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761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 19, 2014, 09:39:52 PM
Hi erok, did you hear Darkcoin solved the anonymous internets? It's anonymous and he added trustless on top of it!

that's a lie, it's not trustless

lol, way to fall for the (reverse) trolling.
762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 19, 2014, 06:11:21 PM

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Utilizing the Masternode network - DarkTor

One of the future goals is to turn the masternode network into a decentralized business for masternode operators. To do this we’ll add features that improve the privacy of end users and compete with centralized businesses. Our first endeavor into this is to make a completely private tor network within Darkcoin.

The Darkcoin network will begin to offer anonymous internet access via the masternode network. As a user, all you’ll have to do is pay a fee for 24 hours of access. This fee will be paid to a masternode in much the same way the masternode fees are paid, using a deterministic algorithm for determining which masternode will get paid.

There’s a few benefits to running a private tor network through Darkcoin.

    Sybil resistant - Due to the cost of obtaining masternodes, it will be very difficult for any one person to view all traffic.
    Anonymous Payments - Users can pay anonymously for the service
    Private Network - Our tor network will be internal to darkcoin only. All traffic will be paid traffic, so the cost of running the service should be profitable for the masternode operators.
    Faster than tor - Tor has historically been very slow. This will be a lean version, that has much higher throughput.


As for the cost of the service we’re thinking $0.50 per day or something to that effect.

We’re still working on the details how this will function and this isn’t a feature that we’re absolutely set on. We’re very interested to get the community’s response to see if it’s viable .

I think I just shit my pants.
I feel like I am taking crazy pills here. This is an update saying that they found some bugs and they are setting up their own "faster" tor network. This is all just words. Right? Am I crazy? "we’ll add features that improve the privacy of end users" aren't you already the "first anonymous coin"? Do you need to be more anonymous than anonymous? unless... you weren't really anonymous.... and how will you handle exit nodes?

This is talking about more than a coin. The coin transfers can be anonymous, but that is apples to oranges compared to building business(es) on top.
763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 19, 2014, 04:24:36 AM

In a parallel world: Drk would be open source, AA would be singing its praises, KA confirms strong anonymity, a material chunk of the Btc community abandons Btc in favour of Drk, people forgive and forget the large mining at start and markets spring up around Drk that a copy cat clone can't replicate quickly enough.


Ozziecoin,

At this time, i dont see what can do open source for DRK. (RC4, RC5 .....)

I have a question, if DRK open source, do you use it for Ozziecoin ?

I dont tel its good or bad, just want to know.
Firstly, Drk forked from Ltc which is a fork of Btc. And under the licensing, all developments on top of the code must be open source.

I could have chosen Ltc or Drk - didn't make much difference but I thought privacy is important, so selected Drk.

Drk then closed source the code, which is why it is in trouble. Us using Drk or some other privacy tech is fine. When Dark Wallet is released, we can easily switch to that.

The primary purpose of Ozziecoin is not to make money. It is to build a viable future currency for Aussies. We are not interested in Drk's core market.

Regardless of what we do, Drk must stand on it's own feet. If a secondary coin can steal the number one position then there is something wrong with Drk.

Ltc could never come within 10% of Btc's marketcap. Drk being afraid of us is a joke. Drk should do right by the community, the licensing agreement and its investors.

This is not actually true:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litecoin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License

With that said, I'm in favor of open source sooner rather than later. I don't see much risk in any clones taking off, but there's a slight chance I guess.
764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 19, 2014, 03:50:14 AM
K Atlas comments on DRK prices
(from FB) ....>>

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
FINALLY, about 2 days too late.

Edit: I just checked Kristov's twitter feed and realise the above is a BS post.

It's on Facebook?

YES
he posted that on a question regarding DRK prices
in Crypto currency collectors club
Why didn't he tweet it and release his review?!? Unbelievable.

https://www.facebook.com/jamie.redman.374/posts/1456311001299910?comment_id=1456449717952705&offset=0&total_comments=12&notif_t=feed_comment_reply
That's just sad. If he has done the review, he should have released it.

Maybe he's not done with it yet? Relax, man.
765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 19, 2014, 03:28:33 AM
K Atlas comments on DRK prices
(from FB) ....>>

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
FINALLY, about 2 days too late.

Edit: I just checked Kristov's twitter feed and realise the above is a BS post.

It's on Facebook?
766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 19, 2014, 03:27:52 AM
I like this decreasing amount of MN for now. Today I got my MN payments record so far Smiley not in quantity of coins but in voting quantity. Cool.
Evan Duffield what are the news we are all hungry of your words.

