@Quickseller, I don't understand why you think collecting data about earned merit, trust settings, edited posts, support/opposition of trust flags... is acceptable, but a list of URLs found in users' signatures is not. If you are concerned about privacy why aren't you complaining about LoyceV's trust setting viewer, or trust flag support/opposition pages? That seems like a much more a breach of individual privacy. I want to point out that the only way someone could have this information is if they are conducting de-facto surveillance on the entire forum on an ongoing basis. There is no other way to detect the start/end dates of signature campaign like this, nor the 'users', 'posts', and 'deleted' columns. There is absolutely no personal information to be found in the post you referenced above. Unless you're conserved about the privacy of the services being advertised, and frequency their URLs can be found in users' signatures. This is further evidence that all posts made by anyone is being collected (surveilled). This is evidence that this person has a database of every post in the forum. Again, the forum is the database. Of course all the posts are collected, they are collected right here. If they weren't publicly available, suchmoon would have no access to them.
Disclaimer: I'm not complaining about LoyceV's trust pages. I find them very useful, and don't believe they are a breach of privacy. All the information is publicly available, LoyceV just makes it more easily accessible. |
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Observing $8,125 USD/BTC. I think we've seen the bottom for this round.  Epstein's prison guards didn't kill themselves? That's the plot for the next episode of Clinton Body Count. |
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@BitcoinBilly777
I love the fake newbie reviews, that's a nice touch. Two accounts, registered minutes before leaving you positive reviews for god knows what. Too bad they aren't fooling anyone.
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Telegram is a real shit-show. Recently, someone tried to scam me on Telegram by pretending to be a user from bitcointalk. Scammers are having an easy time impersonating bitcointalk users by simply changing one letter in their user name, and luring unsuspecting victims from the forum. Here's an example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201178.0If you keep using Telegram for discussion, fine, but don't ever deal with anyone using that platform. ETA: @sardasaAccountHacked, Is this the second time? I see you made a report of your account being hacked back in May. Never mind, I see the discussion in the thread you created in the Meta board. |
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I don't know what this is and I can't be bothered to read the walls of text to find out but it looks like a list of cryptohunter's best friends so I'm deeply offended that "fat slob" is not in the list. Did I eat all those cookies for nothing? Will sue for discrimination and damage of my fragile ego. I made the list and you didn't? There's something inherently wrong with that. Actmyname did a remarkable job scouring for foxpoop, but he also missed moronbozo (my personal favorite,) so don't take it personally. It is monumental task he so brazenly volunteered to undertake. |
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3 Accounts Connected:
Some people used others’ social media addresses to join bounties. Srina, Seetha and Lakhsmi are not Turkish names. There is no connection between franch and Srina/Seetha/Lakhsmi Dirty rotten spammers. Are they just picking random social media accounts to include in their posts? Aren't the bounty managers checking if the accounts are meeting the bounty requirements? |
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I like adding the "height" function when I post an image, and if I want to give access to the full resolution version, I make the image a link. That way, even if the image to which I'm liking is huge resolution, I can control how it appears here on the forum. The "width" function will do the same thing, but the "height" function prevents the page from scrolling as the image loads. [url=https://i.imgur.com/bNBVzle.jpg][img height=400]https://i.imgur.com/bNBVzle.jpg[/img][/url]  |
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Are you using a temporary Bip39 passphrase on your ledger? If so, you'll have to enter the passphrase on your ledger before you connect it to an Electrum wallet. Also, do you remember if you had multiple accounts on your ledger?
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I have yet to receive the KeyBase air drop. Are they still distributing at this point? I'm guesing there's not run recourse if you don't get the funds anyway. I think they're still in the distribution phase of the second airdrop. One of my kids is still waiting while the rest of us got ours. Be patient, it'll come. |
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It's possible that the rest of your bitcoin just moved a change wallet. Check your transaction on a blockchain explorer to find the address to which your coins moved. If the coins haven't moved again, it's likely that Electrum sent your coins to another address withing your HD wallet.
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I am not aware of any other forum in which the mass collection of posts are allowed. Lol, please define forum. A collections of posts, maybe? All publicly accessible posts?  I think this just became number one on QuickSeller's List of Asinine Accusations. |
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For Vod I get the error:
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Are you trying to not-so-subtly imply that suchmoon is an alt of theymos?
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@DireWolfM14: is it possible someone was impersonating condoras? There's never been a verified signed message proving it's the real person.
