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741  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Saturated fats are not bad for you. on: July 15, 2014, 06:06:46 PM
Saturated fats are involved in many metabolic pathways necessary for the synthesis of anabolic hormones.
Men must consume saturated fat. But they also exercise enough that articles like this don't appeal to them like homeopathic medicine does to a desperate cancer host.
742  Other / Off-topic / Re: Facebook analyzed World Cup posts to see which countries type "goooal" the longe on: July 15, 2014, 05:18:09 PM
oh shit i just saw that venezuela averaged 12.9 extra characters. their venezuelan sample size would have been like 2 tho because internet is so shoddy there ...
743  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Three Changes on: July 15, 2014, 05:02:01 PM
1. No more corporate citizenship
2. No more corporate citizenship
3. No more corporate citizenship

that should solve most problems.
Citizenship?
I believe i meant "corporate personhood." Woops.Meaning corporations should not be afforded the right to donate to political campaigns.
Our legislators are currently bought and sold by corporate interests, on both sides.
Well, corporate personhood means a lot more than that.
For example if your small business goes under, you can file bankruptcy and the business will be dissolved and its assets pooled for debt collectors, but your individual assets will be okay. You will not lose your home or your car or whatever. You just lose your business.
When you attack "corporations," you're attacking small business owners, not the conglomerates that you think you're attacking.
744  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Three Changes on: July 15, 2014, 04:52:54 PM
1. No more corporate citizenship
2. No more corporate citizenship
3. No more corporate citizenship

that should solve most problems.
Citizenship?
745  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Three Changes on: July 15, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
and
Amend Constitution to explicitly ban corporations and other liability-shielding business structures from being considered to have Constittuional rights

Allow government regulators a stipend and a job in human resources and ban them from taking any private sector job that is not far removed from any business sectors that they regulated in their government position for a period of 4 years.

Amend the Constitution to set a lower limit on the reserve ratio of private banks to 40%.
This implicitly gets rid of corporate income tax. It's stupid that entities other than individual humans were ever considered to have Constitutional rights.
It doesn't implictly get rid of anything. Corporations are legal fictions, and are subject to whatever legalities that legislators want to come up for them.

It's silly to think taxation of an organization and Constitutional rights are somehow inseparable.
746  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you own a firearm? on: July 15, 2014, 04:17:26 PM
Yes, that's right, blame the NRA and the government for something done by violent sociopaths who clearly had mental problems that needed fixing, there's absolutely no way that someone mental is the problem and it has absolutely nothing to do with the pathetic amount of support the mentally challenged in America have and how psychologists are basically trying to solve the problem by drugging up these people leading to them becoming even more violent and depressed than they were.

Bolded so people get my points about this whole stupid gun control argument.
Many millions of us fought, and some died to protect peaceful, American citizens' freedom and Liberty FROM Government, and the Individual right of EACH American to possess and safely use our guns.

Were this NOT the case, we might have preferred to join the military of a "FREE" nation and leave the Collectivist slime to their own devices, unworthy of any defense.
747  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts on religion for a Sunday morning on: July 15, 2014, 03:59:40 PM
Nobody gets to have it all in life. We all make our deals one way or another. I just think that in the context of living one's life absolutely in the knowledge that one is part of a greater whole, there is a bit less bleakness than that of living a life absolutely in the knowledge, as opposed to occasional speculation otherwise, that it matters, no matter how much one enjoys it while on earth, ultimately not a whit in this universe.

There is a true gem in the movie Troy, where Achilles mother tells him he has two futures: one in which he is loved during his life, and passes on to weeping and fond memories of his progeny, in which his grandsons remember him dimly, but still hold him in respect and honor, and then, after that...pfffft. That's about it. OR, he can go to Troy, be killed, and be remembered forever.

That's the split between living one's life in the intellect, and living it in the emotion.
748  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts on religion for a Sunday morning on: July 15, 2014, 03:53:21 PM
As I've pretty steadily maintained, I consider myself an atheist with hopes of some form of dualistic universe.

