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I think, starting now and thinking longer-term, you would have better luck running a kind of ghetto, distributed server farm for more general-purpose uses, which, for most profit, would likely be GPUs brute-forcing passwords. Whatever you're mining on (except maybe GPU-dominated algorithms, where electricity will remain a factor and today's hardware may still bring in significant revenue) likely will produce practically nothing within three winters and may not RoI even with it subsidizing your heat costs.
That said - ASIC prices will continue a downward spiral until electricity costs in running them becomes a real concern again rather than just worrying about initial cost and whether they'll RoI within the first six months before they become practically useless. Maybe, then, this idea is The Idea, but it might be good to wait at least a couple more years.
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lol, this thread is actually the reason I stopped using mtgox  I think, more than anything now that I'm looking back at "historical events" in BTC space, I'm going to consider closed-source implementations and closed accounting to be a flat-out black flag until regulation's in place which demands opening books, at least to government officials (though that'd still be a crappy-enough solution to be a red flag). Nobody should be allowed to take custodianship over anything of value of anyone else without open books; I'm convinced of that, now, and I won't use anything not complying with something so fundamental to the zero-trust concept irreversible currency demands. |
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@SoF, that's not even remotely relevant to the discussion, then, since it has nothing to do with branding, but with differing state regulations on gasoline where some refiners and manufacturers are more inclined to cater to certain markets with particular regulations. Pointless discussion: we have the Internet. I didn't know many currency codes until I Googled them. It takes 5 seconds to do at most. "BTC currency code" -- You want to buy Bitcoin on a conventional, large exchange in the future, that's all it takes.
I really doubt anyone will give half a damn that some organization has labeled Bitcoin as coming from "X," partially because I doubt more than .001% of people will even know what the Hell "X" means.
The point of the discussion is to bring clarity as to the pros and cons of the community using BTC over XBT (as the ISO standard would have it), because some people are using XBT instead of BTC, creating some degree of confusion. A newcomer or businessperson might think: "These Bitcoin people can't even settle on what abbreviation they want to use!" To settle on one or the other seems like a wise/clever thing to do. I got you, then, mostly. I don't see why anyone would try fighting the momentum and trying to use "XBT" in normal communications in the same way few people call the Baht a "THB." (by the way, THB on Google with my particular location and search history [which has included the Baht] -- only one of the first five results is specifically for the Thai Baht, while the first result is for a bagel store) Trying to use "XBT" just seems utterly futile at best, and, as you mention, confusing at worst if there becomes a significant amount of usage, perhaps outside of large, conventional currency exchanges which may accept BTC in the future (though Bitcoin's obviously very unique here, and maybe I am underestimating the impact of having multiple "official" abbreviations). I don't see why common-use vernacular should ever change to conform to some ISO ruleset, though, which is pretty much never done. We have "alkaline AA" batteries, not "LR6." Nobody would know what the Hell you were talking about if you went into a Target and asked if they carry "LR6s." I'd guess they'd point you over to their gun selection. |
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Pointless discussion: we have the Internet. I didn't know many currency codes until I Googled them. It takes 5 seconds to do at most. "BTC currency code" -- You want to buy Bitcoin on a conventional, large exchange in the future, that's all it takes.
I really doubt anyone will give half a damn that some organization has labeled Bitcoin as coming from "X," partially because I doubt more than .001% of people will even know what the Hell "X" means.
Brand name bitcoins just like they brand name gasoline Kluge It's essentially the same but they can advertise it differently Brand-name gasoline??? That's gotta be a European thing.  |
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Pointless discussion: we have the Internet. I didn't know many currency codes until I Googled them. It takes 5 seconds to do at most. "BTC currency code" -- You want to buy Bitcoin on a conventional, large exchange in the future, that's all it takes.
I really doubt anyone will give half a damn that some organization has labeled Bitcoin as coming from "X," partially because I doubt more than .001% of people will even know what the Hell "X" means.
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Japan has the pure culture its our Western culture that tinged it  The wink implies sarcasm, right? Japanese history isn't covered in most Western textbooks, but between a horrible feudal system where Charles the Bad would be called a pussy, genocidal xenophobia, and live vivisections of PoWs without anesthesia (within the last century)... well, okay - I guess it's pretty racially pure. |
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I'm gonna assume you meant depraved rather than deprived. Here's an objective, scientific, authoritative list going from most depraved to most successfully repressed: 1) Germans 2) Scandinavians 3) Kazakhs (and surrounding areas with ancient tribal ties) 4) Japanese 5) "Extra weird" Talmudic Jews 6) Western Africans 7) Americans 8 ) Brits 9) French --"Normal line"-- 10) Danes 11) Iranians 12) Others in northern continental Europe 13) Waldensians, Amish+  : Chinese, Russians, Italians, Turks, Indians, Austrasians, South Americans, most "middle Europeans" |
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I hate to be grim, but maybe some of them survived an initial crash, then sank later. Could that account for the phone anomaly?