Also: the Zip files contain many files, but Google Drive doesn't let me open messages.html. Can you upload it as text only somewhere? That is indeed possible. Now that I see the account I thought was Condoras' in the second group discussion has been deleted, and the one in the first is still there (and that's the one I contacted,) it seems quite plausible. The "Client" certainly could have started the second conversation posing as Condoras. I will add that the account only just got deleted minutes before I posted this reply. It leads me to suspect whoever is behind "Warum Loan Client" is here reading this topic. I've removed my negative tag. I now recognize it's impossible to prove that Condoras was part of the second group discussion titled "Escrow," and that's where all the really shady shit happened. Here are the discussions. The time stamp is based on UTC -8 (Pacific Standard Time.) First Conversation with the account I contacted: Antony️ 🏴☠️
14 November 2019
12:22
Dire Wolf
Hey Condoras, how are you?
12:23
I can cover that loan, but at 120% collateral, that amounts to 0.313 BTC for 55 LTC.
12:24
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Hey man, happy to see you
12:24
120% ofc by all means
12:24
i'm talking with this guy and waiting to reply
12:24
Dire Wolf
If you want to cover part of it, and I can cover the other part we can do it that way
12:24
Antony️ 🏴☠️
as soon as i have news from him, i will let you know
12:25
Dire Wolf
cool, thanks for allowing me to help
12:25
Antony️ 🏴☠️
In reply to this message
Idk if i can cover even a small part since i get scammed today from a "casino" my ass
12:25
Dire Wolf
oh shit, sorry to hear that
12:25
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Sorry for my language
12:26
Dire Wolf
what fucking language?
12:26
Antony️ 🏴☠️
In reply to this message
Yeap,i'm just almost fucked up
12:26
In reply to this message
Ahahaha
12:26
thx man, you make laugh a bit
12:27
So i thought it will be good someone from the ppl that i trust and do lending to get this, if it s legit and not some troll
12:27
How much interest you want me to say to him?
12:28
Dire Wolf
I appreciate it, thanks. My interest for collateral loan is 0.1% per day, 3% per month
12:30
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Ok
12:30
I send him a msg,wait for his reply. I hope to be true...
12:33
You will be here for a long time or you need to leave? I mean go to sleep or something else...
12:34
Idk your zone sorry
12:34
Dire Wolf
I'm at work, it's 12:33 in the afternoon for me
12:34
I do have a couple of meetings this afternoon, but I'll be around
12:34
Antony️ 🏴☠️
ok great
13:01
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Still no reply...😕
13:02
When i have a reply for him, i let you know man
13:51
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Here?
13:53
You want me to put you in our conversation with the client as the escrow of the deal ?
13:55
He is ok to use an escrow btw
13:59
Or you want me to present you as a partner of mine?
14:04
Dire Wolf
hey, sorry I was in a meeting away from my desk.
14:04
Antony️ 🏴☠️
My bad man
14:05
Dire Wolf
No worries, I'm going to be on and off for the next two hours or so
14:05
Antony️ 🏴☠️
So i will put you in our chat with the guy ok?
14:05
Dire Wolf
sounds good
14:07
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Warum Loan client
+381 63 869 6965
14:07
This is the guy
14:07
Idk how i can add you in the chat...
14:07
need to make a new one?
14:07
Dire Wolf
I think so, I've never done that
14:11
he's asking me about the fee, what should I tell him?
14:11
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Whatever i guess 0.5 or 1% tops is the current mid fee for escrow
14:16
He cant know who will loan him
14:17
So i think its better to know that is me that i loan him
14:17
Dire Wolf
okay, no problem
14:21
Antony️ 🏴☠️
See you tomorrow man and thx for the help
14:21
Dire Wolf
see you tomorrow
16:05
Dire Wolf
Hey, I need an address to send the coins, can you please sign a message? Second Conversation: Titled "Loan." Loan Deal
14 November 2019
Antony️ 🏴☠️ created group «Loan Deal» with members Antony️ 🏴☠️, Dire Wolf and Warum Loan client
14:08
Dire Wolf
Hello
14:08
Warum Loan client
Hi there
14:08
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Ok,all good i guess :-
14:09
Warum Loan client
So its about loan eth ltc
14:09
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Oh not BTC - LTC?
14:09
You insist on ETH loan?
14:09
Warum Loan client
Nope check msges
14:09
I mean that about we talked?
