Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Hmm, sorta looking like 16nm production at TSMC is at full speed again no?  
Now the huge question is what the Typhon due to hit Taiwan in a couple days will do...

My b5 is showing as arriving Thurs but methinks will be the last one I get for a bit.
Then again, I said that, um, a couple weeks ago with the 2nd b3 I got  

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[HagssFIN]

Kind of crazy prices for the B6 and B7 when you consider the upcoming block reward halving..

[yslyung]

still overpriced. wait it out would be a wise choice. halving is too near for the pricing.

my B5 paid on 1st july & it's still stucked at chinese customs. grrrrr

Shenzhen, China   07/07/2016   12:17 A.M.   Export Scan
07/06/2016   1:30 A.M.   Your package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.
Shenzhen, China   07/05/2016   11:00 P.M.   Arrival Scan
07/05/2016   10:54 P.M.   Departure Scan
07/05/2016   8:00 P.M.   Origin Scan
07/05/2016   4:14 P.M.   Pickup Scan
China   07/05/2016   10:19 P.M.   Order Processed: Ready for UPS

[SilverHoldings]

Kind of crazy prices for the B6 and B7 when you consider the upcoming block reward halving..

Can't blame them for trying to get as many units out the door as possible. No way does anyone paying BTC for these recoup their investment at those prices.

[Sierra8561]

I'm I figuring this right? That would be 2:00 am mountain time in the US?

[Puffy23]

Physics disagrees with you, sir.

Okay then you explain it genius.

Are you simple?  You clearly don't understand how switched power supplies work.  Most modern power supplies can work on a range of AC input voltage from 100 to 240V, and yet they still produce a stable 12V DC output independent of AC voltage.  My server PSU's require 200+V, which I have measured 236V consistently at the plug.  Also, read my post from earlier:

As to the comment about AC wall voltage, read my case again and you will see that A) I had 9x S7's and 12x S5's hosted using the same AC power and B) that specific 4000W PSU was powering 1 other S7's and an S5, neither of which suffered from spontaneous self-combustion.

Input voltage had nothing to do with this failure, move along genius.

Edit: Seriously, look at the boards:



These boards failed from the inside out, possibly similar in failure to the Asicminer Prisma? I don't really know why, but I do know that the other miners on the same PSU and same building did not suffer the same problem.

like a said Obviously you don't your the one showing the burnt S7 not me. Just a question poof how many PSU's you have on one breaker think about that poofy.

That picture sure makes you look like you really know what you are doing lol.


 

Why drag poor 'ol poofy into this? I have been quiet.
Also, are you drunk?

[alh]

Kind of crazy prices for the B6 and B7 when you consider the upcoming block reward halving..

Why is this crazy? Bitmain will try and collect whatever the market will pay for the S9. Until market demand declines, or they have some concrete competition, they'll keep prices as high as they can. The Halving really doesn't figure into their game plan, in my opinion. Find out how many folks will pay $2000 for a miner. When that pool is satisfied, find out how many will pay $1900. Keep rinsing and repeating until you have a new generation.

Bitmain isn't in the business of helping any purchaser to make money, that's the purchaser's responsibility.

Just my thoughts.

[IP]

Hi,

I made an order for two Antminer S9 B5 than I made a direct bitcoin payment but almost 72 hours after that transaction is stil unconfirmed. Bitmain said "The payment is on the way.
We don't receive it yet. " Did anybody seen something like that?

when you buy one they send an email to you so
find the tx id.  and reply in an email to them.
see below


https://i.imgur.com/Bfgv4hJ.png

They obviously see the transaction ID. They wrote: "The payment is on the way"

okay do it your way.  i only have done it my way for 30 orders and always got credit within 24 hours.

 your way seems to make it last longer   so far 72 hours.    have fun waiting.


once again I led you to the water it is up to you to drink.

I think you do not understand me.
Bitmain know the transaction ID. They said the problem is with Bitcoin platform. And that is what I am asking if anybody had such a problem before. If someone can give me advice I will tell him the transaction ID.

