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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: nvidia 1060 mining hashrate on: July 20, 2016, 06:45:21 PM
In the other thread someone said 20MH/s and 22MH/s with overclock.

for ethereum? sure that might not be the 1070 specs?

for vertcoin (possibly a better return than ethereum), youd get about 30MH (=/-10%) of lyra2re i expect
342  Economy / Goods / Re: blue sapphire 3 carats, 4 carats on: July 20, 2016, 06:02:51 AM
I have access to amazing zircon here in Bangkok as we are very close to Cambodia.  In the northeast of Cambodia, Ratanakiri Province produces some of the world's finest zircon.  And no, zircon is not related in any way to "cubic zirconia" which is made in the lab.  Zircon is a natural stone that is mined from the earth.  This is an absolutely stunning 12-carat zircon that is Caribbean Sea Blue; this is the color of zircon that Cambodia is so famous for!




This material is available in a very wide range of sizes from stones under one carat to monsters of twenty carats or more.  Please inquire!

thats stunning - what does one do with such a large, deep stone?
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 16x Riser on: July 17, 2016, 03:11:00 AM
the 1x->16x usb riser is the best option, and sould work in 90%+ of motherboards

ps: avoid MSI mobos, particularly the "killer LAN" ones, as they require abnormal drivers tat are a PITA
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Need help please to choose GPU'S on: July 15, 2016, 05:49:02 PM
i cna get r9 290 cards for about $150, whereas the rx480 (with less hashrate) costs about $300. surely the 290 may be a better deal if I intend to mine for 1yr+?

what about nvidea cards? seems like a 750Ti (cheaper and less power hungry than the r9-290) can mine FTC at nearly the same $/GPU/day. would a rig of those be a better option?
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred/Siacoin GPU Miner v5.1 (Windows/Linux) on: July 15, 2016, 07:58:27 AM
If you have the Reference R9 290 you need to use the Stilt Bios because it will run like crap without it.

Search this forum for those bioses.



is that applicable to the reference sapphire 290 as well?
346  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Risers [Canada] on: July 11, 2016, 03:52:29 AM
bump, sold a few

how much for 3x powered risers, shipped to M6K2Z2? (toronto)?
347  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS - 49 GPU's - 380, 380x, Nano - BNIB RX-480's - US only on: July 11, 2016, 03:49:02 AM
US only? Im in Canada, would be interested in 5x 380X if you can do that for ~$700
348  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] BTC Garden AM V2 610GHs [US] 0.1 shipped on: July 10, 2016, 11:56:19 PM
Final bump before I strip it and scrap it.
-Dave

thats what i did to mine Sad  figured about $5 of scrap metal, and some abnormal 140mm fans that may be useful at another time. dont know if theres any market for the PCBs
349  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Universal Hash Board: Bitfury 28 nM "UHB_BM28NM" on: July 10, 2016, 05:55:44 PM

Here are my simple points why universal PCB can't work.
1) different power density. Just compare KnC or Spondoolies chips with BF, Bitmain or others. Two different ways of power density. SFARDS just in the middle. Different power density needs different PCB design and different heatsink design.

3) total output power. It is based on power density. We can see extremely increasing power density with the same case size in Bitmain's products beginning from Antminer S1 to Antminer S7 or S9. One single heatsink can't handle 700W on multiple chips. Even 300W is too much as we seen on S5 failure rate.

I dont think manufacturers will standardize a design anytime soon - by offering a full product their margins are probably improved

as for power density/draw, a universal heatsink isnt ideal but it is pretty sufficient. simply upgrading the fan/fanspeed could allow a +/- 50% power capacity.

The bigger issue is board layout, where all components were set to a specific maximum thickness in heatsinked areas (so that only critical parts (ASIC, regulators) are snug to heatsink and other components are not), and this could prove inconvenient to some layouts
350  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 09, 2016, 08:22:48 PM
LOL BTC3.2 for something that will never mine half that.

If you had %100 free electricity you could never ever ever come close to breaking even on this.


Except that we don't live in a static world.

Difficulty will decrease, price will rise, etc.

I've never regretted buying in early in the past, and expect this year to be no different.

wat?
WTF does difficulty or price have to do with anything?  If you have BTC3.2 and spend it on one of these miners you are turning BTC3.2 into some amount LESS than BTC3.2.  CASE CLOSED.
You cannot justify it by talking about difficulty or price or any other random event that have zero bearing on the math.  Buying one of these miners takes an amount of bitcoin and turns it into LESS bitcoin than what you started with.
WAKE UP PEOPLE.