that can be one angle that explains it, i also read the interview about the brother whos sibling logged into his QQ group account but wasn't responding even though he appeared "online" . Seems like his smartphone caught some kind of data roaming service and his app auto-logged in. Hmm. that makes sense. I thought that maybe that happened as a suitcase was floating on the surface, but he should have had his phone off / in airplane mode. Right? In any case someone should be able to find out what tower his phone was pinging. That should help define a search area. Or maybe his QQ account was hacked? "Airplane mode" requirement isn't global. |
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Pizza Connection aka Pizza Tycoon   Pizza Tycoon scared me shitless as a kid... not like Phantasmagoria or other "horror" games where you expect it. Something about it deeply disturbed me, like I thought the developer was playing with me before stabbing me through the monitor. Idunno -- you know how kids can get paranoid about strange things... maybe it's time I face my deepest fear...  Definitely XCOM, though, as a favorite. I still pick it up every few years. There was also some kind of drug tycoon/sandbox/rpg/whatever game I liked which I haven't been able to ever find (I did find Homey the Clown again and have no idea why I enjoyed that game when I was little, though at least Castle of the Winds still holds up). I don't remember the FPS games I played as a kid... they all looked about the same. |
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I have successfully escrowed deals for pcfli selling these miners. I highly recommend that anyone purchasing them arrange for escrow with myself, as there have been no problems thus far with escrowed deals. Same here. Pleasant, painless transaction. Took well under a week to go from the order being placed to releasing escrow to pcfli. |
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bump ETA: Thanks to deslok, this request is now filled. |
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Have you tried BitGo ( https://bitgo.com)? BitGo is a theft-resistant wallet that uses multi-sig built on P2SH. 3 keys issued, 2 required to sign any transaction. One key is stored with BitGo, one with the user, and one offline. Security of multi-sig with the ease of use of online/mobile access. We've published a whitepaper ( https://www.bitgo.com/p2sh_safe_address) on our tech and open-sourced a lot of components. Our tech was built by a team compiled of veterans in online security and digital currency. In addition to the security of multi-sig, our platform enables additional protections like spending limits, network fraud detection, and whitelist addresses. This means that you could design a specific-use wallet that can has limits on how much can be spent in a day or where you could spend your funds. If a thief took your wallet/phone, they would be stopped by these protections and you could move your funds to a new wallet later on. Please give BitGo a try and let us know what you think! https://bitgo.comLearn more about BitGo at http://bitgoinc.comInteresting. Will check it out. Thanks! |
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Can somebody please enlighten me how companies in Washington, or specifically in Seattle, are only paying $0.02/kWh for electricity?
Or is that just the unit of kWh, without demand charges etc?
Does this also scale, say 1MW, 2MW, 5MW etc?
Scale? What do you mean...? Depending on the electricity provider, they'll often effectively have either progressive or regressive pricing schemes based on how much you use, though they'll sometimes (not always) also offer flat-rate pricing for heavy users. Most companies give a near-useless "base cost" number, or "number to compare," which doesn't factor in taxes, "volume restrictions," cancellation fees, "minimum use" charges, and a whole host of other stuff you can't fit into a cute, single number. When asking if it scales, it's asking if the price for a KWh after, say, 1MWh is consumed, will cost the same or near as a KWh after, say, 50KWh is consumed. Best way I've found for finding best electricity price is to look up a map of electricity providers for the state (in the US), seeing who claims what territory, then looking them up one-by one and reading through their god-awful "fee schedule books." Some will have a fixed rate which can only be changed annually or some other scheme designed by government bureaucrats, some change each billing cycle, some have "real-time" rates based on nonsense, some charge you based on the time of day you're using your electricity.... some will charge you less if you're old (not kidding) but tack weird restrictions.... this is ignoring the "sign-on bonus" market which exists in some states, which is a whole other clusterfuck of legal nonsense and manipulative advertising (though maybe beneficial if you play it right). |
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Doesn't he run a community-driven online encyclopedia with crosslinks? I'm pretty sure they have a Bitcoin entry. |
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Everyone can refuse service, and you may pressure them into refusing service if you don't like the particular bitcoin or want them to implement some kind of taint analysis engine using some kind of blacklist.
Otherwise, feel free to waste your time trying to fork it yourself.
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I've seen them using it, and we really need to think about contemporary safety solutions due to the demographics shift. I'd suggest investing in a waterproof cold storage PC and having it in the middle of your deep safety pool (I keep my valuables in a baggy at the bottom). Always run Windows (classic theme) or, ideally, Linux (have it boot only to a console).
