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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: July 04, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
when can I get my incent bonus for ETT?

You already asked and got the answer on Slack. Why ask again here?

I asked incent team for eta of incent bonus for ETT on slack And received no response. Did the ama even happen? Incent seems to be in dark hours...no communication, no monthly report (who wants to hear more of this debacle I guess)

...so when ama?

Yes, I understand. A few days ago I posted this on Slack:
@channel As you will appreciate, we need to make some significant decisions at Incent. We need to reschedule the AMA a little while so we can give you a clearer picture of how things will move forward. Apologies for the late notice, but we'll be in touch.

Rob is lining up a radio interview with Lootz, timing tbc.
342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: July 01, 2017, 10:51:33 AM
when can I get my incent bonus for ETT?

You already asked and got the answer on Slack. Why ask again here?
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 30, 2017, 07:55:34 AM
For a period instead of hosting other ICO campaigns it is more good to concentrate on development to build a solid and flawless platform. You shouldn't do things in hurry when there is involvement of millions of dollars investment. I hope you have learnt a lot from last three hosted ICO campaigns.

We have indeed learned a lot Smiley There are some decisions to take about the best way to move forwards and I hope you'll appreciate that although they need to be made asap, they cannot be rushed. We'll line up another AMA as soon as we can.
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 28, 2017, 11:39:40 AM
Incent AMA: 0900 AEST Friday 30 June

Recent events surrounding the hack of ETT tokens and the ongoing resolution to this situation have naturally raised many questions in the minds of Incent investors, as well as for the EncryptoTel community. We’d like to address those in an AMA (Ask Me Anything) session, to be held on the Incent Slack.

Please join the #ama-questions channel. If you are not yet a member of the Incent Slack, you can join at https://incentinvites.herokuapp.com/

The AMA will start at 0900 AEST on Friday. (You can find the correct time for your location using this tool: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html). We look forward to seeing you there.

UPDATE: The AMA is being postponed. As the community will appreciate, there are some ongoing issues that are being taken care of and we want to make sure we can give you clear answers to your questions. We will reschedule. In the meantime, thank you for your patience.
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 27, 2017, 01:54:09 PM
Lots of people naturally have questions about this. We'll hold an AMA on our Slack about this at the weekend.

When is AMA session? I'd like to know more about this.

For now it looks to me that it was a stupid mistake of Incent developers and that it really questions their qualification and understanding of security and cryptography basics.

Will Incent publicly apologize to the EncryptoTel community, and accept full responsibility including financial damages? Although I hope there are no serious financial damages, because the hacker has returned the 38 million stolen ETH ETT tokens, according to EncryptoTel.

It will probably be at the weekend, but timing tba - depends on the Australia team and to a certain extent what timing works best across our Slack community.
And yes, the cause was straightforward human error. You can expect further statements about this from Incent in due course.
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 27, 2017, 01:22:57 PM
Bad news for Incent:

https://medium.com/@encryptotel/an-important-update-4-9c1deb80001b

EncryptoTel state that Incent's BlockSwap product was hacked and the blame is on Incent:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8k5x6THP0p7dFNSV2s4YmI4OVk/view

I think it doesn't make sense to hold Incent any longer...

Lots of people naturally have questions about this. We'll hold an AMA on our Slack about this at the weekend.
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 27, 2017, 12:58:03 PM
I didnt get my 0.5% bonus incent from Encryptotel buy until now.
ETT was hacked because INCENT made great fault.
This project is so damn bad and fucked up.

3% bonus. Did you get it yet?

I also got no incent bonus until now from the ETT buy.
Is there a chance to get the bonus? Or can we forget about that because of the break from the ETT team after the totally messed ICO?


That decision is going to have to remain with ETT - as far as Incent are concerned it's still on though. It is a question of who completes distribution now.