14:09
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Ok, my bad indeed...
14:10
I see them now, you want ETH
14:10
Dire its ok with you?
14:10
Dire Wolf
I'm sorry I don't have the ETH to cover that loan, I thought it was BTC
14:11
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Yes and i have problem with ETH too... 😞
14:11
Warum Loan client
Ehh will you have eth tomorow or today?
14:11
Or 2 3 days?
14:12
I can maybe take btc but tomorow i prefer eth
14:12
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Can we talk tomorrow then and check our availability on ETH?
14:13
Dire Wolf
unfortunately I won't have that much ETH, and no plans to
14:13
Warum Loan client
Alright so btc possible eth currently no okay
14:13
Ill probably need it tomorow
14:13
Btc one
14:14
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Btc is more easier for me and Dire as well aas you see
14:14
Besides we are from Bitcointalk...
14:14
Warum Loan client
But just one thing who will be escrow you or dire?and who loan me?
14:14
Dire Wolf
sorry guys, trying to participate in a meeting while I'm chatting
14:15
I'm not ignoring you
14:15
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Ok Dire
14:15
Warum Loan client
So just to confirm 3% interest ltc btc loan
14:15
?
14:15
Dire Wolf
correct
14:15
Antony️ 🏴☠️
per month
14:15
Warum Loan client
And you are escrow or dire
14:15
Repayment 29.12.19
14:16
Antony️ 🏴☠️
I prefer Dire to have the collateral
14:16
Warum Loan client
Oki so tomorrow we can make btc ltc loan right?
14:16
Dire Wolf
I will provide signed messages, and the collateral stays in the address the whole time, on my hardware wallet
14:17
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Sounds good to my ears
14:17
Warum Loan client
All good
14:18
I contact you anthony later ir tomorow for loan
14:18
Until later cya guys
14:18
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Due the "problem" of different time zones you want us to be ready tomorrow at spesific time for the deal?
14:18
Warum Loan client
Like 14 pm cet
14:19
Is that ok?
14:19
Antony️ 🏴☠️
I be here. Dire it's ok with you?
14:19
Dire Wolf
perfect
14:19
Warum Loan client
Okay cya guys
14:19
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Happy to talk to you both, see you tomorrow then Mr Warum
14:20
Warum Loan client
Too
14:20
Antony️ 🏴☠️
You can contact me here Mr Warum so Dire to see it as well
14:20
Thank you in advance
14:20
Warum Loan client
Also
14:21
Dire Wolf
thanks guys, see you tomorrow Third Conversation: (Second Group Discussion) Titled "Escrow." Escrow
14 November 2019
Warum Loan client created group «Escrow» with members Warum Loan client, Dire Wolf and Antony️ 🏴☠️
14:25
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Actually Dire , he want btc loan tonight.can you fill it? Same deal, 55ltc collateral
14:25
Warum Loan client
So repayment datw stay same 29.12.19 with 3% interest
14:26
Antony️ 🏴☠️
How much btc i get exact?
14:26
He*
14:27
Dire Wolf
I will be away from my computer for about an hour, is that okay?
14:27
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Np we will wait for you.but can you fill this loan tonight?
14:27
Warum Loan client
I will be here sure
14:27
Dire Wolf
Yeah, I can
14:28
Warum Loan client
Guys let me know ammount of btc i get exact
14:28
Okay so in 1h we maje this?
14:28
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Good, ill be also online @DireWolfM14 ping us when you are back
14:29
Dire Wolf
55 LTC will allow 0.313 BTC loan
14:29
Antony️ 🏴☠️
55 Ltc -20% in Btc equal ammount
14:29
Thats right 0.313
14:29
Warum Loan client
Oki seems fine i wait you guys
14:29
So not now in 1h?
14:30
Thatw 00 30 cet ?
