please read this,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712480.msg8111920#msg8111920

is it scam?

thanks

you have not asked him about shiping address within 5 months  becuse you were stating that he had not paid, was not at the list etc, so how he is dodging? lol.

you are scammer!

you have not answered him to his refund/shipment his miners request within 5 months until his devices becomes obsolete
please answer why

i think you lost his record and you are trying to hide this fact on your secret private list and now you are doing everything to swap your errors at communication to his loss.

and mark me and him as scammers

pathetic

answer unaswered questions.

in short time i will create and fund campagain related your behavior
people will decide is such way to scamming people fair.

i will post also warnings at reddit/youtube/coindesk/litecointalk and other places.

normal way

in short
(
5.02 hi there is my order i have paid
group buy creator:thank you very much
10.02 please refund
group buy creator: sorry, no refunds for gridseeds,  please provide me shipping address, 1 btc sent for 10 usb miners
shipping data sent
13.02
miners sent, customer happy
)

your version
(
curiousminer, 5.02
please reserve for me 10 usb and 5 gridseeds, there are my tx id

no response from beastlymac

curiousminer, 10.02
please refund me btc i send to you due to customs problems

beastlymac, 10.02
please provide me tx id and signed message from sending address

curiousminer, 17.02
i am sorry for late, i was sick, blockchain.info is down now, i will send encrypted message later, i hope you still have my btc

no response from beastlymac


curiousminer 10.03
here is  my signed message...

beastlymac 11.03
it doesnt like i have you on the list making payment can you provide payment details ?

curiousminer 13.03
please refund my btc, i have ordered at 5.02...

beastlymac 13.03
please provide all order details as i dont have you at my list

curiousminer 13.03
here is my order... and signed message, what else i can provide you ?

no response from beastlymac

curiousminer 24.03
what else i can provide you Huh are you trying to scam me ?

no response from beastlymac

curiousminer 3.04
hello i sent you all details you need, please refund or i will start scam accusations

beastlymac 3.04
what items you have ordered? i dont have you ordered anything
please send email to ... to speed things up.

curiousminer sent email with all details, never replied

curiousminer 11.04
hi i send you email you did not reply to me, please give back my 3 btc

no response from beastlymac

curiousminer 19.04
i send you email please respond!

no response from beastlymac

curiousminer 5.07
please listen carefully i dont want ruin reputation. please refund me btc...

beastlymac 5.07
sign message with proof of ownership of address... i dont have you at any records. are you listed at the threads ?
)

mark customer as scammer and his brother too.

CAN YOU DEFEND THIS ?

below are my "slanderous lies" and "fabricated proofs" (reason of destroying my bitcointalk account by posting trust feedback)

http://i62.tinypic.com/w19oo.png
http://i58.tinypic.com/210ca4i.png
http://pl.tinypic.com/r/msnlea/8
http://i61.tinypic.com/15p376f.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/r932uq.png
http://i58.tinypic.com/ajwg7s.png
http://i62.tinypic.com/fbj8k5.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/v7sjfm.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/9qy6j9.png
http://i59.tinypic.com/2qjmaef.png

please qoute me answer to this

1. date, when you have his miners at your place
2. why you have not responded to his emails
3. why you have been ignoring him holding his miners and money within 3 months?

Beastly!

you have never answered those questions

they are key to this situation so please respond!

not responding to requests whitin 5 months (refund, shipment) ordered goods (miners) are form of scam!!!

please it is about your communication
you have scammed him not responding!


answer those questions !!!!

problem is that beastlymac was ignoring him having his miners and money
it lasted 5 months...

is it normal ?

please answer

please answer first


and new ones
5. you wanted to send emais to speed up communication, why you have not answered to thoose  emails ?
6. why you have been ignoring him holding his miners and money within 3 months?

here is full communication, sorry for shortening up your responses with bad grammar english is not my native language

http://i62.tinypic.com/w19oo.png
http://i58.tinypic.com/210ca4i.png
http://pl.tinypic.com/r/msnlea/8
http://i61.tinypic.com/15p376f.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/r932uq.png
http://i58.tinypic.com/ajwg7s.png
http://i62.tinypic.com/fbj8k5.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/v7sjfm.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/9qy6j9.png
http://i59.tinypic.com/2qjmaef.png


Whole case is complicated becouse my brother was sure that he will be refunded becouse he was not at any list and you were stating that he had not bought anything from you. You made an error becouse you had not him at any list till 5.07.
Within 4 months you have not answered him once that his goods are already ordered and waiting for him, and refund for 10 usb miners will be sent.

Those responses after 5.07 does not matter in that case.


You were repeatidly ingoring him, you were not answering to emails, pms, from march till july.
WHY YOU NOT ANSWERED HIM THAT HIS MINERS ARE READY TO SHIP AND HIS 1 BTC WILL BE REFUNDED SHORTLY ?
you should answer it at march!!! you choosed to total ingore him.
you should use your secret private list to check his status you dont have to mess with 2500+ pms, this is not explanation. So you were stating that you have missed his 4 pms so it is your fault and he has to pay for it ?

those responses does not matter in this case, period wchich you were ingoring him was 5.02 - 5.07 when he wanted to solve it alone.

Was my brother asked to resend pms ? So you keep his miners and were ignoring him from march till july due to your travel 11.04-19.04

please read through again, 3 months passed with no communication? what a joke!!!




If his order was valid and his miners were ready to send him at march why you were ignoring him having his goods and money that time (march-july)?