Incent was not able to complete the distribution in more than 2 weeks (or was it 3 weeks) and now you still want to complete it?
In which way do you think, you can do this better than in the last weeks?
So I think it would be better if ETT completes the distribution by itself before we wait another month and it still isn't completed. Wink
So maybe better you keep your promised bonus and get your shitty ICO software to run without all the bugs and problems for the next ICO (if someone really is crackbrained enough to do an ICO again with your software after this mess).


You misunderstand. EncryptoTel has been distributing tokens up to this point, based on information provided by Incent. What tokens are distributed (i.e. Incent) is down to who is doing the distribution. I am not sure a decision has yet been taken on either question - that is what I meant.
If you would like to donate your tokens back to Incent, I can provide you with an address. Thank you for the offer.
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 27, 2017, 11:09:39 AM
I didnt get my 0.5% bonus incent from Encryptotel buy until now.
ETT was hacked because INCENT made great fault.
This project is so damn bad and fucked up.

3% bonus. Did you get it yet?

I also got no incent bonus until now from the ETT buy.
Is there a chance to get the bonus? Or can we forget about that because of the break from the ETT team after the totally messed ICO?


That decision is going to have to remain with ETT - as far as Incent are concerned it's still on though. It is a question of who completes distribution now.
349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 27, 2017, 07:38:54 AM
I didnt get my 0.5% bonus incent from Encryptotel buy until now.
ETT was hacked because INCENT made great fault.
This project is so damn bad and fucked up.

3% bonus. Did you get it yet?
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 26, 2017, 06:29:56 PM
I went into my wallet waves and my incent tokens were not there, can the tokens of ico still be sent to another address? Grateful

Er, that depends whether you've already received them and they've been moved out of your Waves account, or whether you never received them after the ICO.
Best swing by Slack and we'll get it straightened out. If you've not yet withdrawn them then we can arrange that. If you have, well, that gets a bit trickier...
.                           When I created my wallet waves for sending the incent tokens the address of the wallet was this: 1W3P4T6vrQ4daUAJXuDfh3YVySccCcfbNZsoh. A few days ago when I went back into the wallet waves to remove my tokens incent the address was now this: 3P4T6vrQ4daUAJXuDfh3YVySccCcfbNZsoh removed the 1W from the beginning of the address and not warned now I can not access my tokens if they can help very grateful

Your Incent tokens are right there in that account: http://www.wavesgo.com/account.html?3P4T6vrQ4daUAJXuDfh3YVySccCcfbNZsoh
You won't be able to move them, though, because you don't have any WAVES to pay transaction fees. You can pick up some (you only need a small amount) from Bittrex.
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 26, 2017, 04:19:00 PM
I went into my wallet waves and my incent tokens were not there, can the tokens of ico still be sent to another address? Grateful

Er, that depends whether you've already received them and they've been moved out of your Waves account, or whether you never received them after the ICO.
Best swing by Slack and we'll get it straightened out. If you've not yet withdrawn them then we can arrange that. If you have, well, that gets a bit trickier...
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 26, 2017, 02:46:24 PM
I was just wondering if there are already any company's using this system?

Also how can we as customers begin using this system??

On the website I can not find any information about this.

Thanks in advance.



Thanks for your interest. We're not quite there yet - still developing the software and infrastructure. If you'd like to join our Slack you're welcome and we can discuss further what kind of application you're looking at (if that's what you mean), or otherwise where we're heading. There should also be another one of our monthly updates in the next week or two.
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B [Suspicious link removed]munications infrastructure on: June 25, 2017, 06:39:12 PM

The project is a dummy. With what do you want to work? You will be crushed. A shame. Why fool the people? Such a decision already exists as 10 years, what did you want to surprise? You need to turn on the brains and turn to the professionals.

https://medium.com/@vadiman/crypviser-vs-encryptotel-no-way-nothing-to-compare-76e78a0a6ec


This article isn't worth the reading time. It tries to suggest EncryptoTel were shotgunned into a decision to ICO and plagiarised another project. No acknowledgement that the team, who met whilst working for a telecoms company on PBX projects, has been working on their solution for years. Perhaps they think the beta was also produced in a week too?
In my experience, it's the projects that try to claim that they're better than others that have something to prove. The ones that are secure in what they're doing just get on and do it. Make a comparison between tech if you need to, for the purposes of differentiation: fine. But when it gets personal and accusatory, I rapidly lose respect.

