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1021  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think humans will eventually evolve into robots? on: June 28, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
back in the 1960's and 70's predictions about where we would be in 20 to 40 years by the turn of the millennium were portrayed in films like 2001 a space odyssey and many others

truth turned out that we made shit slow progress in space and with fuck all money, won't be doing much significant for the future yet

same with robots, don't hold yer breath for much happening in the next 30 or so years up to 2050, it won't be like it currently is in Hollywood films about all the robot shit
1022  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think humans will eventually evolve into robots? on: June 28, 2014, 02:07:17 PM
rather than get too fancy with super brains and computers, first of all it is just a matter of getting a half decent robot prototype like asimo that can run about and maybe climb and stuff, then sticking a man's brain into it, that controls it properly, without the brain being rejected

this is still too advanced for the boffins yet, so they may have to start with a whole man's head and spinal column, lungs, heart and all the basics, to get a functional crossbred robot / man type combination.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASIMO
1023  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Antarctic's glacial melt - volcanoes, or global warming? on: June 28, 2014, 01:37:37 PM
The Antarctic serves as an illustration just hard it is to accurately determine what damage, if any, is caused by the slight rise in temperatures that has occurred over the past century or so - as well as what might be causing the slight rise.

And how easy it is, given politics, to jump on the bandwagon of 'global warming'.

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A new study by researchers at the University of Texas, Austin found that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is collapsing due to geothermal heat, not man-made global warming.

Researchers from the UTA’s Institute for Geophysics found that the Thwaites Glacier in western Antarctica is being eroded by the ocean as well as geothermal heat from magma and subaerial volcanoes. Thwaites is considered a key glacier for understanding future sea level rise.

UTA researchers used radar techniques to map water flows under ice sheets and estimate the rate of ice melt in the glacier. As it turns out, geothermal heat from magma and volcanoes under the glacier is much hotter and covers a much wider area than was previously thought.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/11/study-west-antarctic-glacier-melt-due-to-volcanoes-not-global-warming/
This is exactly why generalizations, and simplified alarmist hysteria about "global warming" must be viewed with skepticism.  A line of volcanoes under glaciers could just as easily have ocean currents that moved the generated warmer water away from the glaciers as toward them.  Yes, there are volcanoes down there; yes, they generate immense amounts of heat, but what exactly is their effect?
Those volcanoes are going to melt some ice and put more fresh water into the oceans. This might undermine the thermo haline circulation system and we will have cooling any way. In any case it has nothing to do with people or CO2 and it can’t be stopped any way.
1024  Other / Off-topic / It's not the pet, it's the irresponsible pet owner on: June 28, 2014, 01:22:01 PM
What is wrong with people that won't take responsibility for their animals? 

I know we have many animal lovers in here; even when we can't stand one another for a thousand other reasons, we can at least come together on that; our pets deserve to be protected, and that includes training, leashing and confining, vaccinating, microchipping them or otherwise being sure they're tagged if lost....the whole thing.  It's how we love them, if we truly do.

This is yet another pit bull attack story.  I don't know if it's a breed 'trait' or not, and I guess that could be part of the story and any discussion, but the relevant fact is, he was loose in a front yard as my daughter walked her tiny teacup chihuahua past on his leash.  The pit simply charged at her little guy, came out of nowhere, grabbed him up by the neck and started spinning with him.  A nightmare.  Long story short, my daughter was also bitten and injured (trip to the ER)  trying to get "Stewie" out of his mouth, but Stewie's now partially paralyzed with vertebrae fracture and spinal crush injuries.  She has no vet insurance, and the costs for extensive neurodiagnostics and surgery are prohibitive.  It's looking like the little guy will have to be put down.

I don't know where I'm going with this.  I'm just furious and venting.   
1025  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are political parties necessary? on: June 27, 2014, 06:02:06 PM
I think Zolace has made some good points and has expressed them without anger. I don't think I will be running to join the Tea party anytime soon but his views along with bones deserve thinking about.
Thank you.
You can't really 'run to join the tea party' because there is no where to run to.  There is no headquarters, no address, no leader, no spokesman... nothing.  If you agree with some or all of the platform, you are as much a part of the movement as anyone else is.  If you fancy a little more organization, there are local groups across the country but most of us don't bother.

Happily, there are no dues, no dress code, no secret hand shake or anything else.  Just support politicians who at least claim they want to repay the debt, or butt out of other nations wars, or stop snooping upon the entire world... that sort of thing.  Doesn't matter if they claim to be democrat or republican or green or libertarian or Pastafarian.