Well I'm going to increase the masternode count.  I figure the best way to know if things are working is if I get down in the trenches myself.  I can't rely on the information from this thread or the other darkcoin thread.  So I'm going to have a look see for myself.  Setting up a masternode in the next 24 hours.  Here's my coins:

 


I figure what the heck.  I made enough off of drk today for a couple masternodes  but one is enough for now.  Can't wait to see my first payments start rolling in.  Now should be a good time to get in.  Less masternodes = more drk for each one.  Is that correct?

Edit:

Going to anonymize my coins now.

 





You can absolutely anonymize your MN money, but you'll have to send it in full 1000 to a new address (or same, but that wouldn't be anonymous at all) to run the thing. Good luck.
767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 18, 2014, 11:12:28 PM
so is this savale scam?Huh

No scam, they tried very hard.

Here is a challenge to DRKcoin. Let the same auditors look at DRKcoin anon system and report on it. Will you accept the challenge?

Good point. DRK uses nodes too right?  


Besides all this I think people start to realize they panic sold their Cloaks way too quick.  I mean, look at the other Anon coins.... are they trustless?  No.  Are the DRK and XC devs being honest and open about that? No.

So I am happy that I still own my Cloak, because I prefer honesty and decentralization above faults that are being hidden...

Cloak will come out on top because of this.

Honesty and not sweeping bad news under the rug, thats the way to do it.

Once Dagger gets this done, and he will, Cloak is going back to the top.

Let's be honest here, CLOAK was never at the top.

Luigii!  Cheesy  Why arent you over on DRKcoin drinking the kool-aid and lying to yourself with the rest of the fanatics?

Maybe you had to jump ship and swim over to cloakcoin?? eh??

Also do you think Evan would accept the challenge of getting audited by same auditors as cloak?

1. When have I been a fanatic?
2. Who audited Cloak? If it's someone(s) with some credentials, I don't see why not. I'd rather just see open source though. It's been long enough (or close).

1. You must be a fanatic because you troll here constantly.  Shocked

2. Great! I will ask Dagger to contact you, although I know he is very busy ATM. I would really love to hear the outcome of an audit by this team of DRKcoin anon.



1. How many posts have I made here? I'm not sure, but I'd guess less than 10. Could you please point me to my posts that were troll-ish?
2. I would not be the one to contact as far as an audit. I have no relation to DRK beyond being a small holder.
768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 18, 2014, 09:07:43 PM
After predicting the DRK price implosion just weeks ago (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg8073765#msg8073765), I have another prediction to make. I take no pleasure in saying this but I hope that those who didn't take my advice before will listen this time and save themselves some money. DRK will never again approach its previous price. The reason is that it does not provide an attractive practical solution for those who seek anonymity (relative to BTC used in conjunction with mixers). Even if it does function perfectly on a technical level, the fact remains that moving BTC into DRK generally requires dealing with an exchange that will be forced to compromise privacy as the result of increased regulations. And once you have your DRK, where are you going to spend it? There is no DRK ecosystem to speak of. BTC has hundreds of millions being invested into an infrastructure to stimulate mass adoption. If you truly wanted to be anonymous, wouldn't you want to be lost in the crowd along with regular consumers as opposed to being potentially linked to a currency inadvertently branded as the go-to solution for drug dealers, paedophiles, and tax-dodgers? In front of a jury, what's more incriminating: evidence that you had a BTC wallet on your computer like everybody else including your aunt Bertha...or that you had a sinisterly-named DarkCoin Wallet on there? I would short DRK if I knew how but I have zero skin in the game. Save yourself some serious grief and at the very least don't dump more of your hard-earned money into this.

Your concerns are certainly not without merit. I won't address your price prediction as illiquid crypto markets don't operate on LT outlook, but on short term hype and despair cycles almost solely controlled by large holders.

As to the rest of your remarks, I can only caution that none of us can be certain how all of this will turn out. Your post is very similar to those made about bitcoin itself only a year ago, and those criticisms still apply for the vast majority of people outside the BTC bubble.

With regard to converting between coins, I expect functional decentralized exchanges to minimize the need to rely on regulated, centralized entities. There are more than a few already close to offering real world utility.

Everything going on now is experimental and speculative, and to be sure, most projects will completely fail. This game certainly isn’t for the faint of heart, and no one should bet the farm on any one outcome, but there continues to be an incredible amount of money to be made while all of this plays out. I personally believe DRK still has a role to play, but to each his own.