Well, but the fact is obvious? Or is it not? clarify please



Not to me:

Please provide a url to a secure voip platform that allows businesses to launch ippbx networks in a few clicks and protect their privacy with crypto payments.

The platform, which speaks loudly about the protection, was hacked. Is it worth it to trust her?

Firstly, we don't know what happened, so I'd advise you don't jump to any conclusions just yet. Secondly, there's a huge difference between a person/account being hacked and a platform being hacked. Conflating the two is lazy thinking, akin to saying that because the CEO of VW crashed his car, it's not safe to drive a VW. It's not like The DAO and it doesn't indicate a systemic risk.

I get you're into Crypviser. Great, good for you, I don't know anything about it but I hope it's a good platform and does well. But don't fall into the trap of assuming that one platform has to fail for another to do well. That's rather narrow zero-sum thinking, which is pretty ridiculous when applied to crypto at this stage in its life.
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B [Suspicious link removed]munications infrastructure on: June 25, 2017, 05:26:11 PM
Thanks Roman.
Knowing something of the team, as well as having a significant stake in EncryptoTel, my anxiety levels over this about their ability to address this and deliver the promised solution are... precisely zero.
There's lots of screaming in here. I wonder how many people ever took the opportunity to do any due diligence, look at track records, learn about the project and its team and find out what it was really all about. Wonder how many read the white paper, let alone the T&Cs. The ones that did, you don't find shouting in here.
My guess is that a few weeks after this is addressed - and it will be addressed - these initial troubles will be forgotten as they deliver new iterations of a really cool product. I've seen it time and again in crypto. Nothing runs to plan, ever, and sometimes it gets really bad. And then the wheel turns and things move on.


Nice words here.
If people read the whitepaper, they will never post any shit here. If they know how good is this project idea, they won't be mad. Why invest your money if you need it back hurrying?
Look at another project that ends this month, most of them are delayed too. Excudo, minexcoin. Even mgo is done with distribution, they can't trade the token in exchanges because of the problem of dual-chain.
Keep support, and let them solve all the problem and you'll see good news on next announcement.


Look sober. Do you think that the idea is new? It is already being sold on the market. Guys get lost. In vain came, if there is no strength.
I hope that it will be good, although the chances are very small

Please provide a url to a secure voip platform that allows businesses to launch ippbx networks in a few clicks and protect their privacy with crypto payments.
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B [Suspicious link removed]munications infrastructure on: June 25, 2017, 05:10:46 PM

The project is a dummy. With what do you want to work? You will be crushed. A shame. Why fool the people? Such a decision already exists as 10 years, what did you want to surprise? You need to turn on the brains and turn to the professionals.

https://medium.com/@vadiman/crypviser-vs-encryptotel-no-way-nothing-to-compare-76e78a0a6ec


This article isn't worth the reading time. It tries to suggest EncryptoTel were shotgunned into a decision to ICO and plagiarised another project. No acknowledgement that the team, who met whilst working for a telecoms company on PBX projects, has been working on their solution for years. Perhaps they think the beta was also produced in a week too?
In my experience, it's the projects that try to claim that they're better than others that have something to prove. The ones that are secure in what they're doing just get on and do it. Make a comparison between tech if you need to, for the purposes of differentiation: fine. But when it gets personal and accusatory, I rapidly lose respect.
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: June 25, 2017, 04:43:45 PM
Thanks Roman.
Knowing something of the team, as well as having a significant stake in EncryptoTel, my anxiety levels over this about their ability to address this and deliver the promised solution are... precisely zero.
There's lots of screaming in here. I wonder how many people ever took the opportunity to do any due diligence, look at track records, learn about the project and its team and find out what it was really all about. Wonder how many read the white paper, let alone the T&Cs. The ones that did, you don't find shouting in here.
My guess is that a few weeks after this is addressed - and it will be addressed - these initial troubles will be forgotten as they deliver new iterations of a really cool product. I've seen it time and again in crypto. Nothing runs to plan, ever, and sometimes it gets really bad. And then the wheel turns and things move on.
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 25, 2017, 06:22:09 AM
What is the funding status of this coin? funds remaining from ICO?