When they inevitably betray you, and they will, you abandon them and vote for someone else next time.
I see that you only listed part of what the tea party or libertarians stand for.  Libertarians believe in open borders according to their platform. But according to what has been posted on this board is the idea that we should take away the safety net for many people in this country and I guess just let them starve.  And someone can say that isn't radical. I guess it would only be radical if the republicans and their guns just went out and shot those little kids with extended bellies.
1026  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts on religion for a Sunday morning on: June 27, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
I just want to add this......... I believe that having a specific religion is not important, the important things are our actions, not our words. Anybody can talk a good game. As the Dalai Lama once said, "I have one religion....... 'kindness' ". Sincere kindness is a deep word, it covers all the altruistic things you mention and more. Sincerity is key as well. This can be attributed to all religions I'm aware of. 

The key seems to be either a belief that there is something greater than ourselves in this universe or there is not. I have come to believe that there definitely is, I just don't believe this inconceivable power is a god. But I don't have any problem calling it God. What this power is will be conceived differently by each one of us. 

Personally, I don't fear or praise it, I embrace it and I realize it is much more powerful than any of us. Then it becomes what is your definition of power in this realm............
1027  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: June 27, 2014, 05:55:46 PM
What I would really like to know out of all this is how the obviously unreliable computers at the IRS seem to manage to keep up with my tax liabilities. Their machines seem obsessively able to monitor my income and withholding and deductions without a single glitch. Can I have my next returns sent to Ms. Lerner's, or the other 6 hapless bureaucrats', computer? Please?
1028  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: June 27, 2014, 02:58:27 PM
I've never heard of a pc having he ability to erase anything from the back up server. When your computer crashes you lose everything you did from the last backup not everything in the back up server. If you read the email lerner sent to IT support regarding her crash it appears that the IRS thought they could sell that email as an excuse for not turning over the data. It would also be interesting to see the email in response to the crash and what IT was able to do to resolve the issue and get her data back. Even at GM every IT call is recorded with a complete detailing of the cause, the fix and the end result, I can't believe the gubment isn't that thorough in documentation. So where is the record of repair and the statement that lerner managed to erase all her outgoing emails from all the servers when it appears she wasn't even in email when the crash occurred?
1029  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: June 27, 2014, 02:27:57 PM
Exactly!  Over the weekend, there was nothing from the MSM.  Yet, I heard at least five reports about Hillary's book signing at Costco, where Sonia Sotomayer just happened to show up.  That news?
1030  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The war on drugs killed my daughter on: June 27, 2014, 02:10:00 PM
The deeper reason for such tragedies is this: all parents make the assumption that their own children will not die of a drug overdose, that their own children will not be raped, and that their own children -when they are adults- will not have to get by on zero-hours contracts. In other words, parents universally look at the world through rose-tinted glasses, hence collectively too little is done to reduce drug deaths, rape, and zero-hours contracts. Instead of tending to the real problems at their doorsteps, parents are distracted into supporting destructive foreign policies: wars against foreign countries (Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya), free-trade agreements that transfer power to multinational corporates and unelected commissions.
1031  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Naughty Russian Police Women Need Discipline on: June 27, 2014, 01:36:00 PM
Great photo - I think it must be fairly easy to paste the word ПОЛИЦИЯ (police) on to photo of a group of ladies wearing dark blue skirts. Love the heels, though.
1032  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Super Baby caught on tape on: June 27, 2014, 01:14:26 PM
This child has more morals, courage and bravery that all the people standing around watching the "show" How absolutely pathetic we humans have become!!!! Not one person came to her aid... they should all be charged for aiding in an attack!!! THIS is off the chart in my opinion. So WRONG...
1033  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is time a circle? on: June 27, 2014, 01:07:47 PM
Actually this theory is pretty decent. Although you would have no knowledge of living a 2nd time?
Else you would have influence on everything.
I think that i read in some orthodox-christian book,that in our souls, know what we have to do on earth,our journey here,but in the moment we born an angel "wipe"all the knowledge we have ,and from here the "deja vu " moments.........
1034  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are political parties necessary? on: June 27, 2014, 12:14:24 PM
I think Zolace has made some good points and has expressed them without anger. I don't think I will be running to join the Tea party anytime soon but his views along with bones deserve thinking about.
For that many millions of our Tea Party Supporters are truly grateful. You have proven yourself as a Rabid, Radical, Extremist, Collectivist Liberal FOOL! We, SO thankfully welcome your absence!Anyone who claims to 'speak for the party', doesn't.
1035  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are political parties necessary? on: June 27, 2014, 11:52:19 AM
There's some good things in the Communist manifesto but look at what the followers did to it. Ideals are meaningless unless people follow them. The way I read the Tea party they mostly hate their fellow conservative and want to shut the government down if they can`t get what they want.
I didn't note anything good in the communist manifesto when last I read it... a few decades ago now, I suppose.  Perhaps I should re-read it? 
It's puzzling to me that you seem to prefer to believe what you are told by much of the news media rather than what you are told by actual participants in the movement.