That said, when I read a lot of non-religious persons, I get a real dog in the manger sense from them: "I can't profit from faith, so I'll be damned if I'll grant you the right to do so: I'll tear it down every chance, every instance I get, I'll characterize those who possess faith as being weak in mind and weak in soul, unable to face life with a man in the sky blah blah blah. I'll find the easiest things to poke holes in, evolution or the age of the earth, and use them to claim that if you don't agree with science you must be a cretin unworthy of being listened to on any subject." I know that when I get frustrated even I am tempted, and probably do sometimes, go that route.

But I really do think that there is a case to be made that the life of an atheist has to be fundamentally bleaker than that of a true possessor of faith, if by bleak we mean less rich in an emotional context.

To me, it is another of life's deals. None of us get to have it all. One of the things we don't get is to experience is BOTH the fullness of our intellectual capacity AND the potential fullness of our emotional capacity, because one MUST be suppressed in order to concentrate on the other. I don't like the term "emotional" that I'm using because I'm not quite hitting it, if something other than that comes to mind I'll substitute, but for now, it takes an emotional mind to a certain extent to suspend belief in the mechanical laws of the universe in order to posit a sentience arising above and beyond those mechanical laws.

Those of us who cast our lot in with the intellect are going to always see the possibility of a dualistic universe of some sort, but we are not living in a dualistic universe, one in which our lives matter more than just being our lives, our short time on earth. We have already cast our lot: we believe in the intellect. We try to slice and dice it way by talking vaguely of some essentially meaningless force in our lives, but we don't fool ourselves at heart: we believe in nothing.

But a person of faith is actually living in that dualistic universe, where their lives have an intrinsic meaning that goes beyond them.
749  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts on religion for a Sunday morning on: July 15, 2014, 03:40:10 PM
There is nothing more sickening than religious people telling nonbelievers our lives must be bleak in comparison.  Typical religious superiority complex.

"If you don't follow our faith, you cant possibly know my kind of happiness you poor bleak wretched creature."

When I hear that message, which was pretty loud and clear in here, I want to throw up.

In fairness and in support of our secular laws, since I think people who follow any organized religion are fools and idiots, it is simply equal time if they want to call my life bleak.

That is not to dismiss that you can't be happy in this life, but rather that you entirely miss the experience of hope which expands it.  You can't possibly say that you don't need that or that it has no value  because you can't know what you are missing. While a person of faith can intellectualize the experience of atheism, an atheist cannot sufficiently intellectualize what is authentic spiritual experience.  It is akin to talking about being in love versus actually being in love.  I've no doubt one can live a happy life without ever being in love, but who would want to do so once they hold the experience of actually being in love?   
750  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Don't Mess with Messiahs on: July 15, 2014, 03:33:15 PM
Better yet, why don't you take some of the tax money liberals like myself give to you to take care of your mom, since you will be damned if you'll spend any of your own, and go buy a dictionary for me. And, in the meantime, before gifting it, look up the following words, which followed in the CBO statement your word "unsustainable", as in at current revenue levels. It has been pointed out to you 40 million times that the statement was that current spending was unsustainable at current revenue levels. Yet you always manage to forget that part of the phrase.

Been spending too much time with your intern of late to forget that one word does not in this case the sentence make?

Please, keep going.  It's entertaining.  Wink

  The fact that you would respond to me with mockingly throwing out words like "how pure and noble" is telling.  It takes neither of these things to lift a finger to help someone, and I'm proof of that.  You see those things as something unrealistic and something nobody really does; that's not my reality at all.  In my world, flawed, normal, everyday people do these things as part of their lives.  It's unfortunate that you don't have that experience.
I love when some leftwing dumbass actually tries to argue that we aren't headed for insolvency because more money would fix that!  Let me guess...Obama's unicorn isn't paying his fair share?  But once he does it will solve the problem of unfunded liabilities which are multiple times more than the entire wealth of the planet?   
There are a few liberals, I grant, who, rather than put up with your bile will just abandon a thread. I'm not one of them. As vicious as you get: I will remain on point--I have no need to descend to the gutter with you because as always, you , bah ha ha, I'm right. So go ahead and make your phony claims about all the charity you dispense--I'm sure you'll convince someone on the board that you do anything but sit on your asses and type your hatreds.