We've done pretty well out of Waves. Collected 1.1m at ICO, still untouched. So the funding position is better than at the start.
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 24, 2017, 06:44:19 AM
Incent product blockswap and ett got hacked.
Yesterday, late in the evening Moscow time, our BlockSwap service was attacked and ultimately hacked. The amount of losses is a staggering 38.5 million ETT tokens from the Ethereum chain and a further 3.8 million ETT Waves tokens.

I'm out of this shit. You had your Chance and did IT wrong.

BlockSwap wasn't hacked. It appears they were accessed from the server EncryptoTel is using for BlockSwap. Both parties are still working to find how it happened.
But feel free to let the door hit you on the way out.
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INCNT] Incent Loyalty | Waves Token | Traded on Bittrex | Roll-out 2017 on: June 23, 2017, 10:01:07 PM
Alright I was actually considering selling until I read this last page of thread with all the updates and good talks and positive expectations from the community at large, I guess I have reconsidered and shall hold my INCNT stash. 

Was getting worried that this trickling decline as the days passed by was the beginning of some serious decline in price.

Well, we can't control what the markets do but Incent itself is pointing in the right direction. We've just expanded the team quite a bit to give extra capacity for both software and business dev. The app UI is in its early stages but looking nice. ICOtech has certainly given us a few surprises but honing this will enable us to plug in merchants for real-time issuance, probably from the same engine. So we're optimistic Smiley

Cassius, would it be realistic to expect, one day, that the price of each INCNT reach $2/Ea or more in the future?  I mean I already see ICONOMI reach $5 and their current total available supply is 87 million tokens.  INCNT in the other hand has the advantage of being, at the moment, 23 million meaning that under INCNT a price increase should be much easier and if INCNT were to tie the marketcap of ICONOMI the price of each INCNT were $18.981 each which would be not bad.  Whats the likelihood for INCENT one day to have a marketcap in the same level as ICONOMI's today's market cap?

Realistically speaking how high do you see INCNT ever going in the future.

Incent is designed as a deflationary currency with external demand, so there's no meaningful maximum price. As it's used supply will effectively drop - or, in the very worst case, stay static - and it will keep being bought. I don't see $2 as unrealistic but equally, why $2? Why not $1 or $5?
The real question is the timescale, which is impossible to predict, especially when you superimpose speculative demand on real activity. But I would say that Incent and ICONOMI aren't a ready comparison, as they do totally different things in different sectors.
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRW] CROWN (SHA256) | NEW UPDATE! | Experimental Commodity | Trons | on: June 23, 2017, 11:49:50 AM
Like it. Running my Tron. Though it's not the most intuitive process getting set up, even with the existing documentation.

Glad you figured it out though. Could you give me some pointers on where the documentation could be improved?

A step-by-step guide for the n00b would be really helpful, since some of this is fairly obscure for the beginner.
Ask me nicely and I might even write one myself  Smiley

Edit: for example, I get myself a VPS but... what spec does it need to be? What should the port number be? And when I actually activate the Tron, it takes several goes and takes a while to register in the client - is there a way to check it's going? These are a few things I had to ask around and figure out, and it would have been pretty tough on my own trying to do all this from scratch.

Guide videos on this topic will be released soon, with very detailed info! But yif you want to write a text guide, you are very welcome Smiley

Sent it to info@crown.tech. Hope it's useful. Should be pretty comprehensive.
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