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361  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: July 16, 2014, 10:42:57 PM

We look to be sticking in the $615-$625 range today unless there are some big buyers or sellers that start logging on...

It seems, the most probable thing to happen is that all those miners or entities having to dump sell a part of their coins every other day only drive the price down gradually. Let's see what happens...  Undecided

Ha.... Ha! What did I say? Nothing's happening these days but those dumps every 12-24 hours. It's very interesting, though that they don't actually manage to get the price down substantially. We've seen times where small dumps like these would have crashed the market!
362  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: XBTec Announce. New ASIC manufacturer on: July 16, 2014, 08:30:28 PM
I really was watching this company as it seemed as if they had cracked asicminer's efficiency problems, but it doesn't look good. I don't know if jimmothy's bet would default to 'lost' if they didn't produce a miner. but he takes it like an honorable person!
363  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ROCKMINER ASIC miner official thread on: July 16, 2014, 08:27:52 PM
So how are these devices selling? Is rockxie producing and shipping enough to saturate the market or are the warehouses empty? It seems like the landscape has changed since last year, where ASICMiner devices sold at a premium on eBay  Tongue
364  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: PS3 Mining - Does it work? on: July 16, 2014, 08:26:05 PM
It's interesting how every new generation of some next-generation computing device people assume it would revolutionize bitcoin mining. People have to realize that those processors are multi-purpose processors. Processors specifically designed to perform a certain task (ASICs) are already far far far superior to any multi-purpose CPU that's available and will be available in the next 10 years...
365  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Java script mining, How? on: July 16, 2014, 08:23:40 PM
I accidentally stumbled on this site http://www.bitcoinplus.com/miner/embeddable and I would like to know if there are more similar and how do java script mining and whether it is successful thing that is most cost-effective way of mining
Geez, that really is a blast from the past. In the times where CPU-mining was still possible, a large set of CPU miners (botnet / website visitors) could really earn you some BTC, but even GPU mining is obsolete, many ASICs even are, so CPU-mining on an interpreted language? It's like trying to drain a lake with a teaspoon for dolls!
366  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: July 16, 2014, 08:16:11 PM

We look to be sticking in the $615-$625 range today unless there are some big buyers or sellers that start logging on...

It seems, the most probable thing to happen is that all those miners or entities having to dump sell a part of their coins every other day only drive the price down gradually. Let's see what happens...  Undecided
367  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: multiple devices on: July 16, 2014, 08:14:31 PM
The S1 is a stand-alone miner.  You could run the rockminer together with the USB one though.

You can certainly point all to the same pool.
You can probably run both the USB one and the Rockminer on the same instance of cgminer, however if that gives you problems, you can always run separate instances of cgminer/bfgminer for each of these.  At some point I had 6 instances of bfgminer/cgminer running on the same old win7 laptop with a garden variety of miners.  Just read the 'readme' files of these mining packages and use the latest ones if your miners are of a recent 'vintage'.

Cheers

Yeah, shouldn't be a problem, should it? As long as the software miner knows how to talk to the miners, it should recognize them. I only have hands-on experience with an array of ASICMiner Block Erupters, so they were all the same hardware miner. But it shouldn't be a problem as long as you point them all to your account in the pool.
368  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: how to mine bitcoin without a pool? on: July 16, 2014, 08:10:31 PM
If you solo mine with small amount of power, it would be like winning the lottery. Some people have turned old USB hardware thats not profitable as a miner, and turned them into a "lottery ticket". Its possible but not likely. You would be better off join a pool.  
I'm one of those.  I have 5 Antminer U2 sticks that I use to solo mine.  I haven't solved a block yet, but the cost to run the things is minimal (they are controlled by a raspberry pi) so I keep it going.  Chances are exceedingly slim that I will solve a block, but why not let them hash away and try?  The earnings on a pool are dust anyway.

I'm thinking of doing something similar.  Do we have any recent reports of low hash miners who got lucky?  I was thinking of mining with very little, just for the heck of it, like a lottery ticket.  But, I'd like to have some hope, in terms of someone else who's gotten lucky recently with very little hashrate.  I'm sure it must happen all the time...

PS what are requirements for Antminer U2 sticks?  Can I run just on a nothing-special laptop?

Ha, yes it literally is like a lottery ticket. The comparison is awesome! The only depressing thing is that your lottery tickets' chances of winning get smaller and smaller every 12 days, unless you invest in a new miner lottery ticket
369  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: It seems impossible to me to successfuly explain the concept of mining to... on: July 16, 2014, 08:08:11 PM
older people. Tried to explain to my parents, they just don't get it. Let alone grandparents. It's a waste of time it seems.
But that's not the problem. Even regular joes just don't get it. "Where does the money come from?", "whats the intrinsic value?", and so on and so on.
What's your experience with this?

