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3781  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What does it take to get a job around here? on: December 11, 2011, 09:49:57 PM
You sound like Herman Cain blaming the victims of this destruction for their lack of success in the first place. The fact is every human being has value and it's in the best interest of everybody to have a job. Employers, in an efficient society, would have hired up all these people because their is a constant need for food, housing and other desires to be met. There is no reason for anybody to be stagnant and we can only blame the destruction of the incentive to meet societal desires. If we want to see the destroyer, the parasite, we can look no further than our government.

As you are implying, all these workers are capable of producing. Resumes and bureaucracy should not be stopping them.



That's a very blanket statement.  You seem to be making a utilitarian argument where the value of any individual is the same as the value of any other individual regardless of individual circumstance.  Is it in the best interest of everybody if, say, a crooked cop gets a job?

Also, blaming the government defers responsibility away from the individual.  Actually, the government can be argued to be the result of the sum of individual choices.  Welcome to democracy where mediocrity rules.

Also, the "poor" in america are probably in the top 25%-50% in the world economically.  The "poor" here have basic needs met (generally speaking). 

It's funny.  If I didn't attend school, occasionally listen to the news, or read about changes in law or social policy, I probably wouldn't even notice government-induced changes.


Every individual has value to bring. I never said it was equal.

In addition, I never remembered I or anybody else voting for excess Federal control over our society. I don't remember saying our government is allowed to violate The Constitution.

True, but what if a person brings negative value?

Again, if I didn't stay informed to some degree, I'd probably be completely oblivious to the government violating the Constitution.
3782  Economy / Goods / Customized Ringtones for BTC!!! Referral Bonuses Available! on: December 11, 2011, 09:45:29 PM
I'm a long-time musician, and I think I'm quite good.  I also have a very respectable in-home recording studio.

For 3 BTC I will write and record an original ringtone for your phone.  This ringtone will be sent to you via mp3 format and then you can simply use an online mp3-to-ringtone conversion website for free.  

You may pick ANY style of music for your ringtone.  You may also specify the length of the ringtone which should be anywhere between 15-30 seconds.

Here are some original samples
http://soundcloud.com/musicmelody123/sample-1
http://soundcloud.com/musicmelody123/sample-2

Support local music and simultaneously receive a personalized, customized ringtone for you and only you!  Have a ringtone that nobody else on Earth has!

The FIRST person to take this offer will receive their ringtone for only 2 BTC!

That's not all.  If you can find THREE people to purchase a ringtone for 3 BTC by referring them to this thread, then you will get your own customized ringtone for ABSOLUTELY FREE!!

That's STILL not all!  For EVERY person you refer to this thread that successfully purchases a ringtone from me for 3 BTC, you will receive .5 BTC!!!  This means that if you refer 3 people to my thread and get them to purchase ringtones for 3 BTC, you will receive your own customized ringtone for free AND receive 1.5 BTC!!!

Let's get it started!!!   Grin
3783  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What does it take to get a job around here? on: December 11, 2011, 09:26:13 PM
You sound like Herman Cain blaming the victims of this destruction for their lack of success in the first place. The fact is every human being has value and it's in the best interest of everybody to have a job. Employers, in an efficient society, would have hired up all these people because their is a constant need for food, housing and other desires to be met. There is no reason for anybody to be stagnant and we can only blame the destruction of the incentive to meet societal desires. If we want to see the destroyer, the parasite, we can look no further than our government.

As you are implying, all these workers are capable of producing. Resumes and bureaucracy should not be stopping them.



That's a very blanket statement.  You seem to be making a utilitarian argument where the value of any individual is the same as the value of any other individual regardless of individual circumstance.  Is it in the best interest of everybody if, say, a crooked cop gets a job?

Also, blaming the government defers responsibility away from the individual.  Actually, the government can be argued to be the result of the sum of individual choices.  Welcome to democracy where mediocrity rules.