In the meantime, I will reiterate: these kids are here in this country, and it would take someone of contemptibly low breeding to suggest that they be deported to satisfy the racist impulses of the southerners or their acolytes.
751  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Don't Mess with Messiahs on: July 15, 2014, 02:43:23 PM
Better yet, why don't you take some of the tax money liberals like myself give to you to take care of your mom, since you will be damned if you'll spend any of your own, and go buy a dictionary for me. And, in the meantime, before gifting it, look up the following words, which followed in the CBO statement your word "unsustainable", as in at current revenue levels. It has been pointed out to you 40 million times that the statement was that current spending was unsustainable at current revenue levels. Yet you always manage to forget that part of the phrase.

Been spending too much time with your intern of late to forget that one word does not in this case the sentence make?
752  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Don't Mess with Messiahs on: July 15, 2014, 02:35:52 PM
It's exactly why I feel not the LEAST obligation to bray about any charitable actions or donations on my own behalf.What, rigon, you expect me to spend time in a pissing contest as to who makes the most donations or gives the most time? With someone I have not ONE way of comparing myself honestly to, since I know what I do, but have only your claims as to what you do?
No, not shamed by what we do...which imo as I've already said is not special but instead my pleasure and my obligation...but by what you don't do.  You'd rather pay your taxes and assume it is therefore someone else's problem. That's fine and your choice of course, but it makes you look sort of stupid when you accuse those who actually do of not caring or worse.
lol, except my claims are borne out by the fact that NO ONE on this board or any other has EVER heard me bitch about my taxes, and I specifically said above that I'd be happy for my taxes to be raised.A little bit of honesty goes a long way, anjy. Admitting your problem--southern racism--is the first step towards addressing it. No, no, don't thank me, as you say above, we all have to do something beyond paying our taxes, and in that vein, even as do you, I consider it my duty, anjy, to help folks like you get into the new century. Hell, I'd be satisfied with you getting in the 20th century, come to that...you still appear stuck in Alabama, circa 1840. 
753  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you own a firearm? on: July 15, 2014, 01:12:22 PM
There would never be any domestic violence... or any other sort of violence... if there were no guns.Didn't you know that?
I've heard that criminals wouldn't use guns if they were illegal but I didn't 'hear that men would stop beating and killing their wives if there were no guns.
It's true!  And wives would stop beating and killing their husbands, too!If only we could make all the guns go away.
Well it won't stop prostitutes from shooting their johns up with heroin and then watching them die. Did you see the google exec that o'd at the hands of his prostitute? It happened on his yacht, he  had a wife and 5 kids.
754  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is anyone following the Israel & Palestine Situation. on: July 15, 2014, 01:02:50 PM
So, the slaughter continues. How many dead Palestinians will be enough this time? The irony of this is that Hamas will come out this stronger than ever. Hamas will present itself as the one Palestinian entity that is willing and able to stand up to the brutality of Israeli oppression. Thus, while Abbas loses credibility as he negotiates with the Israelis and has nothing to show for it, Hamas can at least say that it is not abasing itself before the Israelis and then receiving nothing but humiliation in return. Sadly, it will have a point. Israel has shattered Abbas' credibility among his own people by stringing him along in negotiations while using the time to expand and accelerate its settlement program. As this happens, Jewish settlers and the IDF beat, shoot and abuse Palestinian civilians. In the face of such a bleak situation, the side that can be seen as resisting - even if that resistance gains very little - can at least argue that it has its pride intact. When a people live under constant humiliation and degradation, that is a powerful appeal.
755  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you own a firearm? on: July 15, 2014, 12:56:13 PM
There would never be any domestic violence... or any other sort of violence... if there were no guns.Didn't you know that?
I've heard that criminals wouldn't use guns if they were illegal but I didn't 'hear that men would stop beating and killing their wives if there were no guns.
756  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you own a firearm? on: July 15, 2014, 12:55:17 PM
gun laws don't matter.  cause u can buy any with Bitcoins
your saying that bitcoin is used to buy bad stuff like guns,but before bitcoin was cash....if you have cash u can buy any gun you want without any law stopping you.
757  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you own a firearm? on: July 15, 2014, 12:43:36 PM
The Facts on Women, Children and Gun Violence

