... harassed ...
Sadly the hard drive with my keys was lost in a boating accident. All I have left to show is a couple of hundred on my (fully validated) poloniex account. So naturally I will be a dip buyer again. You're telling us you didn't make any backups? Can't tell if serious... Of course he's serious. Everyone knows higher IQ lowers practical sensibility  Now I can't tell if you're serious.  aminorex was pretty clearly trolling, I wasn't sure if dEBRUYNE was playing along or didn't get the meme. |
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@RJ
Yes we can wait, 10 years is nothing in life. I know from speaking to you privately that you're a young man too. I'm totally relaxed about the situation at the moment. Our ultimate goal is mainstream adoption, obviously if that does occur then the big prices will follow naturally.
We're still in accumulation phase. Every single satoshi counts at the moment. Stay calm & patient, we're in this for the long haul.
The HODLERS club is amazing, although it's full of pain and blood, but in the end, the sun WILL shine. You sound like you have no real idea how this is going to happen - just a blind gamble that the rest of the world will somehow pick you to be the new elite. How many wealthy people do you know who got wealthy simply by buying... money? Not too many, but the ones I do know bought BTC (or other crypto). |
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Glad nobody bought my Moneros... If it drops, I will be there for the coin. Been scooping approximately 1000 XMR also today (more than 5 % of today's emission) and I am happy for each of them.  Actually >7.5% |
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Not sure if I wanna say where it was from...
maybe wait and see IF the party in question sees this post and contacts me first?
Again it's not so much I wanna keep the free thirty bucks, LOL, but more-so I'm concerned if this might somehow damage Monero, or Monero's reputation... OR even damage this particular third-party's reputation, who sent it, IF they could be somehow exploited by it too? I wouldn't want to do that, either, so kind of have to step lightly here maybe...
Really kind of strange, actually, since even THEY so far don't seem to have noticed anything went wrong?
Hmm.
I assure this has nothing to do with Monero, at least not the Monero *network* (it's possible some implementation somewhere is responsible). There was no double spend. Someone sent you coins twice. So yes, I'd recommend caution (you could contact the party in question as well), but not for Monero's sake. It has happened before, monero should roll back the chain and fix the problem before more double transactions
L.O.L. |
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Okay guys... sorry, no problem, just this stuff still kinda new to me.
If the info's already accessible from just part of trans ID?
Well OK then. Not meaning to be annoying LOL
So, here they are:
Transaction 1:
51 Monero
03 August 2015 10:34:31
6a079c43ad933128cb4dd27ce9b5dfbe9d3cfe17ff474f746b0fb6b7dd2c77b0
Transaction 2:
51 Monero
03 August 2015 10:34:31
d38abd823543238d3ff437c5f8e878f39dfb3bc80245dc2528c9a72c188187db
So... what's up?
What happened here??
Thanks. What I was saying was that the info you left was enough to (almost certainly) uniquely identify your transactions, just that there exist no tools to search by partial match at the moment (thus requiring motivation). Looking at the txs in question, it's clear they came from the same sender. Was this an exchange withdrawal? It looks like their systems screwed up somehow and send you your money twice. From the network's perspective, there was no double spend or anything of the sort. Edit: I do hope you've not discovered another withdrawal exploit at Polo. That would be sad. |
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how should we talk about this if you dont tell us the transaction id's?
and no, we wont type it off some picture. copy paste it here
Yes please. The "identifying" info you left is easily enough to find those transactions, given a bit of motivation. Why make it annoying for us to take a look? Post the full IDs of the two txs in question in *text* form. |
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1600-August-1
Gazing out of the Throne Room window (there is no window of course, because they were blown away what feels like a century ago, but actually was last spring), we see the town and townspeople maturing. Many things have happened and the game has gained stature even during this time of (nearly) paused time. It is the time to recognize the higher status of many of the pillars of society.
Promotions in/-to Nobility
The Prince of North Face has been created the First Duke of North Face. "HH The Duke is primus inter pares in the Town Council and one of the most upstanding characters in the whole game."
The Earl of Rome has been promoted Marquess. "The Marquess Rome has proven himself to be an upright person and a help in need."
