payment confirmation email. It will ask unit-holders to respond to the email. Each month after the first time it's sent out, I'll continue spamming the email addresses which didn't reply each month until it's 2016. Starting with the January 2016 payout (made on December 31st, 2015), everyone who didn't respond to the email will be purged from the payout list.

The goal is to not pay dead people unless there's fair reason to believe beneficiaries control the address on file. The reason for this goal has three sub-goals:
1) I'll be pretty annoyed if it turns out I'm paying a significant sum of money to what amounts to a black hole, but the annoyance would be much more grating if I continued paying to a black hole.
2) A decrease in units on the payout list increases per-month payouts to units still on the list since the amount paid per month is static and simply divided by outstanding units.
3) The current default debt is 1383.8357BTC. Given initial settlements and monthly payments have drained my reserve balances to practically nothing, pulse checks are likely the only way to make that payable in my lifetime.

After the 2015 pulse check, the next pulse check will occur at the end of 2020, then at the end of 2025, then at the end of 2030, etc until I die (or am incapacitated) or the debt's paid off.


As a side-note for anyone no longer in the loop: I was hoping to have decent info on how someone could do a tax-reducing write-off of the debt, at least in the US. This was possibly attempted by up to two people in the past year (one in US, one in Aus), but I haven't been able to get info on how the process would look, technically, so still can't provide useful advice on the matter. I do have a "document bundle" email I can send to you if you'd like to attempt it, which tried to prove all of the essentials needed for a crypto-savvy tax professional to successfully make the claim.
354  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Outdoor Balcony mining? on: September 24, 2014, 11:27:09 AM
OP, I don't have the time to explain everything, but so long as you are confident your operation won't go down, the only thing that may have a problem with temperature delta is the PSU.  The heat generated from the miners will be more than enough to keep condensation off, though... So I'd say go for it, just have a spare Psu in case...  But I have all of my miners outsideand I've never had a problem, two of them reside on my balcony, in fact.     
I've had a similar experience. I kept a few in garage last Winter with a door open and had no problems. The garage is slightly warmer than outside, while area around mining rigs is warm, and of course inside the cases is quite hot, so as long as humidity isn't 100% and we just recovered from a long power outage, chance of critical failure is pretty damn low. I suppose a power outage with a large operation and a low-R ceiling/roof with certain other conditions could actually form rain clouds in a building (or maybe at least fog)... that'd be really cool. It'd ruin a lot of stuff, but I'd be tickled to see it raining inside the garage.

Err - anyway - I'm not sure I'd like the idea of wind going directly into the mining rig enclosure, though.
355  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian BS on: September 24, 2014, 11:04:31 AM
Quote
Exodus 21

These are the ordinances that you shall set before them:

2 When you buy a male Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years, but in the seventh he shall go out a free person, without debt. 3If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. 4If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s and he shall go out alone. 5But if the slave declares, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out a free person’, 6then his master shall bring him before God.* He shall be brought to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him for life.

7 When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. 8If she does not please her master, who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed; he shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt unfairly with her. 9If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. 10If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish the food, clothing, or marital rights of the first wife.* 11And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go out without debt, without payment of money.  

Those fucking Christians am I right? Tongue

Perhaps you wanted to blame the jews as the Exodus been written by Moses for the benefit of the jew community...about 1200 years earlier than the first christians turned up Smiley.
Eh. Christians are Jews.... they've just evolved very, very differently from each other. The Jesus Jews seem to've just wanted a new set of rules.
356  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christian BS on: September 23, 2014, 10:52:03 PM
Christianity today isn't what Christianity was 2000 years ago. Most Christians don't want to admit this, but wouldn't adhere to "Real Christianity." Much of it's irrelevant if not outright counter to ideology held by most of today's modern Christians. Instead, it's a set of rules guided by men, often at conferences where they talk about which rules to ignore in the Bible like it's a US attorney general talking about which rules of the Constitution to ignore, whose rules are relayed (either in these conferences or through television/pamphlets/whatever) by pastors/deacons/whatever to members of this voluntary government. This is true of all religions I'm aware of.

-So when they talk about their religious customs or opinions extrapolated from any religious text, I think it's worth respecting insofar as it's worth respecting that they willfully submit to a set of rules which generally command they act in a way the rest of us would consider moral. Geography-based, non-voluntary governments aren't generally accepted to enforce "non-pragmatic morality" (... .... though this thought seems to be eroding every day), so it's reasonable to have "gap coverage" for people who want a more comprehensive set of rules we "all" agree on. The value of religion, though, erodes dramatically if they don't command a high market share with regards to the adherent market.

-But it should be sold that way, these days, I think, if it's to be honest. It should just be a kind of honor code, and if you want to have a bumper sticker saying you adhere to the set of rules, and even if you try to "convert" people to accept your honor code -- great! At least everyone else can know what to expect. ... I'm not totally put off to the idea that honor codes should exist... but the books of most religions are far too long, and in archaic language. The Bible, I'd guess, could probably be compressed to ~20 pages at most.