The government never 'shut down', it barely even slowed down and in many cases it actually spent more money endulging in temper tantrums.  Similar is true of the fabled 'sequester' where unka sam had a hissy fit about increasing spending only 4% instead of the 5% he demanded.

Both the shut down and the sequester never happened, meaning they never happened in the way that most of the media portrayed them.

We're over $17 trillion dollars in debt.  We have a government engaged in perpetual warfare and snooping upon the entire world.  We have a ss/medicare bomb going off.

It will either stop by deliberate action or it will continue until utter collapse.

Personally, I doubt unka sam has the wit, wisdom or will to curtail his gluttony.
Oh but they do.  The banks and corporations can't take over the government without willing and equally greedy and corrupt pols to do the actual dirty work.  The more power we give to government, the more that power will be misused, bought and sold to the highest bidder 
1036  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: June 27, 2014, 11:06:31 AM
The absence of information is the proof of conspiracy. Wow, amazing thought process there.

Then there is this other idea...how about if we send in investigators to find the e-mails of the recipients of the e-mails. And, along the way, identify and prosecute those who destroyed e-mails.

I have no interest of protecting anyone who committed a crime, but a lot of interset in not setting aside reason in the process.

Lois Lerner should testify or pay whatever legal price may be applied. Anyone destroying e-mails should also face whatever legal remedy exists.

But making other claims makes people fools...fools without facts.

 

BTW, the IRS should interact with Justice on a regular basis to prosecute tax evaders.

Additionally, many of the conservative groups applying should have been denied...they are not social service providers at all, just Super Pacs.
No one appreciates you not setting aside reason in favor of conspiracy theories more than original FSA members from the old board days.
So you advocate setting aside reason? Ok, i understand. Thing is, charging to attack the guy you hate doesn't make your argument seem stronger, just weaker. Arguing against reason doesn't help your cause either.
Facts matter, and until there are facts this charade of guilty without evidence wears thin.
Funny part is, I suspect you know this.
1037  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from former official Lerner on: June 27, 2014, 10:56:13 AM
The absence of information is the proof of conspiracy. Wow, amazing thought process there.

Then there is this other idea...how about if we send in investigators to find the e-mails of the recipients of the e-mails. And, along the way, identify and prosecute those who destroyed e-mails.

I have no interest of protecting anyone who committed a crime, but a lot of interset in not setting aside reason in the process.

Lois Lerner should testify or pay whatever legal price may be applied. Anyone destroying e-mails should also face whatever legal remedy exists.

But making other claims makes people fools...fools without facts.

 

BTW, the IRS should interact with Justice on a regular basis to prosecute tax evaders.

Additionally, many of the conservative groups applying should have been denied...they are not social service providers at all, just Super Pacs.
1038  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is time a circle? on: June 27, 2014, 10:07:49 AM
I believe that when we die we are shat out by a giant llama in another dimension and begin a new life as maggots. Just as much proof for my theory as all the other bullshit on this thread.
Except that there are several physics experiments that probe the nature of time and provide evidence for some of the theories presented in this thread being a possibility.

Just because you're ignorant of the science doesn't mean it isn't out there.
1039  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is time a circle? on: June 27, 2014, 09:40:47 AM
I believe the Hindus say that the consciousness keeps existing for 13 or 39 days after death. Science says that it may be up to 90 days before the brain dies, that thinking may continue past the time the body dies.

I don't think anyone lives the same life. Supposedly one is born in the opposite sex because men usually think of women when they die, so they are re-born as women, and women think of men, so they are born as men. If so, that is hardly the same life. Of course (?) we can only remember the same sex past lives, so if we're now male we usually only remember past lives where we were men.

Belief in re-incarnation won't do. You will have to know for certain whether or not consciousness continues past death.
Really. Tell me more. I'd love to see the "science" behind that claim AO, considering that without oxygen serious injury and brain death can occur in a matter of minutes.
1040  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is time a circle? on: June 27, 2014, 09:19:54 AM
It has no shape. Time is an emergent phenomenon, not a fundamental one. I'd like to think that with a black hole, there is a big bang happening on the other side. T = |e|
When you think about it, there are two instances where time ceases (relatively), and both involve energy. At absolute zero, all energy is removed from what I'll call the observer. With no energy, no molecular motion, time is infinite for the observer. This is the concept behind cryogenics. The other time is, say, theoretically, the observer possesses all energy, and the rest of the world appears to be stopped for the observer. So, the observer now has all the energy, but no time, as he would simply seem to disappear to the rest of the world, as he will have spent the entirety of the rest of his existence in a singularity of time.
granted, my knowledge of mathematical concepts may be flawed, so the absolute value term may not be the correct term for what I'm thinking.
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