[philipma1957]

Hi,

I made an order for two Antminer S9 B5 than I made a direct bitcoin payment but almost 72 hours after that transaction is stil unconfirmed. Bitmain said "The payment is on the way.
We don't receive it yet. " Did anybody seen something like that?

when you buy one they send an email to you so
find the tx id.  and reply in an email to them.
see below

They obviously see the transaction ID. They wrote: "The payment is on the way"

okay do it your way.  i only have done it my way for 30 orders and always got credit within 24 hours.

 your way seems to make it last longer   so far 72 hours.    have fun waiting.


once again I led you to the water it is up to you to drink.

I think you do not understand me.
Bitmain know the transaction ID. They said the problem is with Bitcoin platform. And that is what I am asking if anybody had such a problem before. If someone can give me advice I will tell him the transaction ID.

no one can help with out seeing the tx id.

if you show the id   we could see why it got stuck.   without examination of the id we would only be guessing.

I have had stuck transactions due to various reasons.  So  the id needs to be looked at , hopefully  it still exists. Since id's can drop off the system.

[not.you]

Hi,

I made an order for two Antminer S9 B5 than I made a direct bitcoin payment but almost 72 hours after that transaction is stil unconfirmed. Bitmain said "The payment is on the way.
We don't receive it yet. " Did anybody seen something like that?

when you buy one they send an email to you so
find the tx id.  and reply in an email to them.
see below

They obviously see the transaction ID. They wrote: "The payment is on the way"

okay do it your way.  i only have done it my way for 30 orders and always got credit within 24 hours.

 your way seems to make it last longer   so far 72 hours.    have fun waiting.


once again I led you to the water it is up to you to drink.

I think you do not understand me.
Bitmain know the transaction ID. They said the problem is with Bitcoin platform. And that is what I am asking if anybody had such a problem before. If someone can give me advice I will tell him the transaction ID.

I think all you can do is wait for the transaction to get picked up in a block.  This is why I always include an over-size fee when buying a miner from bitmain, to make sure it gets confirmed quickly.  I have waited nearly two weeks in the past for a transaction to get picked up that had too small of a fee on it.  In that case I actually thought it wasn't ever going to happen but it eventually did.

[philipma1957]

@not.you  he did not post the transaction id so I don't know if it is a double spend or a low fee.

 he is new and paranoid  he with holds the info needed to help him. He could be  a liar and a troll , but most likely he is afraid that revealing the tx id will hurt him.
while in reality it should have been posted in his first post.



@ op  try reading this and looking at the screen shot this is one of many things that could be wrong.
No one can help you with out the tx id.  so post it and also take a screenshot of it like the one below  in case it falls off the system.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541249.0

 read here  and ask questions here  since you don't want to show the tx id


I do suggest you have screen shots of it in case it drops off the system.


this is not good enough


https://blockchain.info/tx/815bd1f2b2308efcff78c9f6823cba69b6923027a6a905ff7a97eac20f19a74a

here is one of many possible things wrong

I can tell you this it is your money but you need to have the tx id and a good screenshot posted

some problems  can drop the tx id off the system.

[not.you]

On the occasion when my transaction did not confirm for two weeks it had disappeared at one point from both blockchain.info and blocktrail.com only to reappear a couple days later.  I thought it had dropped off and I was going to give it a couple more days and then resend it but the transaction was apparently rebroadcast by someone because it reappeared on both of those block explorers and then was picked up in a block soon after.

But you're right Philip, we don't really know if that is the issue without the txid.  But based on what bitmain told him I am guessing that is the issue.

[HagssFIN]

Kind of crazy prices for the B6 and B7 when you consider the upcoming block reward halving..

Why is this crazy? Bitmain will try and collect whatever the market will pay for the S9. Until market demand declines, or they have some concrete competition, they'll keep prices as high as they can. The Halving really doesn't figure into their game plan, in my opinion. Find out how many folks will pay $2000 for a miner. When that pool is satisfied, find out how many will pay $1900. Keep rinsing and repeating until you have a new generation.

Bitmain isn't in the business of helping any purchaser to make money, that's the purchaser's responsibility.