14:31
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Not correct in minute but @DireWolfM14 comes ~
14:37
Dire Wolf
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256
LTC collateral address for Warum's loan:
MVb8iPpHQrjEKdj1gDo9MvxPTP3Yr2ycYL
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEj+SnoCiYCpIUPy6Tb8DUkPoYYbgFAl3N1yEACgkQb8DUkPoY
YbinVAf+Ll6LR+P45khHZrCV/j96FITNf7/1CPS0ftSCFsVs0vtfj8XA0JNAM+JV
CcT/1iGrHrJdjRGZt+pPjQs+UrT2k0+SX661T0J1syZQkfZvcqzu+WDqjjR2s532
zhWG9IENyK+ChN9LBK7zziflQS5WTbCCR5M84wtcJfdWUiK/WY4ZWWtzziriLmWO
NDNaz/6N8fqWELFQ94MA61lsl42zp6mmDKBalyV0nYCXvi5PyILinJ3OQmAn6dNM
KCI/p2ik3DVnQatT1VXZbStzN/skluGQKTWJ3FP2T0mia/MDdKztM0l23L4xjvxD
kT3Da97ROFWEeJmmdjTW65SoVkN89A==
=zX+Z
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
14:38
PGP Fingerprint: 8FE4A7A028980A92143F2E936FC0D490FA1861B8
14:38
You can verify at keybase
14:40
Warum Loan client
Oki can we proceed now?
14:40
Dire Wolf
I'm still in a meeting, but should be done in about 20 minutes
14:41
Warum Loan client
Ok i wait here
14:41
Dire Wolf
looks like my other meeting got cancelled, but maybe not
14:42
Antony️ 🏴☠️
I m also active more 1h so i guees we will finish this tonight
14:43
As Mr Warum ask he demand you sending BTC to my wallet, he check txid, than he send collateral to you.this is totally fine for me , but say me Dire is this okay with you?
14:44
I understand him as its high value but we are old loaners and btctalk members, anyway Warum i think this should be not problem but wait for Dire to come back
14:45
Warum Loan client
So this is my first time taking loan i send collateral to this adress up?
14:45
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Yes the one Dire sent you
14:46
But wait he come back from meeting
14:46
Dire Wolf
hey guys, I have to step away for a bit, I'll be back in about 40 minutes. So sorry, usually it's not this crazy around here, lol
14:47
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Np you r welcome
14:47
Warum Loan client
Is this for sure 40min? Just asking
14:48
Antony️ 🏴☠️
I guees he said before 20mins , 1 hour he need so it will be arround 40min .Dire take your time if Mr Warum can wait
14:53
Warum Loan client
Ill wait say me when all rdy also whats repayment adress
15:07
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Dire will provide you repayment adress
15:22
Warum Loan client
Im online guys and waiting ready just to know
15:45
Dire Wolf
hey guys, work day is finaly over, I'm here for you
15:45
sorry about the delay
15:45
Antony️ 🏴☠️
No problem take your time so
15:46
So as you wish you Mr Warum, Dire will release btc to me.You will send 55lLtc to him ,once he confirm ,you will receive BTC . 3% monthly interest + 0.5% escrow fees. Dire will provide you repayment adress
15:46
Warum Loan client
Im here also
15:46
Rdy
15:47
Dire Wolf
I'll send you a signed message from the address with the coins
15:47
Warum Loan client
So when dire send to you btc i send ltc to adress he said right?
15:47
Ye but i prefer that i know btc is at him
15:47
Antony️ 🏴☠️
I think we can make it like he ask but he will cover double transaction fees
15:47
If you agree Dire we can start now
15:48
Warum Loan client
Ok np i cover that fees
15:48
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256
LTC collateral address for Warum's loan:
MVb8iPpHQrjEKdj1gDo9MvxPTP3Yr2ycYL
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEj+SnoCiYCpIUPy6Tb8DUkPoYYbgFAl3N1yEACgkQb8DUkPoY
YbinVAf+Ll6LR+P45khHZrCV/j96FITNf7/1CPS0ftSCFsVs0vtfj8XA0JNAM+JV
CcT/1iGrHrJdjRGZt+pPjQs+UrT2k0+SX661T0J1syZQkfZvcqzu+WDqjjR2s532
zhWG9IENyK+ChN9LBK7zziflQS5WTbCCR5M84wtcJfdWUiK/WY4ZWWtzziriLmWO
NDNaz/6N8fqWELFQ94MA61lsl42zp6mmDKBalyV0nYCXvi5PyILinJ3OQmAn6dNM
KCI/p2ik3DVnQatT1VXZbStzN/skluGQKTWJ3FP2T0mia/MDdKztM0l23L4xjvxD
kT3Da97ROFWEeJmmdjTW65SoVkN89A==
=zX+Z
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
15:49
Here i send ltc?
15:49
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Thats right, Dire do you agree to start?
15:49
Dire Wolf
sure, that's ok with me, Condoras, can you send me a signed message on the forum for the address?