The former Earl of Rome returns from his travels far and wide to this wonderful news. Having passed the nearly destroyed Lucky Lion building, the new Marquess heads to his favorite place, the top of the Grail and Quail, where he sits pensively, humbly grateful for HM's magnanimity. He has a lot of catching up to do, but notes that he still has the second highest hoard of stone in the kingdom. With reconstruction beginning, he feels comfortable with his position! |
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Honestly, anything under $2.00 is ridiculously cheap....
I'll sell you some XMR at $1.99. How many do you want ? I'll pay you 2 cents per 10 Monero for an option to buy Monero from you at $1.99 until December 31st, 2017. What do you think about that? Hmm, that seems a bit (a truly monstrous amount) under the money. You could buy such an option on 10k XMR for only $20. A call for 879 days away at 100% vol atility should go for about 18 cents. On ten XMR, that'd be $1.80, so only 90x more than your proposal! (Would anyone actually sell options at less than 100%?) Edited for clarity. |
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Is that okay?
Perfectly.  |
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Really like what you're doing, Bronero. Keep it up! If you pm me / add a donation address in your sig I will transfer you some. Thank you, but donations are really not necessary. I would rather see them go towards the development team. My goal is the same as everyone else. I want to see Monero grow as a currency. Adding more exchanges is a short term goal of mine. If the entire community could rally around the idea of making frequent contact with exchanges that would really help. So would volunteering to fill in the missing areas on getmonero.org. Wait, my spreadsheet is on Twitter? ...  |
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... harassed ...
Sadly the hard drive with my keys was lost in a boating accident. All I have left to show is a couple of hundred on my (fully validated) poloniex account. So naturally I will be a dip buyer again. You're telling us you didn't make any backups? Can't tell if serious... |
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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.
Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7. Edit: Can one compile Monero on an IPad or would the DRM get in the way? Yet it is simple to trade Monero using an iPad. Actually it's mostly just copy/paste from the README, and certainly much faster than installing Linux (if you don't have it already). |
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beside me question as community, how much users BCN, and there is rich-list?
Rich list: BCN team: 82%+ Everyone else: 18%- |
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The point being made was nobody's made any real money out of XMR 2x $100,000? 90% of the posters here drool over the thought of that much money.
100k-200k is nothing if we truly understand the scope of technology we are talking about. I guess this is one of the key points. Hopefully we'll look back and laugh about a handful of people making a few 100k. My issue is just with propagating this idea that there hasnt been some 'big' (depending on your definition of big) money already been made with this coin. I think it's pretty generally agreeable that "big money" (with the backdrop of BTC and LTC) does not describe Monero. You're basically saying with near perfect trading (or you were dga/pttx) you could've made, say, 100-200k USD. Very very few people could've actually done what you describe, as the market is so small still. In "success" stories (they've not nearly succeeded yet) such as BTC and LTC, multiple people made millions. We're talking ~1 billion+ market caps that came out of almost nothing. Monero's highest market cap was what, 7-8 million? It also started with a higher market cap because of the alt-boom going on at the time. Anyway, congrats on your profitable trading. |
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Edit: It looks like I'm a little late to the party, but hey! I posted pics. I was able to sync bytecoin full client with less than 4G of ram, but could not with the monero full client. Is the dev team still active ? How come this has not ported to monero ?
I think a more interesting question is 'How long did it take?' I got my node synced from scratch in about 3 hours. Assuming you have an SSD, sync time should be almost completely dominated by your internet connection and the peer(s) you happen to connect to. On my machine actual chain processing only takes around 11 minutes IIRC. |
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This was a very helpful graph in understanding bitcoin address basics. Does anyone know of anything like this for Monero addresses?  OT: Note that this is for uncompressed pub keys. Compressed ones start with 0x02 or 0x03 instead of 0x04, and are 32 bytes long instead of 64. Well they're 33 and 65 bytes if you include the prefix. |
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Isn't a private key way longer than an address?
This is probably wrong, but my though process:
No of bitcoin addresses = X^length
length = 32
x is no of characters. Since you have alphabet + capitals + numbers i would say X = 62.
It has to start with either a 1 or a 3 though, so 2 * 62^31, right?