Also, the "poor" in america are probably in the top 25%-50% in the world economically.  The "poor" here have basic needs met (generally speaking). 

It's funny.  If I didn't attend school, occasionally listen to the news, or read about changes in law or social policy, I probably wouldn't even notice government-induced changes.
3784  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Question about investing with bitcoin. on: December 11, 2011, 09:17:16 PM
Hmm, thats a nice strategic plan you got there joint Cheesy

what if I were to open up a bitcoin business(like a mining contract thing) would that be profitable in anyway?

I get free electricity as part of my rent agreement and I've thought of doing the same thing.

Mining isn't that profitable for me even with free electricity.  I'm making like $1 a day haha.

I've put it out there that if anyone wants to move a small rig of theirs to my place, they are more than welcome.  I would simply charge them something along the lines of half their current electric bill.  But I still don't see myself making more than $50 a month if someone took me up on this.

If you're talking about setting up a mining company from scratch, then I'm assuming you're talking about investing in a lot of hardware.  It would take you a very long time to pay off that hardware.  It's a big gamble.
3785  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What does it take to get a job around here? on: December 11, 2011, 09:05:02 PM
There are tons of jobs available, including so-called "dream-jobs."

If you have ambition, motivation, dedication, and persistence (and of course, skills), you can get a job without too much trouble.

Maybe if people didn't send tons of crap resumes to monster.com or other similar job posting sites and simply focused on preparing themselves for a position they truly desire, they would have more luck.
3786  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Question about investing with bitcoin. on: December 11, 2011, 09:00:41 PM
I may only be a teenager, but I want to start investing. I've been looking around seeing what I could do to turn a few little dollars into twice its value. I've wanted to just wait for the value of mtgoxCAD to go down then to just buy buy buy, then sell it all when it gets expensive, but then I saw mining contracts and just mining Bitcoins myself. If I were to go with this contract, and I used the 500MHash for 9 dollars I would only be getting 10 dollars from it at current mtgoxUSD rates.

I'm still curious about other options.Now my question is, what do you guys think would be a viable plan to make some small change from Bitcoin?

Here's the method I've used that has helped me make 700% profit on a $100 investment since about June 20th.  That's right...700% profit using a SAFE strategy since the bubble burst.

I took $100 when TradeHill was still accepting Dwolla (you will need a new deposit method at this point) and deposited it into my TH account. 150% of my profit has come through mining using a 6970.  The other 550% has come though trading.

The method:

1)  Use entire deposit to place a buy order approximately 10% below current market value.  The exact price at which you set your bid order is dependent on a number of factors and takes a little experimentation to get "correct."
2)  Wait for someone to dump a large amount of coins
3)  Typically, a quick dump on TradeHill is immediately followed by a return to the pre-dump price assuming that the dump on TradeHill wasn't precipitated by a dump on Mt. Gox
4)  Immediately sell your coins at the pre-dump price unless you have very good reason to think the price is going to continue to go up.

The pros of this method:  
1)  Assuming you keep close observance of the market, it will be very hard for you to lose a lot, if any, money.  It's very low risk.
2)  You stand to make anywhere between 5-10% profit on every trade.  

The cons of this method
1)  There will be many times where you will not perform any trades for several weeks, either because the price stays very stable or increases.
2)  If the price increases, you may miss out on a rally because you are always waiting for the dumps.
3)  If your buy order is not adjusted correctly, you will miss the dumps.  I can't tell you how many times I would have caught the dips if I had increased my bid price by a penny.  For example, today I had 2 buy orders placed:  1 buy order was set at 3.1300001 and the other was at 3.130001.  One of the dumps hit my 3.130001.  It missed my 3.1300001.  
4)  This is NOT a long-term investment strategy.  It's essentially an extremely conservative day-trading strategy.