I've heard that the analogy to a universally distributed excel sheet is a rather good one. I don't quite recall who made that one up, but it goes something like this: Imagine a large excel file with all accounts in existence (bitcoin addresses). Everyone who's in possession of a key to an address may transfer money from that address to another one. To avoid double spends or the 'who came first' problem, in order to have a new definitive version of the excel sheet, people solve mathematical puzzles that are difficult to solve, but once someone found another solution, his version gets accepted. He is being rewarded for that by receiving new bitcoins.
370  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Bitcoin Generator? on: July 16, 2014, 08:03:06 PM
Does it work? I'm kinda curious. I see lots of bitcoin generator  videos on youtube  and I must say it looks "functional"

Well yeah, they're called 'miners'... It's quite funny to find a post here in this sub-forum called... well... 'Mining'  Cheesy
371  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What happened at block 310853. Somebody get lucky in Montreal? on: July 16, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
I wonder how many machines are needed at once to produce the amount of hashing power to make solo mining useful at near 2015. This is just nuts.

Well, the machines are getting better every day. Our current total network hashrate would've blown everyone's minds in 2012. All those 1 TH/s miners that are quite affordable, even for consumers, would've been outright doomsday devices back then.
372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CPU vs. GPU mining on: July 16, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
Can someone tell me, why GPU mining is better then CPU mining?? It's so strangely, i think.

GPUs can perform 'stupid' operations faster while consuming far less energy in the process. Graphics operations are - computational-wise - rather boring and simple operations. When they're configured to perform the mining algorithms, they outperform CPUs easily. But ASICs are even better. They're specifically designed to do those calculations and consume even less energy.
373  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is the Future of Bitcoin ? on: July 16, 2014, 07:49:05 PM
Umm, I really don't know what the future holds for bitcoin, and highly doubt that it will topple all banks or replace FIAT currencies altogether. But I do think it's probable that it finds its niche or application where it may surpass our wildest dreams, still!
374  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Island on: July 16, 2014, 07:47:22 PM
wohooho thats interested like a film a lost island life without bitcoin and miners everywhere
and casinos everywhere thats greaat
and all payment with bitcoin Cheesy

it will be interested if someone implement this

Whoa, nice try Mr. Pirate! I bet you'll be mooring your ship in the harbor first thing after the island is being opened!  Cheesy
375  Other / Off-topic / Re: FBI U.S. Marshals Auction Prices Leaked! (Bullish) on: July 16, 2014, 07:38:00 PM
I assume this is coming back up because the winner is back in the news over the 6 Californias thing.

Yeah, but there are people ('counter') talking about the auction as if it was taking place in the future. Which is odd, to say the least... I mean, there are supposedly upcoming auctions of the remaining funds that have been seized, but I guess it still takes quite some time for them to be auctioned off...
376  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2014, 07:36:15 PM
and all this talk about manipulation when someone is dumping in 500 batches while everyone else is expecting a bubble is...manipulative.

 Cheesy

I really don't know if everybody is still expecting a bubble... Many have written the bubble off, but maybe not enough people for the bubble to actually begin - remember, a bubble only happens when a lot of people don't expect it to occur anymore!



those who have written the bubble off are selling.

if they take the upper hand, this jump could easily end up as merely a bounce from a local floor.

On the other hand, they'd immediately join the train when it really starts and when it is obvious that it isn't just a short rally but another full-blown bubble. Those are the things that really get a bubble going!
377  Other / Off-topic / Re: FBI U.S. Marshals Auction Prices Leaked! (Bullish) on: July 16, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
I have been expecting higher than market value since the "whales" do not have to send money to unregulated exchanges.

Very valid point and a good reason to expect high bids.  Did you expect a drop in the price of Bitcoin also after or at some point during the auction?

Am I trapped in some kind of time vortex? The auction is long over! We're basically waiting for someone to reveal their losing bets or the FOIA requests to get fulfilled (which may take a lot of time or happen never)...
378  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 16, 2014, 07:23:31 PM
and all this talk about manipulation when someone is dumping in 500 batches while everyone else is expecting a bubble is...manipulative.

 Cheesy

I really don't know if everybody is still expecting a bubble... Many have written the bubble off, but maybe not enough people for the bubble to actually begin - remember, a bubble only happens when a lot of people don't expect it to occur anymore!
everywhere I look people are sayin it won't happen for months.

Yeah well, basically no one knows jack... Everyone is just speculating - like you and me - and drawing colorful patterns on logarithmic charts. I, myself, believe we're still on track for any potential bubble to come. But hey, maybe we need another big dip or won't even see a bubble this year. No one knows!
379  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This banker tricks us to do away with deflationary nature of bitcoin! on: July 16, 2014, 07:21:43 PM
Well, it's not exactly only good stuff that comes from a deflationary currency. In fact, it may just be as bad as a highly inflationary currency. Just think about how people won't want to spend money when their money was worth more the next day! (Yes I know, people are spending their bitcoin - but they're enthusiasts. We have to remain on the level of a nation's economy and use the psychology that applies to the regular person using a currency)
380  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo on: July 16, 2014, 07:18:32 PM
...If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

Since 2010 there have been dozens (perhaps hundreds, or even thousands) of media articles that call Bitcoin "anonymous", so many people believe that even though it is not true.
If you use Tor, bitcoin fog, and wifi hot spots then you could effectively use bitcoin and be anonymous.

In reality, unless you are dealing with a lot of money (at least 6 figures, as measured in US Dollar equivalent) then most likely, no one will be able/bother to discover your identity.

How did we even end up talking about how to remain anonymous when this thread started with our Frappuchino loving Frenchman on that island far far east?  Grin
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