presence of a firearm in a home with domestic violence can transform an argument into homicide in a fraction of a second. Firearms and domestic violence are a lethal combination - injuring and killing women, children, and bystanders every day in the United States. In one study of 25 high-income countries, the United States represented just 32% of the female population but accounted for 84% of all female firearm homicides.i A gun is the weapon most commonly used in domestic homicides. In fact, more than six times as many women are murdered by guns used by their current or former intimate partners than are killed by male strangers’ guns, knives or other weapons combined.

332,014 people died from guns between 2000 and 2010. That number is greater than the populations of U.S. cities such as St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati.

31,328 people died from gun violence in 2010, or roughly 1 every 17 minutes.

A gun in the home makes homicide three times more likely, suicide up to five times as likely, and accidental death four times higher than in non-gun owning homes.

Access to firearms increases the risk of intimate partner homicide more than five times than in instances where there are no weapons, according to a recent study. In addition, abusers who possess guns tend to inflict the most severe abuse on their partners.

Over 40 percent of guns sold in the U.S. are done so without a background check.

Gun Violence & Women

94% of female murder victims killed by men are killed by a man they knew. In other words, females are 16 times as likely to be killed by a male acquaintance than by a male stranger. In 2010, 1,017 women, almost three a day, were killed by their intimate partners. viii

Of females killed by men with a firearm, more than two-thirds were killed by their intimate partners.

In 2010, 52 percent of female homicide victims killed by men were shot and killed with a gun. Female intimate partners are more likely to be murdered with a firearm than all other means combined.

Women suffering from domestic violence are eight times more likely to be killed if there are firearms in the home
Domestic violence is the root cause not the gun. BTW most state laws remove firearms from the home of anyone accused or convicted of domestic violence. Now if you have some test that proves domestic violence will occur lets see it.


Murder and Gender

In 2011, the United States Department of Justice compiled homicide statistics in the United States between 1980 and 2008. That study showed the following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice
Offenders

    Males committed the vast majority of homicides in the United States at that time, representing 90% of the total number of offenders.
    Young adult black males had the highest homicide offending rate compared to offenders in other racial and sex categories.
    White females of all ages had the lowest offending rates of any racial or age groups.
    The overall offending rates for both males and females have declined since 1990.
    Of children under age 5 killed by a parent, the rate for biological fathers was slightly higher than for biological mothers.
    However, of children under 5 killed by someone other than their parent, 80% were killed by males.
Victims

    Victimization rates for both males and females have been relatively stable since 2000.
    Males were more likely to be murder victims (76.8%).
    Females were most likely to be victims of domestic homicides (63.7%) and sex-related homicides (81.7%)
    Males were most likely to be victims of drug- (90.5%) and gang-related homicides (94.6%).
758  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts on religion for a Sunday morning on: July 15, 2014, 11:49:57 AM
When it comes to happiness I will take atheism happiness any day over what the theists call happiness. Theist joy is all about fearing God and giving in to his will.... while ours is all about being free of the chains of superstition.
759  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you own a firearm? on: July 15, 2014, 11:23:29 AM
What I'm saying is that a national policy will help in two major ways - first, it will reduce availability (notice I said reduce, not eliminate) of black market guns by shutting down at least PART of the flow source by making unregistered sales illegal everywhere.
What's your source for making that claim?