Just my thoughts.

Yes.. By crazy I mean't it makes no sense for the buyer.
For Bitmain those prices of course bring a big profit.

Heck, my B2 was ~2050USD incl. shipping

And now with S9 they have stopped giving coupons for loyal customers.

[Finksy]

that's a S7, this is S9 thread, let's stay on topic as much as we can but much thx for sharing.

will monitor the miners closely.

They are built the same, and I felt that prospective buyers should be aware.  That is why I started a separate thread on the matter, and am only answering questions regarding the situation on this thread.

like a said Obviously you don't your the one showing the burnt S7 not me. Just a question poof how many PSU's you have on one breaker think about that poofy.

That picture sure makes you look like you really know what you are doing lol.

You know what they say, when logic and reason fail it's best to resort to name-calling.

[Cassey]

I think all you can do is wait for the transaction to get picked up in a block.  This is why I always include an over-size fee when buying a miner from bitmain, to make sure it gets confirmed quickly.  I have waited nearly two weeks in the past for a transaction to get picked up that had too small of a fee on it.  In that case I actually thought it wasn't ever going to happen but it eventually did.

I also always bump up my transaction fee.  On my recent order, I did so until the slider indicated the transaction was likely to confirm in 3 blocks.

[Tupsu]

Yes.. By crazy I mean't it makes no sense for the buyer.
For Bitmain those prices of course bring a big profit.

Heck, my B2 was ~2050USD incl. shipping

And now with S9 they have stopped giving coupons for loyal customers.

Batch1 was 2400 USD + shippimg

https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=0002016052907243375530DcJIoK0654

B2  1985 USD
https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201606080945140191yC0JO150614

B3  2085 USD
https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020160615101405024dzgObks806F2

[Longsnowsm]

I see batches B6 and B7 are up for sale... And no decrease in price with halving 2 days away...

I think we have already seen our run up in BTC price from Sept to now from $230ish to $600ish.  Which is good money at the current reward rate on the S9, but after halving at these prices it will mean grinding it out.  ROI? I don't see any of these later batches ROI anytime soon since you didn't get the benefit of the bigger reward to recoup some of your investment.  Those that jumped on the B1 and B3 have the best shot of ROI and making some money.  The rest... Oh boy.  

If they don't drop the price there is no way the math works unless I am completely wrong about BTC price.  I guess anything is possible.    I will keep watching and see if the price of the S9 comes down to where it is realistic to think ROI in less than a year.  Just hoping maybe?  

[iglasses]

LOL BTC3.2 for something that will never mine half that.

If you had %100 free electricity you could never ever ever come close to breaking even on this.

[SilverHoldings]

LOL BTC3.2 for something that will never mine half that.

If you had %100 free electricity you could never ever ever come close to breaking even on this.

I do not understand either. I have tried to picture multiple scenarios but none of them makes buying an S9 the wise move at these prices. They literally need to cut the price of the next batch in 1/2 for it to be at all even possible to imagine breaking even. Seeing how happy people are to be parted with their BTC in this thread it is apparent that mining is becoming a hobby and a form of nerd entertainment. It definitely is not profitable or even potentially profitable for anyone investing BTC at these prices.

[Cassey]

I do not understand either. I have tried to picture multiple scenarios but none of them makes buying an S9 the wise move at these prices. They literally need to cut the price of the next batch in 1/2 for it to be at all even possible to imagine breaking even. Seeing how happy people are to be parted with their BTC in this thread it is apparent that mining is becoming a hobby and a form of nerd entertainment. It definitely is not profitable or even potentially profitable for anyone investing BTC at these prices.

Is investing in "penny stocks" a hobby?  Don't think so.  Mentality is likely similar.  Nobody is buying with a ROI hope at Today's prices, they are hoping the price rises.  You don't buy a $5 stock hoping it goes to $6, you hope it goes to $50.  Same thing here.

Yes, with BTC, there is the alternative of just buying the coin itself, but that is not nearly as much fun.  Its a paper transaction vs. having something you can see (and hear!).