You should answer to unanswered ones

1.bestlymac when you got his miners at your place ?
2.why you havent send him any info about this fact or no refunds fact ?

and new ones:
3.if he was at your private list why you were denying that he ordered anything from you ? (4 times, so 4 times you were not at home?)
4.if he was not at the public list and you were stating that he had not order anything how he could know that his order is valid?

Really?
There is full communication between you and curiousminer (i have screenshoots for all qouted below)

Let community decide again, please

Please community, rate this communication from beastlymac.
it is terrible.
he never mentioned about no refunds. he is still stating that curiousminer was on his private record.

bestlymac when you got his miners at your place ?
why you havent send him any info about this fact or no refunds fact ?


curiousminer, 5.02
please reserve for me 10 usb and 5 gridseeds, there are my tx id

no response from beastlymac

curiousminer, 10.02
please refund me btc i send to you due to customs problems

beastlymac, 10.02
please provide me tx id and signed message from sending address

curiousminer, 17.02
i am sorry for late, i was sick, blockchain.info is down now, i will send encrypted message later, i hope you still have my btc

no response from beastlymac



curiousminer 10.03
here is my signed message...

beastlymac 11.03
it doesnt like i have you on the list making payment can you provide payment details ?

curiousminer 13.03
please refund my btc, i have ordered at 5.02...

beastlymac 13.03
please provide all order details as i dont have you at my list

curiousminer 13.03
here is my order... and signed message, what else i can provide you ?

no response from beastlymac

curiousminer 24.03
what else i can provide you are you trying to scam me ?

no response from beastlymac

curiousminer 3.04
hello i sent you all details you need, please refund or i will start scam accusations

beastlymac 3.04
what items you have ordered? i dont have you ordered anything
please send email to ... to speed things up.

curiousminer sent email with all details, never replied

curiousminer 11.04
hi i send you email you did not reply to me, please give back my 3 btc

no response from beastlymac

curiousminer 19.04
i send you email please respond!

no response from beastlymac

curiousminer 5.07
please listen carefully i dont want ruin reputation. please refund me btc...

beastlymac 5.07
sign message with proof of ownership of address... i dont have you at any records. are you listed at the threads ?

Beastly

You have ruined my reputation, my brother reputation and created huge loss for him around 1.8 BTC

It was done becouse you have not responded to his pms at time and directed him to thought that he will be fully refunded!

WHEN YOU HAVE RECEIVED HIS GOODS YOU HAVE NOT SEND INFO ABOUT THIS MATTER TO HIM!!!!

i will collect all corespondence with you, pms, emails in one big sum up.

let community decide are you honest trustworthy person or not.

you should pay for your errors and remove undeserved feedback left at our profiles to finish this scam accusation fairly.

how transparent is your secret private list coming out of the hat when needed?
how wothy are your records if kept in secret and not used when needed? (hint to answer pms)

you said that he was not at public list, but private record.

so i quoted you your false pms related to your records.

my "lies" are based at your erroreus and totaly unacceptable false customer support.

if you were honest, and full of respect to your customers, curiousminer would be refunded or his order would be transferred to someone else, there were many chances to transfer his order, but you have choosed to not reply to pm, or reply with false information and not reply to emails you wanted to be sent to you.

any comment on that?

unfortunatelly you and your trust network power are ruining any chances to getting out of this mess.

you create losses due to your incompetence and you are ruining people accounts becouse you are at second level default trust.

All three are related to fact you have sent curiousminer pms with false information (regarding he is not at your records)

"lying that you have ordered goods"
"he lied that he has his miners sealed"
"he has not ordered items for curiousminer"

those pms are below, as factual evidence



I will not going to speak with you by skype.

So all comes to one thing that my lies are related to one fact.
Fact that you responded to curiousminer that he is not at your records/didnt ordered anything

so it is one lie

lie based on false information you have provided.

then you told me that those false information were related to fact that you were not at home.

it was after i "lied" so my "lie" is result of your false information

which was corrected after

so my "lie" is consequence of your erorreus communication.

so should i be responsible for your errors?

why you are punishing me for your errors?

is it fair ?

i got full information you have provided.
you have twice informed curiousminer that he has not ordered anything.
screen from pm inbox/outbox is factual evidence.

please tell me where i am wrong ?

ok so you have destroyed my bitcointalk account becouse i accused you of lying ?

accusation was becouse you have said twice to curiousminer that he has not order anything from you (he was not at your records)

so my lies are consequence of your responses to him wchich turned out to be false
(due to your travelling, not taking group buy secret private list with you)

your statement about traveling was after i submited "lie"

so how it can be lie if i had no full information? should i have crystall ball ?

please remove your trust rating from my profile, becouse my lies were based of false information you have provided.

thanks.

if you answering tell that you are not sure becouse you are at travel. you didnt. twice. how curiousminer could know about you travelling?

1 yes
2 yes

3 if yes, so why instead of asking for adres signature you have not asked about shipping address, order transfer etc?

you havent helped him
he asked you multiple times to get refund, you were ignoring his pms emails, denying that he has order anything.

why you behaved like that?


regarding feedback,
so you will not remove false feedback due to fact that you are traveling? wtf?
can you explain that closer?

so all your statements send by pm to curiousminer are false becouse you were not at home?


twice?
at april and july?

i dont care about those photos of miners. you have been denying that he ordered anything.
this is a fact.

please remove trust feedback from my profile.

your accusations of me lying are based on some imaginary secret list wchich you dont check answering to people requests, becouse you are not at home.

here is perfect example of your scam

all my lies are related to your secret private list

you said to curiousminer that he have not ordered anything.

i said that you have not ordered goods for him becouse you were denying that he is on your records.

so where i lied?

tell me. i dont understand this.