I'll concede to your point about the emergence of decentralized unregulated exchanges. At the same time however, decentralized anonymous BTC mixers can't be far behind.

How do you propose they go about doing this? What incentive would there be to running a mixer? How do you know there's not collusion between the several (or however many) that are running? There's no barrier to entry, but no incentive either, meaning it wouldn't be much of a stretch to imagine the nodes being controlled by people who have an interest in de-anonymizing you.
769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 18, 2014, 07:19:01 PM
so is this savale scam?Huh

No scam, they tried very hard.

Here is a challenge to DRKcoin. Let the same auditors look at DRKcoin anon system and report on it. Will you accept the challenge?

Good point. DRK uses nodes too right?  


Besides all this I think people start to realize they panic sold their Cloaks way too quick.  I mean, look at the other Anon coins.... are they trustless?  No.  Are the DRK and XC devs being honest and open about that? No.

So I am happy that I still own my Cloak, because I prefer honesty and decentralization above faults that are being hidden...

Cloak will come out on top because of this.

Honesty and not sweeping bad news under the rug, thats the way to do it.

Once Dagger gets this done, and he will, Cloak is going back to the top.

Let's be honest here, CLOAK was never at the top.

Luigii!  Cheesy  Why arent you over on DRKcoin drinking the kool-aid and lying to yourself with the rest of the fanatics?

Maybe you had to jump ship and swim over to cloakcoin?? eh??

Also do you think Evan would accept the challenge of getting audited by same auditors as cloak?

1. When have I been a fanatic?
2. Who audited Cloak? If it's someone(s) with some credentials, I don't see why not. I'd rather just see open source though. It's been long enough (or close).
770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA on: August 18, 2014, 07:03:24 PM
so is this savale scam?Huh

No scam, they tried very hard.

Here is a challenge to DRKcoin. Let the same auditors look at DRKcoin anon system and report on it. Will you accept the challenge?

Good point. DRK uses nodes too right?  


Besides all this I think people start to realize they panic sold their Cloaks way too quick.  I mean, look at the other Anon coins.... are they trustless?  No.  Are the DRK and XC devs being honest and open about that? No.

So I am happy that I still own my Cloak, because I prefer honesty and decentralization above faults that are being hidden...

Cloak will come out on top because of this.

Honesty and not sweeping bad news under the rug, thats the way to do it.

Once Dagger gets this done, and he will, Cloak is going back to the top.

Let's be honest here, CLOAK was never at the top.
771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 18, 2014, 04:50:30 PM
WTS:

Kidney x 1. Good working order, despite the vodka and brandy last night.

Pint of blood every two weeks for the next 12 months.

DRK only offers. pm for details. Sorry, no escrow.

ROFL, best offer yet!
772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Should the DRK ANN become moderated? on: August 18, 2014, 03:25:06 PM
DRK is the #1 altcoin thread far and away presently. Might as well leave it just because.  Cool
773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LOGICOIN [LOGIC] X11 PoW | Android Wallet | Merchant Friendly | No Premine on: August 18, 2014, 04:57:59 AM
Wink he wants to get in again Wink

lol. I'm stuck with my coins at this point.

wait how long has dev been gone? a month? haha christ...

look at this for entertainment: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/lgc/address.dws?59594.htm

Also there's 5 wallets with 200k even. I'm a small timer now.
774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 15, 2014, 03:14:39 PM
Looks like Darkcoin may be the first coin with practical anonymity(that can be used in everyday situations). Very good!

I cannot say this. Please explain "practical" please, as many coins offer this now. I think cloakcoin was the first and then xc, and shadowcoin. so unless you can explain, then your comment is mislead.

This is complete garbage. In no way was Cloak "the first".

775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 15, 2014, 02:55:13 PM
We are under 0.007. We are heading to 0.001. That's great !   Angry

Dude.
1. Shut your computer down and return in two weeks like you said you were going to.
2. Enjoy (mostly) stress-free life.

luigi1111 = bagholder.

save yourself, sell all now and reinvest at the bottom..


This has nothing to do with me.

It has everything to do with Terzo's post history. He been making extremely short, mostly nonsensical posts for months.
776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 15, 2014, 02:10:20 PM
We are under 0.007. We are heading to 0.001. That's great !   Angry

Dude.
1. Shut your computer down and return in two weeks like you said you were going to.
2. Enjoy (mostly) stress-free life.
777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 15, 2014, 01:44:12 PM
After installing .29 and doing salvagewallet all my wallet addresses are gone. My wallet shows only one address for receiving DRK. On transactions it shows only the address in brackets but no names anymore. Can I still receive DRK on these addresses or do I have to use new addresses at pools, exchanges etc.?