15:50
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Sure why not . i know that this is not how usually works loan but he inssist
15:50
There is attached to my profile
15:50
Warum Loan client
Im waiting you guys i got ltc
15:50
Dire Wolf
ok, great
15:51
In reply to this message
yes, here: MVb8iPpHQrjEKdj1gDo9MvxPTP3Yr2ycYL
15:51
Warum Loan client
Ok
15:51
Antony️ 🏴☠️
qrqcf7ymhg55u0t9pcexj9k8qrrd3hu385uxj9hu5u , but Warum you will receive btc when Dire confirm ltc
15:52
Warum Loan client
Ok i know im ok with it
15:53
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Btw Warum you can check my and Dire feedback , there is no need for this complication as you lose transaction fees
15:53
Anyway you pay it so repayment 29.12.19 3% interest
15:54
@DireWolfM14 provide you repayment adrress
15:54
Warum Loan client
All clear
15:54
I just need txid so i see btc is real and im on sending ltc
15:54
Sry its high value for me
15:55
Dire Wolf
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is DireWolfM14 confirming funds
14 NOV 2019
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
33rhSk8iYGzkwDWSjYEWaRR4nf2bW9Zpqa
H96d7fXLHPrU1Ib0nqahnD12GQJjI8nd7LMjSdVCmxLGERLmDh2YXhV1hdljz25dwjFbl0ADGMoluJEoWAEh0bU=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
15:55
this is the address with the coin
15:55
you may have to use Electrum to verify
15:56
this will be repayment address: 348XXjbpXwg37JYd8knLnHRSMajLbteSbJ
15:56
Warum Loan client
I never done this before idk how i check
15:56
Ok repayment got it
15:56
Dire Wolf
do you have electrum?
15:56
Warum Loan client
Nope but i may make it
15:56
Why
15:57
Dire Wolf
it's a desktop wallet, it will allow you to check the signed message
15:57
Antony️ 🏴☠️
@DireWolfM14 i think its simpliest to make as he want as all long night he ask for this demand
15:58
Dire Wolf
no problem, I can send to condoras
15:58
Antony️ 🏴☠️
But only when ltc have all confirmation i will release btc to you Warum
15:58
Warum Loan client
Ye thats all i need ti see txid and all good
15:58
Warum Loan client
Dire Wolf 14.11.2019 15:58:11
no problem, I can send to condoras
15:59
Antony️ 🏴☠️
@DireWolfM14 here it is: 1s1yBtD16SurC1x8QAWnQswwnT5oS6fAd feel free to put transaction fees to high due time as he cover it
16:00
Warum Loan client
So 3% plus 0.5% or just 3%?
16:01
Dire Wolf
since I'll be holding the collateral, it's just 3%, but I have to take tx fees from the LTC when I send back
16:01
Warum Loan client
Fine
16:01
What if i pay befire 29.12? Different interest?
16:01
Antony️ 🏴☠️
3% per month
16:02
Dire Wolf
0.1% per day, so if you pay early I'll calculate it to the day
16:02
Warum Loan client
Oki that is fine
16:02
Dire Wolf
all my info is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132594.msg50633585#msg50633585
16:03
repayment address is also on that page
16:03
Warum Loan client
Im waiting for you guys ,so when i send ltc i wait until all confirm than i receive btc from condoras?
16:03
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Correct
16:05
Warum Loan client
Ok so im rdy all conditions are fine
16:05
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Alright wait for txid as you wish as Dire use physical wallet need little time
16:07
Warum Loan client
Ok so i send yoy now my btc adress where you send me after ltc right
16:08
Dire Wolf
you can send it now
16:08
Warum Loan client
Ok sec , so can we proceeed?
16:09
Im just waiting for you guys
16:09
Antony️ 🏴☠️
@DireWolfM14 how long you need ?
16:09
Dire Wolf
I'm sorry I got confused, I need an address
16:10
condoras, can you please send me a signed message with the address on the forum?