Remember the Three Big Black Ds:
1) enDanger; try to keep your privkeys near wind and water. The goal is to make the environment hostile to Negro hair, shoes, and phones.
2) Diligence; Maintain a watchful eye, and if the Negro looks too large to handle or comes in numbers, CALL THE POLICE. Don't wait for something to happen.
3) Divert; plant a watermelon patch, but ensure it's far away from anything containing a filled BTC address.
Also, as Franky mentioned, we have to keep the spearmarkets from accepting bitcoin. I don't think you can currently buy spears with bitcoins, so we might be good for now, but don't forget Diligence.
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50 BTC addresses were generated as escrow addresses for this raffle. The following is a list of list of truncated (missing the last six characters) addresses so you can check them against the address MBW gives you to ensure they're legit. These will be stricken out as they're used.
16FvMGqhd51L8AhYmHKEHrbQsEh1......
194rtjM7WPEWftpMHXmzi9Xe2jsa......
1N3Hic4u6Fvo5sTuEusWKDfKLAyh......
168QZc28putpKUBBNHwFTS6ZjMY8......
16UvBxbeKrcR64m5si8DUiXWoqi8......
14ZbXZpxrDj7ZCgqjhpL28HZW7kk......
1DSSVoGmc9AU5jACJAp2UEu9E5gr......
1MxHV41bm1aa51n4prvyvpEtenED......
16eLtcMVoYPyXuQ3dfrXrH6QhNmR......
1Pjh5XeXhurhZJGjfKZc1CnpSSHC......
1FnzfKW1d8UBuXcvpTStd1ZbK9HD......
14PHRTVJtpPc3KvQxz5p359FyctL......
1QHXrn3zqyVY5zgVFWV8tN5vq3DY......
12DzfG9VBqRXsDTKAL2JJEEJ882x......
15HBE72UhB7UqAor7qv8irmeR8MS......
18pNHdd9T9EwzhDbrX4Vxs333C7y......
1NL28PN8cfk12ttkj1zSzQEjnMrP......
1JRTNNH8ANndX8vUsguuJT73cHgA......
1JuqpsGkKpwEg3oPUmtWZuRPvJfn......
17txVoWVexnbUwErNxBJ2RuqfbtU......
1HEpMVz5NoVhxtE1pJfV8ZCdc7GZ......
14zqp2X7VTMsf8ip27NpUbSyBAtb......
1FrRAgiP8KSRDGZwfg9N62r2NwmG......
1D5pWTyXmtpPS5ivYRKjD71uM4qk......
1Ej6fRQvaD7rpmV2v6XzzijRT21v......
164SM1q4JZCJwf186QLv2untBipL......
1BuRVtJRB5fG8GWWaf3dF3V9dsMc......
1Nf6beiWAkDzXeZzFdi7vRwxLiS8......
1BAbGsq9Fe4VW451GHimjvq1HcJ9......
1C239xkUKPrvMPaGWBN7EP3MyCPk......
1EPpHUyWaB7v3bgLjcacY91U4ZmH......
1B5M4F9R23S3nyAW5Mzeqh4N2JJ1......
1Kp3cRDWgZgvCxGTLB8CVcfE8L2A......
1KSPwvy5RVk9ruQSYZQVg3kM8Xk6......
1D9FDJZ5wHAj1SnmxUB8K4fYw7tp......
1E37hDuk5y4mvbPMW5nsdz7e8utD......
1L8A8tcE9xrq6g8Ntv7U8NYmAYvT......
1GJ2daW7QeFAHntKzP7x7GgQHcdV......
1EJADcGVfmAex5sGQ4p2hztF78vB......
1Ce71BHpnG4KN2LRFgFktsYLPYjq......
1TExMLbjLfec1kxhkGuYHYZ3sdC......
1NwH2mKgET29vk1PSkdQUaFnfMRd......
1LT4aHp5ZnnyMDPCmDSiJGT3gCrm......
1NtT6AVnS3xNXTFjKYahwMmGYesJ......
1NsQMZqTTYUpj7ze5PWZ2BxuJ3mC......
1Pnvj8VuCa94n9mNW6DpZm1CWNYq......
1Q6KM2wCyX2URZtQKaehpjN87UQY......
1HPAML5sGFMABSfGLAn4Ga5dBsuy......
1Lkc7QpJ1Tw4yht3yBn7GNQZFYtv......
1An96vpA6fbBXE4jJxMYy9jYt2fnc......
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Favorite part, too - mostly the reaction of the pizza guy. Had to wait for Youtube buffering here:  |
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Oh, man, you almost got someone! Not very educational when teacher ends up being at the bottom of the classroom barrel.  |
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