Results:
About 80% of my trades have been profitable whereas 20% have either been break-even trades or trades for a loss.  I've also made a few mistakes including (yikes) typos while entering my bids or sells.
3787  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This is a war. Do you realize it? on: December 10, 2011, 06:36:14 PM
ows has achieved nothing and will continue to achieve nothing and will all vote for obama just like they were told to do in 2008.

I won't be voting for Obama (I'm not American though, so that probably explains it).
The history of the world is not the history of politics, it's the history of technology. French people 100 years ago had the same standard of living as Americans 100 years ago - as they do today. Both countries have entirely different political histories and yet at any point in time they share almost identical standards of living - the same can be said of every other country that shares the same technological history and advantages. The only thing that affects standard of living is technology and access to it - the LLRRLLLLRRRLLRLLRRR or LLLLRRLRRRRLRRLRLLR of politics in your own country is irrelevant.

the hidden reason for the LLLLRRLRRRRLRRLRLLR fight can be reduced to the question "who gets the money?" so it is in fact very important just not a fight ordinary people can play at and win.

Well, the hidden reason for the UDUDLRLRBABA select start is for the power up.
3788  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are you listening to? on: December 10, 2011, 04:53:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9PASK8iaTk

Sybreed
3789  Other / Off-topic / Re: My signature space goes to funniest post in this thread on: December 10, 2011, 04:51:41 AM
I'm sitting next to Satoshi and he says you're a douche bag.
3790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Occupy Round Table on Bitcoin on: December 10, 2011, 03:27:32 AM
Gold has the same problem.  It's money.  It's not just "a stupid rock."
3791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Occupy Round Table on Bitcoin on: December 10, 2011, 03:22:03 AM
People who say "we need a world without money" are actually saying "we need a world without trading and barter," for the two are the same.

Money is simply the good for which people most commonly barter. Remove any form of money from society and you'll quickly observe people finding other things to trade with.

If trade and exchange are occurring, then goods are being traded between people. Whichever good is most commonly used in trade is given the name of money. Not only is it a silly idea to "remove money" from society, but it is in fact as impossible as removing speech.



No.  I think this is wrong and that it's important to say why it's wrong.

Forgoing the legal definitions of what fiat currency is, money, generally speaking, is something of value.  And, as you said, it is the most commonly traded good.

But a world without money is NOT the same as a world without barter.

The thing about money is that it displaces value away from all other objects and redistributes it according to the value of the accepted currency.  I'm a musician.  I love instruments because I can play them; playing them is intrinsically beneficial to me.  I'd much rather have my guitar than, say, a watch.  But because money exists, if that watch happens to be a Rolex, you better believe I'd rather have the watch.

One of my first posts I made was about this same idea.  I still believe it to be true, and, unfortunately, I believe BTC does nothing to escape it.  In my opinion, an all-barter world is ideal, ignoring all of the psychological and other considerations that make it currently impossible (e.g. bye-bye global economics and mass production.  "Yeah, we'll give you 10 million plastic spoons for 50,000 boxes of Captain Crunch.").  Still, I think it's money's ultimate negative effect on society and people in general.
3792  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BTC_Challenge on: December 10, 2011, 03:03:51 AM
OP, if you offer more of these challenges and I happen to catch you on phrasing the challenge question poorly, or some other error that places the question out of the context for which it was intended because I can't POSSIBLY be bothered to look up the how to calculate your answer and subsequently perform said calculation, but yet, simultaneously, happen to have the time to construct this long-winded plea in hopes of gaining an edge in this competition-for-brainiacs, would you graciously accept my sound linguistic reasoning as a suitable replacement for an answer and reward me with digital delight (i.e. BTC)?
3793  Economy / Goods / Re: BitcoinCigarettes.com Factory sealed cigarettes at very low prices on: December 10, 2011, 02:53:57 AM
Just FYI regarding pipe tobacco; its actually not so much a matter of price. Taxes are surprisingly low on it here; 50g of some of the better pipe tobacco like Alsbo Black costs like 6 euro. 50g lasts me a week or more and Im a pretty hardcore pipe smoker. Problem is that its pretty damn hard to find.