16:10
Warum Loan client
Hah i understand he want another way of loan
16:11
Yes sure but just one second isnt it easier like always to make loan? Usually Warum we proceed like send collateral get loan no txid and so
16:11
This is what cond wrote me
16:12
I am couruous as its high value for me
16:12
I just wanna really know its all legit
16:12
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Antony️ 🏴☠️ 14.11.2019 15:59:59
@DireWolfM14 here it is: 1s1yBtD16SurC1x8QAWnQswwnT5oS6fAd feel free to put transaction fees to high due time as he cover it
16:13
Antony️ 🏴☠️
There is signed on my profle check
16:13
Dire Wolf
no address in your profile:
16:13
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=740502
16:14
Warum Loan client
Or even make txid with 10% of loan so i can see your current walet stat
16:14
This is also ok for me
16:14
Dire Wolf
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/33rhSk8iYGzkwDWSjYEWaRR4nf2bW9Zpqa
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ok, how about this; I send you 0.0001 BTC to your wallet, then you send the LTC, then I send the rest, ok?
16:16
Warum Loan client
From same wallet?
16:16
Dire Wolf
yes, of course
16:16
Warum Loan client
Or like send 0.001 to cond and post txid im alsi ok with it
16:17
Dire Wolf
that works too
16:17
Warum Loan client
Fine for me just wanna see txid
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And can y resend me ltc adress
16:19
Dire Wolf
8897eccf11c3e6ddb5735726053ce7df8c9a6821d009c4a127289e7850b91d23
16:19
Warum Loan client
Hmm but how can i be sure you have all btc i want to loan 0.001 is like 10usd. I just checked and my loan is near 3k usd
16:20
Sec i check txid
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Can we just make like i asked before? Once i see cond really have all btc for my loan im instant sending ltc
16:21
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Ah @DireWolfM14 i said hes too complicated
16:22
But lets just finish this.once more you will cover all transaction fees
16:22
Dire Wolf
Condoras, I'm not seeing this address on the forum: 1s1yBtD16SurC1x8QAWnQswwnT5oS6fAd
16:23
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Btw warum check my and dire adress we have big volume trade
16:23
I can sing it np but this goes too complicated
16:24
Dire Wolf
I think I'm going to back out of this deal, I'm sorry but I'm not comfortable with what's going on.
16:24
Warum Loan client
What about he sent 0.01 btc i send equal ltc and small stepz
16:24
This is fine?
16:24
I know sry guys i lost 300usd yesterday
16:25
Antony️ 🏴☠️
If you go out im gonna refund but maybe wecan do this last?
16:25
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Warum Loan client 14.11.2019 16:24:22
What about he sent 0.01 btc i send equal ltc and small stepz
16:25
Antony️ 🏴☠️
@DireWolfM14 i think this is reasonable
16:26
Warum Loan client
I lost 300usd yesterday seeking loan thatz why i do this
16:26
Antony️ 🏴☠️
If you agree last one dire we can go otherwise we cancel i refund your btc
16:28
Dire Wolf
Yeah, I think I would rather cancel. I'm sorry I'm just not comfortable with this anymore
16:28
Antony️ 🏴☠️
We understand but this is not how usuallt works
16:28
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Warum Loan client 14.11.2019 16:26:19
I lost 300usd yesterday seeking loan thatz why i do this
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Antony️ 🏴☠️
Sorry Warum trade is canceled
16:28
Warum Loan client
Hmmm......
16:28
I wait wholw day but ok
16:29
Is there any way we can go?
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I rly need
16:29
Dire Wolf
make an account on the forum, and post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132594.msg50633585#msg50633585
16:30
Antony️ 🏴☠️
@DireWolfM14 can you cover 0.005 btc to me? I repay in 2days i am gonna giv3 him loan with all i have
16:30
Dire Wolf
but you have to be willing to send the collateral directly to me first. I'm sorry but that's the only way I will proceed.
16:30
Warum Loan client
Let me read about this on forum
16:31
Antony️ 🏴☠️
?
16:31
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Antony️ 🏴☠️ 14.11.2019 16:30:09
@DireWolfM14 can you cover 0.005 btc to me? I repay in 2days i am gonna giv3 him loan with all i have
16:32
Antony️ 🏴☠️
Willing to share 60% of my interest with you
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Let me know
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And if not sendme your refund adress
16:37
Dire Wolf
you can send back here, I'll cover the tx fees, slow is fine: 348XXjbpXwg37JYd8knLnHRSMajLbteSbJ |
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I did but i don't see pics or the msgs itself. Can you make a pic of the msg that i say to you to send me the funds first? Interesting, all of the sudden both accounts seem to have been deleted.   |
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Sorry but i can't see any of them. Can you please post them as a link?
