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41  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] DiceBitco.in Signature Campaign - Continued Again... on: September 26, 2014, 12:21:07 PM

If I wanted to leave now can I still get paid up to what I did?
42  Other / Politics & Society / Re: America's richest and poorest states on: September 25, 2014, 06:47:07 PM
Now, interestingly, here, in a ranking of worse to best state economies, Alaska was rated worse (despite its ranking in the OP for rich status). The oil thing must be oil and natural gas, otherwise Alaska wouldn't be 3rd.
43  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shocking Breakdown Of McDonalds Budget on: September 25, 2014, 05:14:30 PM
That's the McDonals corporation and not each individually owned franchise and you can bet that the corp employees are paid far more than the burger flippers at each store, so whoever made up the numbers has no fricken clue what they're talking about.
44  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do You Believe The Bible To Be Historically Accurate? on: September 25, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
I am not religious so whether it is accurate of not, it makes no difference to me. The bible is a collection of stories teaching christian ways, it is not a history text book.
Anway, for me:
Yes, not only is it accurate, but its value is dependent on its accuracy.  The whole thing rises and falls on whether or not the physical death and resurrection of Jesus is historically true - it is the center, the foundation, of the Christian faith.

if the Bible is not historically accurate, then the faith is worthless.


Now, interestingly, there are those who believe the Bible is historically accurate, but, dont care.  They have no interest in acting on its message.
45  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do You Believe The Bible To Be Historically Accurate? on: September 25, 2014, 03:03:02 PM
Someone might believe the Bible is historically accurate, but it does not matter to them, or believe it it is not historically accruate, but it does matter to them - but there is nothing to select for that.
46  Economy / Services / Re: Pocket Dice Signature Campaign on: September 25, 2014, 02:40:46 PM
can I reserve here I wanna join but i have 5 days left I will see if they let me leave the campaign and get paid
47  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] DiceBitco.in Signature Campaign - Continued Again... on: September 25, 2014, 01:24:02 PM
5 more days left and u will pay people I guess, seems like people here forgot,  I dont see them saying about paying anyone

Thanks Z for posting I almost forgot about the campaign even though i wear the sig.  So Im guessing  a couple more days we will get paid,   I kinda wonder how many people are left in the campaign?
48  Economy / Services / Re: Pocket Dice Signature Campaign on: September 25, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
they should only take full members and up
49  Economy / Services / Closed on: September 25, 2014, 01:19:53 PM
Closed
50  Other / Off-topic / Re: EXODUS on: September 24, 2014, 05:50:55 PM
I think we can all think of examples, particular those of us with significant others, who find out that they are quite angry with us when we do something wrong.  And I mean justifiably so.

And, what we do is focus on that very last thing we did, and forget the things that may have led up to it over the weeks, and/or have ignored the warning signs, etc.  And we start thinking - all this over that one thing?


Or someone is let go from their job, over one incident, but, in reality, it was an accumulation of incidents that we refused to learn from.
God chose the people; they didn't choose Him.  They followed out of fear, for He after all those plagues, was to be feared. Captivity was no fun but it looked better at times than the constant wandering, and even though they had with the offered wealth of Egypt.   40 years wandering, following fire and cloud.  Must have seemed endless, and was for those who began the journey.    

Just not catching the merciful God image, at this point in my reading.
51  Other / Off-topic / Re: EXODUS on: September 24, 2014, 05:31:22 PM
It is a testimony to how sinful we can be, and how we prefer even to cling to our sin.

Note also that these people, though unable to enter the promised land, were still provided for by God - that was mercy also.
Pitcairn Island.  The most Godly people on the planet, actually sought after by ship's captains and captains of industry everywhere.  One of the deserters of Mutiny of the Bounty fame is credited with giving rise to such a people.  He read the bible and taught from it, so it's a good survival manual.
52  Other / Off-topic / Re: EXODUS on: September 24, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
It took 40 years to have all the disobedient ones die; only their descendants could see the promised land.  That was the punishment for slipping back to their old ways, collecting their gold to form the calf.  No mercy for being new to the faith, back in the day.
In the face of some obvious miracles time and time again, starting in Egypt - yeah, again they acted in disbelief.  Plenty of mercy had been shown prior to this, given their numerous failures already.  It was not just this failure out of the blue.

And, the discipline worked for a time - the people who were finally led into the promise land by Joshua and Caleb were extremely faithful.  For a time anyway; come the book of Judges, they again fall even into deeper sin.
The logistics of moving that many people must have been a nightmare.  They suffered and reverted and God didn't let them into the Promised Land.
53  Other / Off-topic / Re: EXODUS on: September 24, 2014, 05:11:51 PM
It took 40 years to have all the disobedient ones die; only their descendants could see the promised land.  That was the punishment for slipping back to their old ways, collecting their gold to form the calf.  No mercy for being new to the faith, back in the day.
54  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do we defeat ISIS without U.S. Ground Troops? on: September 24, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
I'm not necessarily opposed to it depending on what the intended result was. I'm not overly keen on installing puppet governments any more than incompetent ones. I think Maliki was intended to be a puppet, but ended up being incompetent. I think it's a critical error trying to install western style democracies in places that have no interest and no philosophical basis for the concept. I think the world is best off to leave people to fight their own battles, while offering support for groups that have rational, humanitarian objectives. By support, I mean trade support. I don't mean military support.