Exactly. My S7s still did not earn the number of btc I paid for them, but it is getting close.
people are upset when this is mentioned, but hobbyists in part moved to the 'other' coin, where mining is not producing this much noise.
if your miner is in hosting, there is no 'connection' to it and almost no tinkering, making it less of a hobby, really.

agreed. it was bound to happen, but there was something magical about the days when expensive, low-consumption devices meant having >10kW of power draw meant you were a significant part of the network. My small DIY stack of S1 units at home at one point made up something like 0.0003% of the network and did quite well for themselves even at $0.12/kwh

each generation since has been geared towards power-and-ignore systems that you need dozens of, and cheap electricity for, to make much return. But with that has come the concept that mining hardware is a 2-4 year investment now that we have 14nm and underwent the halving. the easy money is gone
351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 09, 2016, 08:17:16 PM
Network seems to be humming along great, despite mining reward cut in half / inflation getting halved.

There was some FUD about it before the halving, but it seems to be ok, blocks are being found in normal time. It seems there has been no hashrate loss worthy of mention - apparently due to the much stronger price compared to the 250 and 400 levels.

I'm also looking at this: https://slushpool.com/stats/

It seems that yesterday hashrate was going in the 85-87 range, it did a small spike prior to halving, now it's in the 82-84 range (small drop was expected). So everything seems ok, network-wise and incentive-wise.

Next diff retarget in 9 days, it has some upward momentum right now due to the spiked hashrate pre-halving, but it might be corrected to "stabilize" over that period.

Maybe you can explain why changes in the hashrate matters so much, except merely perceptions?

If you look at bitcoin's hashrate, this network is likely closer to 100x more secure than it needs to be in order to prevent attacks and to protect value.  Yeah, if the price of coins goes up 100x, then that extra security will be a good thing, but at present prices, we got a lot of surplus mining power, so it really does not matter if half of them go away, except for nontechnical perceptions, such as public opinion, no?

changes in the hashrate can affect the block time, such as a drop in hashrate making blocks a bit less frequent (lets say 12minutes if ~15% of the network leaves). In turn, full blocks get fuller and transaction fees climb a little as teres more fighting for a spot. As the fees grow, so will the incentive to mine the block. today we see ~0.7BTC/block fees - wit 12min blocks we could see >1BTC in fees - an extra ~3% incentive to compensate. If things got particularly bad with ~15min blocks, fees could reach 1.5BTC, almost a 8% added mining incentive.

I dont see it causing a doomsday - but i do expect we will see some evidence of lower block frequency over the next 10-14 days until the next adjustment. beyond that point, difficulty will change and some miners will probably return.  I expect that a lot of major facilities have a $300-500/BTC production cost right now and will not change thier hashrate. only smaller home miners and older gear like S5/SP3X will leave


as for hashrate security - the halving will disincentive any major hashrate growth in the next few years unless/until the price rises considerably.
352  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: July 09, 2016, 08:04:42 PM
LOL BTC3.2 for something that will never mine half that.

If you had %100 free electricity you could never ever ever come close to breaking even on this.


Except that we don't live in a static world.

Difficulty will decrease, price will rise, etc.

I've never regretted buying in early in the past, and expect this year to be no different.

wat?
WTF does difficulty or price have to do with anything?  If you have BTC3.2 and spend it on one of these miners you are turning BTC3.2 into some amount LESS than BTC3.2.  CASE CLOSED.
You cannot justify it by talking about difficulty or price or any other random event that have zero bearing on the math.  Buying one of these miners takes an amount of bitcoin and turns it into LESS bitcoin than what you started with.
WAKE UP PEOPLE.

lets see your math. with 3%/jump difficulty rise (its a bit low to adjust for the fact we might see an initial 10-20% drop due to the halving) and power cost of $0.07/kwh it will take a little over two years to break even, and unless <11nm is produced by then the miner will be competitive with the newest-gen until ~2020, where difficulty will likely become fairly stable, mined by anyone paying <$0.06/kwh (all-in: power, rent,wages,etc). Any shift in price will likely have a similar equilibrium effect on hashrate/difficulty.