The "client" account in Telegram has been deleted, but the conversions are still there. The files I posted are the backups, you'll have to download the zip file, and extract the conversation from the directories included. [ Archive] |
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Well it seems like the TOM guy is me, because i contact DW for a loan that i couldnt fill about 55 LTC! Some things though here is very innaccurate like that i want to scam (!!!) DW. So let's take things step by step: 1: I get a message from a guy who has a username with another member here in TG. I saw it so i figure that probably was the same person, which now i really dought. He write to me that he wants a loan on BTC or ETH. So far so good from my side, the problem though was that i havent in my hot wallet the amount that this guy asked. https://imgur.com/bYrJT37. 2: Because of my recent loss due i fall to a scam site, i think to contact another "fellow" lender around that can probably fill it or cooperate with me on it. So i keep talking with the client and explain things, like how much collateral must have etc. The guy though vanish for a while. https://imgur.com/R349Oxm3: At that time i contact DW since he is one of the members here and especialy in Lending section that i believe he is trusted enough. I didn't say to him though that i want ANY kind of amount from this deal (lending funds or collateral funds) in my wallets. So for bettet communication i make a group with the 3 of us,. Client (Warum the "name"), me and DW. In this chat i specificaly said that the collateral funds will be held by DW and NOT ME. https://imgur.com/FkPnNUTWhy? But because if i cant fill it all then i preffer the other part/ cooperateror/ time partner not to EVEN think that i'm tring to do whatever. Think DW miss this msg... 4. The group chat ended with the agreement to chat again the next day at 14:00' CET. https://imgur.com/3dt8P8jDue my health problems (for sometime now, some members here knows about it) i was unable to loggin at that time, so i missed the meeting and i get on it later. Then i see that Warum delete his account... I check group chat and no new msg and Warum was missing from the group. Instead i have a msg from DW asking me where to send the funds (!) and i was very surpise by that since we didnt say that i will get ANY KIND OF FUNDS from either of them (DW and Warum) and i ask him about what funds he is talking about. https://imgur.com/dk9zniPMy question to DW and to all others who see it as a scam try is this: Why to do this since i didnt ask any amount of funds and the only % that i want to take was the escrow fee, IF any escrow fee occured. Nothing more and nothing less. Perhaps the thing that i dont want to loss possible clients, seems too much. But we all know that having clients with a valid collateral is more than rare these days and thats why any income will do, at least for me. I also dont want to write more than i can or to see this as an act of drama but it will be good/ better to talk before you judge so easilly. And no, my name is not Tom! EDIT: P.S I'm not mention the fact that i never say to DW to send first, in any case. I'm being in Lending so much time to say something like this...  First I want to say that I appreciate you responding, which I feel is a big step for taking accountability. Second, I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with your assessment of the situation. I did back up the chat-log, and I'll post links for everyone to see. At this point I think it's fair for the community to decide.
Here are my back-ups from Telegram. I've included a signature for the Zip file. Zip file with the Telegram conversations: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VRSaHgAYds2aJhIz-gz89bXCaQDdGU0XPGP signature for the zip file: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MX1rfff7C3hyqS8I25j0bf7lXXvLrmZ8 |
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Just why can't the mods delete this already? Isn't it obvious? Or are they still giving the OP to defend his Site and Thread??? This is totally ridiculous?! Because scams aren't moderated. There's no definitive way for the mods to confirm the validity of the OP's claims, and as such it's left up to us. I agree it's an obvious scam site, the sig-campaign is also an obvious scam that won't pay it's participants. But how can we expect the mods to react to this without investing time that's outside their scope, and without bias? It's best if we keep things like this policed by the community, and so far it seems to be working. |
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How much was asked for? The offer was for 55 LTC as collateral, which calculated to 0.313 BTC. I never saw proof of the collateral, but since I wasn't willing to send first, I didn't ask for proof. I'd say you should tag the account. You may not have definite proof, but from your story you're convinced it's either a scam attempt, or a compromised account. Both scenarios deserve a tag. The lack of evidence might not be enough for others to tag TOM too, but should be enough for your own tag.
I was thinking a neutral tag would be appropriate, since I didn't really get scammed. Although I did send the dust to his address, which is yet to be returned (I offered to pay the Tx fees.) I have asked TOM to respond here here and address this thread if he wants. I would rather wait for his response (or lack of) before tagging him. The Other Member.. sent me a PM asking me to connect with him on Telegram Stop right there. I must admit I find Telegram to be quite convenient for some discussions. I've used it to communicate with other members of the forum without issue. |
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