I also recognize the problem of others offering military support. But there aren't easy answers to that when the US changes foreign policy concepts every 4-8 years.
55  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do we defeat ISIS without U.S. Ground Troops? on: September 24, 2014, 04:50:40 PM
Maliki initially refused to go because he knew, in the end, we would protect him no matter how much we disapproved of him. When that protection left and we made our return help conditional upon his stepping down, only then did he leave office. We saw this before with the Habre administration in Chad with France. Pretty similar situation. Sometimes having physical presences and guaranteeing the safety of the central government prevents the reform necessary for the country to evolve its political institutions or seek better governance / a compromise that will help promote peace and inclusiveness in the long run.

Sometimes, unfortunately, there is very little that one can constructively do when it comes to intervention in foreign domestic disputes.
This is the part I take issue with. I believe Obama let the situation deteriorate intentionally. I'm not necessarily opposed to him doing that, by the way.
Via inaction, poor action, or both?

I'm also curious what you mean by 'intentionally', but most of all I want know why you wouldn't be opposed to that.

Thanks in advance for answering my silly questions.
Inaction mostly. Possibly because he was trying to change the government there, but I can't say for sure. I say intentionally, because he always seems to have an agenda for what he does. So I give the benefit of the doubt.
56  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do we defeat ISIS without U.S. Ground Troops? on: September 24, 2014, 04:47:00 PM
Motivation? There are too many possibilities. I doubt the intent was specifically what happened, but the long term probability is that something would overthrow the essentially unstable government that Bush created. I learned long ago not to try and assign motivations to people with much more inside information than I have.
57  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do we defeat ISIS without U.S. Ground Troops? on: September 24, 2014, 04:37:42 PM
Maliki initially refused to go because he knew, in the end, we would protect him no matter how much we disapproved of him. When that protection left and we made our return help conditional upon his stepping down, only then did he leave office. We saw this before with the Habre administration in Chad with France. Pretty similar situation. Sometimes having physical presences and guaranteeing the safety of the central government prevents the reform necessary for the country to evolve its political institutions or seek better governance / a compromise that will help promote peace and inclusiveness in the long run.

Sometimes, unfortunately, there is very little that one can constructively do when it comes to intervention in foreign domestic disputes.
This is the part I take issue with. I believe Obama let the situation deteriorate intentionally. I'm not necessarily opposed to him doing that, by the way.
What makes you believe that and what motivation would you see in that?
Because it seems pretty obvious that the results of not keeping a significant force in Iraq would eventually lead to collapse one way or the other. The only thing that is surprising is the speed, not the result. To tell Maliki that he would keep a couple thousand troops made it impossible to get the agreement required. It would have been suicide for him, so he made his bed with Iran.
58  Other / Off-topic / Re: EXODUS on: September 24, 2014, 04:12:36 PM
Because it seems pretty obvious that the results of not keeping a significant force in Iraq would eventually lead to collapse one way or the other. The only thing that is surprising is the speed, not the result. To tell Maliki that he would keep a couple thousand troops made it impossible to get the agreement required. It would have been suicide for him, so he made his bed with Iran.
59  Other / Off-topic / Re: EXODUS on: September 24, 2014, 04:12:00 PM
God shows great mercy to people who insist on sinning even if humans don't believe it or  Him.
I don't know about that, after all He made them wander around for 40 years until the last of them died before letting their descendants enter the land he had promised.  And, don't forget the two sons of Aaron he killed instantly for a breach of ceremony.   Not too merciful with Moses either when after all Moses had done or tried to do, He only let him see but not set foot in the holy land.  I'm still not certain why Moses was even being punished, unless it was for being inept at handling all those people.   Maybe the whole story is a lesson in fear.  Fear doesn't work, except in the short term, and that's why God keeps losing them to their old  traditions and faith.
60  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do we defeat ISIS without U.S. Ground Troops? on: September 24, 2014, 03:53:58 PM
Maliki initially refused to go because he knew, in the end, we would protect him no matter how much we disapproved of him. When that protection left and we made our return help conditional upon his stepping down, only then did he leave office. We saw this before with the Habre administration in Chad with France. Pretty similar situation. Sometimes having physical presences and guaranteeing the safety of the central government prevents the reform necessary for the country to evolve its political institutions or seek better governance / a compromise that will help promote peace and inclusiveness in the long run.

Sometimes, unfortunately, there is very little that one can constructively do when it comes to intervention in foreign domestic disputes.
This is the part I take issue with. I believe Obama let the situation deteriorate intentionally. I'm not necessarily opposed to him doing that, by the way.
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