I had 63 transactions of denomination and payments to myself with a total of 0.066 DRK for anonymizing 17 DRK! I have disabled DS for now.

Why are you guys using salvagewallet ?  Leave denomination process alone after starting and be more patiant before doing something bad and than blaming
RC4 is not working. I had no problems on testnet.


Because of:
If you have a long standing unconfirmed transaction, simply right click the transaction, copy the txid. Then execute the command "erasetransaction txid" in the console. After that reopen the client with the command -salvagewallet, and the money should be back.

I have left denomination process alone for 24 hours and had the problems reported above.

I've had coins in a wallet denomynizing since last night and the only thing I can see that has happened is .001 drk has been deducted from my total.  No coins are shown as Anonymized.  

How long is this supposed to take?  It's less than 50 coins.  Why is drk being deducted when nothing has been anonymized?



How many rounds do you have chosen? Something is wonky with rounds > 1.


1 round is all.  I had already read to use 1 round.  

Nothing is happening except for .001 being taken from me.  

How can we believe you ? You have obviously a bias against DRK.

Just let it go. He's being quite cordial this time around.

Edit: shojayxt, screenshots could be useful. There might also be useful info in your debug log.
778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 15, 2014, 01:43:40 PM
After installing .29 and doing salvagewallet all my wallet addresses are gone. My wallet shows only one address for receiving DRK. On transactions it shows only the address in brackets but no names anymore. Can I still receive DRK on these addresses or do I have to use new addresses at pools, exchanges etc.?

I had 63 transactions of denomination and payments to myself with a total of 0.066 DRK for anonymizing 17 DRK! I have disabled DS for now.

Why are you guys using salvagewallet ?  Leave denomination process alone after starting and be more patiant before doing something bad and than blaming
RC4 is not working. I had no problems on testnet.


Because of:
If you have a long standing unconfirmed transaction, simply right click the transaction, copy the txid. Then execute the command "erasetransaction txid" in the console. After that reopen the client with the command -salvagewallet, and the money should be back.

I have left denomination process alone for 24 hours and had the problems reported above.

I've had coins in a wallet denomynizing since last night and the only thing I can see that has happened is .001 drk has been deducted from my total.  No coins are shown as Anonymized.  

How long is this supposed to take?  It's less than 50 coins.  Why is drk being deducted when nothing has been anonymized?



How many rounds do you have chosen? Something is wonky with rounds > 1.


1 round is all.  I had already read to use 1 round.  

Nothing is happening except for .001 being taken from me.  

Hmm, I haven't tried it yet myself. Have you left the wallet open this entire time? Seems like it's hung somehow. Perhaps restart the wallet? Send all coins to a new address and try again?

There should be more people here who can help, perhaps they are sleeping presently.  Wink
779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 15, 2014, 01:30:57 PM
I think market is waiting for clear statement: "RC4 is working without any problem" ...after that price will go up Smiley People are afraid of new failure after failed forks.

RC4 was no fork, so not much space for failure Smiley

This. I don't think many people realized there was no fork. Masternode code changed, and thereby clients only pay nodes they can see, but it doesn't matter because payments aren't enforced.f The rest is mostly TX logic, which doesn't require a hardfork.
780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | DarkSend+ Is Live! on: August 15, 2014, 01:27:46 PM
After installing .29 and doing salvagewallet all my wallet addresses are gone. My wallet shows only one address for receiving DRK. On transactions it shows only the address in brackets but no names anymore. Can I still receive DRK on these addresses or do I have to use new addresses at pools, exchanges etc.?

I had 63 transactions of denomination and payments to myself with a total of 0.066 DRK for anonymizing 17 DRK! I have disabled DS for now.

Why are you guys using salvagewallet ?  Leave denomination process alone after starting and be more patiant before doing something bad and than blaming
RC4 is not working. I had no problems on testnet.


Because of:
If you have a long standing unconfirmed transaction, simply right click the transaction, copy the txid. Then execute the command "erasetransaction txid" in the console. After that reopen the client with the command -salvagewallet, and the money should be back.

I have left denomination process alone for 24 hours and had the problems reported above.

I've had coins in a wallet denomynizing since last night and the only thing I can see that has happened is .001 drk has been deducted from my total.  No coins are shown as Anonymized.  

How long is this supposed to take?  It's less than 50 coins.  Why is drk being deducted when nothing has been anonymized?



How many rounds do you have chosen? Something is wonky with rounds > 1.
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