3.2BTC/13TH is a bad price at >2yrs breakeven. 2.8BTC/12TH is slightly more sensible (a bit less than 2yrs breakeven), but still high. Its likely we see prices fall further if/when a competitor gets to market and bitmain starts building more than they can sell. But if you had free power, both units could pay for themselves within a year, and produce over a bitcoin in profit during the second year.

tldr; if you pay <$0.05/kwh its arguably worth it. If you pay <$0.03/kwh you'd be silly not to be mining (perhaps with an S7)
353  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 24" 16awg PCIE-PCIE and PCIE leads, and 18awg M-F-M Splitters (6pin and 6+2pin) on: July 09, 2016, 07:51:52 PM
back to the top! custom orders welcome - if you need 5000pcs I'm the guy for you!
354  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: other uses for ASIC hardware? on: July 09, 2016, 07:50:50 PM
Can we resell those BeaconBone/Rasberry Pi found on the Antminer S1,S2,S3 & KNC Jupiter controllers?

Maybe they might get like $20 on eBay or something

its the older-gen Pi tho, so dont expect much when the Rpi3 is only $40. maybe $10-15 if you're lucky. but its great to convert to a node or some other micro-pc application. In fact, some units sold them with minimalistic controllers that lack ports and some features like audio/hdmi/etc and may have virtually no resale value as it would require being controlled almost entirely by ethernet/ssh
355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 09, 2016, 07:07:38 PM

And now on this, the worst fucking day of my life, just as I'm at my lowest and most fragile, you return to torment me some more? To rub your poisonous hatred into my wounds?
What kind of a heartless monster are you?

Yo... newbie... buy if u don't have!... Go all in!... Go full retarded! ... I don't see it coming back lower than 620-630$ .. that will likely never happen again in the history of BTCitcoin!

I think we will see it hit a low of ~$580 in a few day's time, when we can see how many miners dropped out and if there's any signs of the feared (and virtually impossible) "death spiral". If 20% leaves, blocks will get longer, fuller, and we will have more fee pressure as the miners look to replace the subsidy's lost value

Then sell ... put your money where your mouth is!!! ... I see it going to 700$+ in 1-2 days and never coming back to a 3 digit with the number 6 in front of it!

once we break 700, we would be in full bull market and id expect some serious rally in the next 6 months (perhaps less time, but we've been seeing a lot of sideways in the past year.

but i think we will fall below $600 on finex, though i expect it to be brief, quickly bouncing back into the $640 resistance. Theres likely to be some serious FUD in the next 72hrs about blocksize, fees, miners leaving, etc  that are just noise and a few whales throwing weight $600USD is about 4000CNY, and both will be a huge resistance/support level
356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 09, 2016, 06:58:31 PM

And now on this, the worst fucking day of my life, just as I'm at my lowest and most fragile, you return to torment me some more? To rub your poisonous hatred into my wounds?
What kind of a heartless monster are you?

Yo... newbie... buy if u don't have!... Go all in!... Go full retarded! ... I don't see it coming back lower than 620-630$ .. that will likely never happen again in the history of BTCitcoin!

I think we will see it hit a low of ~$580 in a few day's time, when we can see how many miners dropped out and if there's any signs of the feared (and virtually impossible) "death spiral". If 20% leaves, blocks will get longer, fuller, and we will have more fee pressure as the miners look to replace the subsidy's lost value

I plan to HODL because we are bullish longer term, and any halving crisis would simply be a bear trap. I closed my longs at $640 (from $625) and have a bunch of buys set up in the $580-610 range to catch the knife
357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 09, 2016, 05:46:18 PM
Just got margin called. Again. Worst day of my life.

that how margin trading works Smiley
358  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Rare extra-large Bitcoin Block from BTCC Mint, w/ 26+ BTC, NO RESERVE! on: July 09, 2016, 05:34:33 PM
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359  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Rare extra-large Bitcoin Block from BTCC Mint, w/ 26+ BTC, NO RESERVE! on: July 09, 2016, 04:52:04 PM
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FYI they have a block for sale on the site that has >26BTC

is it too hopeful to think they will auction 420,001? https://blockchain.info/en/block/000000000000000004db7eebf333b81f2529835102f7f7e86eca889287148885
360  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Rare extra-large Bitcoin Block from BTCC Mint, w/ 26+ BTC, NO RESERVE! on: July 09, 2016, 04:51:22 PM

just that site. actual coinbase was 12.51BTC
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