It's called an opinion - and one based in sound logic. The problem you and I have is that you seem to think I'm calling this a magic bullet - which I'm not, and without a magic bullet, you're unwilling to consider ANY  measures.
Where do you citizens of Jersey go to get your Free Speech permits?  What the fuck about "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
Having people go through background checks to make sure they are not criminals is not infringing on their right to own a gun, you twit.  When they pass the check, they get their permit, and they get their gun. No infringement. There's nothing in the second amendment that says that it cannot be regulated, and the Supreme Court has already long since upheld that principle. The only way there would be infringement on the right to keep and bear arms is if they were refused the permit or the firearms ID card in spite of the fact that the check comes back clean. So you tell me, what part of "shall not be infringed" do YOU not understand?
According to lefties getting a free photo ID is racist and nothing but an attempt to keep blacks and the poor from voting. So by the same logic isn't your attempt to infringe upon the right to bear arms just as racist and designed to keep guns from blacks and the poor? And given the number of poor and black that live in violent cities like Chicago shouldn't the poor and the black be allowed to defend their lives just like everyone else?
760  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you own a firearm? on: July 15, 2014, 11:13:38 AM
Again, most gun deaths are the suicides you liberals support. Most of the rest are inner-city gangs killing each other, so if you are not suicidal, not a gang member, don't deal in drugs, and you are not a cop, your chances of being shot in America are near zero.

The gun 'crisis', like so many other 'emergencies', is liberal hogwash being used as an excuse to further limit the rights of We, the People. There is no gun crisis, and if you are as smart as you claim you are, then you damn know it.
That's bullshit and has always been bullshit. Unless you live in Chicago you are more likely to be shot by your lover or spouse or someone who knows you. Its the "lawful gun owner' who generally kills his wife and children in their beds....not gang members or criminals.
How many people a year are killed by a "lawful gun owner' who generally kills his wife and children in their beds"? I'll make it easier...what percentage of Americans will not be killed by the " 'lawful gun owner' who generally kills his wife and children in their beds"? 
Show us the stats and prove that there's a 'crisis'!You run your big mouth all the time with wild accusations and hyperbole, but you never prove it. 
Well, I don't want to be hyperbolic or anything:

Houston Crime
4 children, 2 adults shot dead in Spring; prompts hours-long

http://www.khou.com/news/crime

Related:

    Neighbors react to mass shooting in north Harris Countyadd to reading list

 http://www.khou.com/news/crime/Neighbors-react-to-mass-shooting-in-north-Harris-County-266535081.html

SPRING, Texas – Six people were shot dead, including four children, Wednesday afternoon in north Harris County, according to Harris County Pct. 4 deputies.

The incident happened at a home in the 700 block of Leaflet in the Enchanted Oaks subdivision.

Deputies responded to a shooting and found the victims. The sole survivor, a 15-year-old female, told authorities the gunman was on his way to another home to kill more relatives. The deputies beat him to that home.

A three-hour long standoff took place in a cul-de-sac on Countrymeadows near Country Canyon. Neighbors were forced out of their homes as the situation unfolded.

“The sheriff’s hostage negotiators have successfully resolved this,” said Constable Ron Hickman. “He’s removed from the vehicle without incident.”

The victims were ages five to 40. Four children and two adults died. According to authorities, it was a domestic dispute between a man and his estranged wife.

Authorities did not release the victims' identities and did not say how they might be related to each other or the suspect.

“Our hearts go out to the families involved in this tragedy,” said Hickman.
Do 6 deaths out of a population of 330,000,000 represent a crisis? Let's see your 4 kids get shot dead by a guy in a "domestic dispute" (usually is a guy going after an 'estranged' wife and kids or anyone nearby; assorted relatives) and see if you call it a crisis. 
If that's a crisis then certainly 12 dead and 60 wounded in Chicago is a crisis. And that crisis happens just about every weekend. Do you think those gang members care about gun laws or getting their guns legally registered?
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