The reason bitcoin addresses are short is they are hash of an ECC public key. In order to sign a transaction you have to provide with your signature, the full (longer) public key, which is first checked to hash to the address, before being used for verification. But Monero address aren't directly comparable to Bitcoin addresses in another way. There is an extra step in the handling of stealth addresses that uses the address (public key) to create a new one-time key pair each time it is used. Only the one-time public key goes on the blockchain, not the address itself. That's why it is said that payments are unlinkable: no one can tell by looking at the blockchain the address that was used. One-time keypairs essentially means there's something like 2^256 possible "addresses", irrespective of how many spend/view key combinations there are (though there'd be loads of collisions long before that). I know this is a repeat question, but it is frustrating that I can't find an easy Google answer to it.
How many Monero addresses are possible vs. bitcoin? Bitcoin has 2^160 possible private keys, right? How many does Monero have (I would assume more because the Monero addresses I see are much longer). 2^???
There's something like 2^256 private keys (almost all integers are valid), but only 2^160 public addresses. Edit: well I guess 2^160 more p2sh addresses, so 2^161 total? |
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The full keys (spend + view) are 512 bits long. With a deterministic wallet the view key is a hash of the spend key so only the spend key is undetermined -- 256 bits. The short mnemonic versions use a 128 bits seed.
Any of these is sufficiently secure for practical purposes.
This was a very helpful graph in understanding bitcoin address basics. Does anyone know of anything like this for Monero addresses? Hmm, I can create one of these easily. If only I liked creating graphics... |
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I'll disagree with that though, it possibly could work on a 486 DX2 66.
I have a distinct lack of 486s in my life;) My first PC was a 486DX/33, thats how old I am. Mine was a Commodore 64, and then I learnt to program an 8086 with GW-BASIC. I guess I got into computers a lot later than you, I guess i was around 12 or 13 so back in 1990 or 1991. Yourself? Mid-80s, my earliest actual computer memories (not those imagined from looking at old photos) are probably 1987 on a 286 (everything I was given was hand-me-downs so I could break them, lol) using programming books from the library and modifying things to work on GW-BASIC (and later QuickBasic / QBasic / PowerBasic) How old were you when you got your first hand me down and started playing with it? I was 5 or 6 I think. But, then, I'm younger than you guys. |
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SDC>XMR
\thread
Please elaborate. Where do I begin? lets see...SDC has been increasing in price constantly overtime while XMR is declining since it was first launched. That is false, both have fluctuated up and down. SDC traded early at a peak 38K sat, traded several months later at 15K, had a recent high of about 80K, and is now about about 55K. Likewise XMR traded early at a peak of 1m sats, for a long time at around 100K, peaked back at 400K and is now around 200K SDC has been on first page of trex for as long as I can remember while XMR doesn't want to leave last page
SDC main exchange is Bittrex, XMR main exchange is Polo. Their relative positions are reversed on the other exchange. XMR was at 0.004 now (launch) now it's at 0.0019 that's not fluctuation rather free fall No, it was at 188K (not 400K, although it did get added to Poloniex at 346K) when it was first listed on Bittrex, and that is not the same as launch. It traded as OTC and on the small cryptonote.to exchange for a while before polo. The prices for that (starting at 50K and as low as 20K) can be seen here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=578192.0As I said, both coins had ups and downs. If you bought SDC at 38K early on, you're up a little now, but you had some tough times when it languished at around 15-20K for quite a while. Also, the histories are not really comparable because when XMR traded at 50k or 20k or 188k or 346K, the nature of mining and gradual distribution is such that there were very few coins even in existence at the time. So very few of the coins in todays investors' holdings could possibly have traded at those prices, it is literally impossible. The majority of currently-outstanding coins were probably mined when prices were around 100k-200k, and have only ever traded in the range of 100k-400k, although someone could actually calculate that I suppose. I'm nearly 100% certain I made the first sale on Polo; here is my trading history for part of that day. After the typical high orders of new markets, prices were just above 0.001. I was extremely surprised when they rose so much over the coming weeks, as they'd been trading in that lower range for a while on the other exchange.  |
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