We all want these kinds of rulesets to some extent, I think. Some want the exhaustive Bible list (or just the 10 Commandments), some want the exhaustive list in the Koran... some have their own individual codes (or as they interpret the NAP)... some go by mafia codes... some go by law. If we could just all agree on what is and isn't the behavior of an asshole, I'd guess there'd be no conflict.
357  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: 2^256 Deep Space Vagabond on: September 23, 2014, 10:29:06 PM
There's no reason to start a new thread. This one has a fair number of subscribers all interested in DSV's goals. AFAIK, DSV is abandoned ATM. I doubt OP cares so long as chatter is relevant to the implicit mission statement.

I'd suggest the biggest indication of dysfunctional "address trolling" is that you need a lot of disk space. Why bother keeping addresses -- you'd just want to check them for coin or if they're likely to be active, yeah? If you have a backlog of 1.18PB, the software, I'd argue, is dysfunctional. The addresses should be checked as discovered to determine if they're active or hold coins, or both. In cases where coins are found, they should immediately be sent to the thief's address, but then they shouldn't be stored in memory since the legit owner knows it's compromised. In cases where the address is found to be active, it should be stored on file, but suggesting you need 1.18PB in storage for this is ridiculous. You've found 5 addresses with coins, right? Why store the other 1.18PB of them? Why are we even talking about storage space with an effort like this? You want to prove a government could monitor all these addresses, but this can be proven theoretically -- we know they could store a significant number of all addresses, but the trouble is in generating all of them and checking them, yeah?

If you're a thief, why release the software publicly? You sound like a white hat trying to pretend your a black hat (a "hyena"), so maybe just very humble -- one of those hardasses with a heart of gold. The alternative would be that you're full of shit and have dysfunctional software unable to achieve its goals. I doubt you, but don't mean to come off as hostile... I don't hold many coins but am definitely interested in objectively learning about progression in this field. All the best!
358  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if the spike is Sonny and Josh hiding their dollars? on: September 23, 2014, 10:12:44 PM
If so they would be stupid to use bitcoin, still traceable. 

Maybe one of the dozen or so anon coins?  Monero, anyone?  lol

You could send btc to btc-e, buy ltc, buy btc again, transfer to new address. Good luck tracing that.
Unless I'm mistaken, BTC-e is at least slightly concerned with operating within government laws and probably has information a government bureaucracy would find very interesting and which is reported straight to government agencies regularly and without a warrant. The whole process needs to be stricken and rewritten. ETA: -Errr, or maybe I'm wrong. I forget everywhere is not the US and I'm unsure if BTC-e even serves US customers while also being unsure of which governments claim jurisdiction over them and what those relevant laws'd be.
359  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Been browsing for months and contemplating owning a couple BTC, but... on: September 23, 2014, 09:26:31 PM
Why would Mr Joe the janitor want to buy BTC? or why would he want to prefer being paid in BTC rather than FIAT?
Why would the average Joe family want to risk their hard earned money by buying BTC? How would their life change for the better?

Some advantages of bitcoin transaction are anonymity, decentralization, fast and low fee.

Is there any way Mr Joe can send $10000 to another person and pay only a few cents for fee?
Is there any way Mr Joe can wire the money across the globe and the whole transaction can be completed within minutes?


Wait, you are implying that Mr Joe's first worry is sending 10K to another person (who the hell as ever done this) or wire money across the globe (again). Mr Joe's entire saving may very well be 10K and that's if you are lucky. Mr Joe has never left his native country. Mr Joe don't want to pay exchange fees, or go through the hassle of buying BTC (exchange identification and so on) for no reason.
If Mr. Joe is Mr. American Joe, he's probably making a bit under $50k per year. If he only has $10k in savings, he's probably a teenager. He'll likely make more than a couple $10k payments in his life, and probably a lot over his lifetime if he's young (factoring inflation in assuming there's no global econocalypse where even nominal wages plummet YoY). US citizens don't really do savings, though, so maybe not - but even so, Mr. American Juan is probably much more interested in the ultra-low fees, especially since there's a fair chance he's paid under the table (since BTC could be paid to him for remittances, possibly along with USD for his own expenses, BTC as a currency to be paid in would likely command a slight premium while possibly also making his employer breathe easier knowing there isn't a heavily-traced $1k money order going out to Mexico each month when, on the books, Juan isn't employed).

I'd argue, though, the bigger reason to take BTC is that we're increasingly becoming a global world with remote work opportunities, where BTC is the clear winner. Joe the Janitor might not care, but Joe the designer, Joe the coder, or Joe the international wine exporter (among literally thousands of examples coming up in the globalized e-commerce) is probably more likely, where there's a fair chance his employers don't live in the same country. An example I like to throw around is when I was working with the Let's Talk Bitcoin transcription project. Our donor, Qwk, is in Germany. I'm in the US. Our most prolific transcribers were in the UK, while others came from Pakistan, India, Brazil...... trying to make regular, instant payments in fiat would've been nuts (in many cases, we would've needed to convert currencies twice) -- but usually, each payment required no fee using BTC and everything was dead-simple.
360  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney) on: September 23, 2014, 09:15:40 PM

I don't think he is gone. His body is kept in cryogenic state at the Alcor Life Extension Fundation.
We may see him back in a near future.

I suppose the good news is, assuming trends stay the same - each day he's kept in cryogenic state, his life expectancy is probably increasing at a rate faster than any toll taken from being in a cryogenic state. I wonder if there'll ever be a day when healthy people have themselves "frozen" as an investment in themselves... or maybe trust fund babies just want to see the future. Cheesy
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