That is indeed true. Taxes are usually low on pipe tobacco in most of the countries.

Pardon my ignorance, but is it illegal for you to sell and ship these to the USA?

Hello,

It is not illegal to ship them. And as far as we know, as from 2010, packages containing up to 200 cigarettes, are officially exempted from taxes in USA.
If you read our shop Terms and Conditions and FAQ, you will get an idea about the shipping process.

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask them.

Well, as far as receiving, I'll look that up.  I dunno what's regulated and what isn't.

Anyway, seeing as you have lots of marlboro on your site, any chance you could get marlboro 27s?  My buddy is interested in saving some dough but he don't handle da bitcoin.
3794  Economy / Goods / Re: BitcoinCigarettes.com Factory sealed cigarettes at very low prices on: December 10, 2011, 12:06:44 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but is it illegal for you to sell and ship these to the USA?
3795  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BTC_Challenge on: December 09, 2011, 11:59:50 PM
You make is sound like you basically guessed at the answer and then used Google to check your guess.

This has been a valuable learning experience for me and makes me really feel for any teacher nowdays that is trying to get their students to think and discover things for themselves.  When the answers to every question are so easily available people don't get to have that feeling of discovery that comes from actually thinking through a puzzle and finding the answer themselves.

You did get the correct answer and although it is not at all what I was looking for the link to the answer does satisfy the other two parts of the question, namely what was the original test question and how can you know the test question by just looking at the answers.

BTC grudginly sent.

The smartest student, I think, is the one who finds the most efficient means of passing any examination or test they come across.

Yes, even by cheating. 
3796  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the *stable price of BTC leading to increased sales? on: December 09, 2011, 11:18:09 PM
Emotionally speaking it's a different story... I think that there are a few people who are so consumed by greed that they forgo purchases paid in bitcoin.  But I don't think this effect is huge.

I don't think its huge....

its gargantuan.  Sad

Actually, it IS huge.

I do not treat BTC and money the same, and it's purely psychological.

I would rather spend $5 than 1 BTC on the same item, even if that 1 BTC is worth $3 USD.  I think it has something to do with the possibility that the price of the BTC that I would then re-buy may go down.  It's like a collectible.  And it's the dumbest logic in the world.
3797  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mt. Gox hacked? on: December 09, 2011, 11:15:51 PM
Here is something that I find people have a problem with:  They go through all the trouble of coming up with super-secure passwords for their pools, exchanges, wallets, etc.  But, what they forgot is that their email password is extremely shitty.
3798  Economy / Goods / Re: Your Very Own Song or Ringtone! (for individuals or companies) - 15 BTC on: December 08, 2011, 07:45:59 PM
Bumped!  Any takers?
3799  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mtgox auto-signs with a 437522 BTC wallet?!? on: December 08, 2011, 07:40:01 PM
So, let's say 470,000+ BTC go MIA forever...should result in a nice little price increase.

On a related note, how do we know that 1,000,000 BTC haven't already been lost forever?  Is there a way to know exactly how many BTC are in circulation and not just how many have been created?

1) Why do we need to know this information?

2) The market determines the value based on buying and selling.  Whether or not there are 1,000,000 BTC lost or not doesn't matter, b/c the supply & demand of the market will still even out.

This the same thing as stating that the federal reserve doesn't know how many US dollar bills have been lost.  It has an effect, but is evened out by captial markets anyway.

To the extent someone would "find" a bunch of coins and choose to sell them, it would hurt the price, but the market would even out.

Knowledge of the market affects supply and demand.  If there's the possibility that 1 out of every 21 Bitcoins that can ever be created is lost, that's a huge piece of information that drastically affects the way I trade.
3800  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introducing Myself on: December 08, 2011, 12:01:16 AM
Oh great, another scammer about to drop some ATIs on the marketplace...


Cheesy  Howdy.
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