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401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How/where to buy Ehtereum coins? on: July 23, 2015, 02:55:08 PM
Vaporcoins are not for sale yet. Wait for "release".

Ahah maybe yes!
But I still want to put 10$ in there, and if the thing works, boom!
Otherwise I wasted only 10$, who cares.
402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How/where to buy Ehtereum coins? on: July 23, 2015, 02:54:23 PM
As per title.

As far as I know, you cannot buy Ethereum (Ethers) directly. However, you could try buying Ethercoin which is exchangeable at 1:1 ratio when Ethereum releases the genesis block. If you own 3 Ethercoins, then you would own 3 Ethers. For more info, go to: http://ethercoin.cc

Hope this helps  Smiley

Thank you, dude!
403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Funny how bitcoin controls everything on: July 23, 2015, 02:41:02 PM
Bitcoin and altcoins ties are very weak.
They are powerful right now, just because ALL cryptocurrencies are mostly used for SPECULATION.
This means when people see Bitcoin is raising, they trust more that all altcoins will be useful as well... which is not necessarily true... and probably just not true at all.

Once Bitcoin will become mainstream for USE (buying goods), then it will REALLY take off and blow up to 10000$ in few months, then to 100000$ in another year.

But at that point, altcoins will stop at the bar for a very simple reason: Bitcoin will take off because it will be possible to use it to actually BUY STUFF.
That's because it has been implemented as a method of payment on thousands and thousands of shops and services, thing that is NOT happening with altcoins.

It MAY happen in the future, though, especially for Litecoin, imho.
But in first instance, altcoins could take a severe hit when Bitcoin will boost to the Moon, exactly because people will understand that its value is in its spreading in the mainstream as a way of buying goods, and altcoins could be seen as a failure as they will remain in there only still as speculative currency.
404  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / How/where to buy Ehtereum coins? on: July 23, 2015, 02:10:07 PM
As per title.
405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about those bitcoins that are LOST? on: July 15, 2015, 10:02:32 AM
This will not have a bad influence on the overall community. At the moment Bitcoin is devisable to 0.0000001 ... If a shortage of Bitcoins occur, they can just add a few zero's. {Extreme scenario}

Coins are also added daily through mining, for many years to come... and would not run out in our life time.  Wink

Nobody will ever really know, how many coins are lost... I have coins in cold storage, that has been there for years. It's out of circulation, but it's not lost.

Most people would bring these coins back in circulation, before a scenario like this occur... because they would be more valueble anyway.  Wink It's really a non-issue.

I hope I explained it, better than I understand it.  Wink  

 

Can you tell me where to find information about Bitcoin division?
I follow it since a couple years, never read about that possibility to divide Bitcoins in smaller parts than Satoshis.
406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about those bitcoins that are LOST? on: July 15, 2015, 09:15:22 AM
A good question OP i have thought about this before.
Interesting answers so far but 2 questions of my own

1) Who would sign off on the coins actually being lost and would we ever trust any 1 person to do this?
2) I know there is a blockchain.info address that you can send coins to that can never be recovered, do these coins get replaced? Can anyone supply that address for me please?

I presented a way to "spot" lost coins: they would be out of use since years and years.

Bitcoins has not been around since years and years but last year 5,5 million bitcoin was untouched for more than 2 years.

So what? When Bitcoin becomes widely used, that is going to change.
It's normal that at the moment, when Bitcoin is mostly used as an investment asset, there is a huge number of them sitting unused.
I have less than 1 BTC, and you bet it: it's sitting warmly in my wallet.
407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about those bitcoins that are LOST? on: July 15, 2015, 07:32:21 AM
I can propose an even worse scenario: let's say that USA now bans Bitcoins.
FBI could, after taking them from criminals, instead than resell them on the market, just burn and lose the keys to recover them.
We are talking about thousands of BTC wasted in each major operation and a continuous waste in smaller operations.
Actually, this would be possibly the only way to neutralize a cryptocurrency: bleed it to death.
408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about those bitcoins that are LOST? on: July 15, 2015, 07:29:06 AM
A good question OP i have thought about this before.
Interesting answers so far but 2 questions of my own

1) Who would sign off on the coins actually being lost and would we ever trust any 1 person to do this?
2) I know there is a blockchain.info address that you can send coins to that can never be recovered, do these coins get replaced? Can anyone supply that address for me please?

I presented a way to "spot" lost coins: they would be out of use since years and years.
409  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about those bitcoins that are LOST? on: July 15, 2015, 07:27:29 AM
Lost coins are actually good for the bitcoin in general. Satoshi once said that lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone.
So this is not a problem, there is no need for 'recreate' initiatives, because it would not be wise imo.

Around one year ago, I made a quick count and found that 21 million BTC, if they would be distributed to cover ALL the Earth wealth (241 trillions), they would be not granular enough to be used as currency.
To say it another way: a single Satoshi would be valued something like 50 or 100 $, and couldn't be used for shopping in a comfortable way.

Now, of course this is an utopian scenario, but it still is a POSSIBLE scenario, and one that we all hope will be one day reached.
Sure there's alternatives out there: Litecoin could come into play as THE alternative for everyday transactions, it also has a much higher cap, it would be the silver of cryptocurrencies, and Bitcoin could be the gold.
But still: each Bitcoin or Satoshi lost, in a scenario where all Bitcoins are used, would represent a failure when granularity is not enough.
410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about those bitcoins that are LOST? on: July 15, 2015, 07:22:24 AM
Lost Bitcoins is a good thing actually. They make your unlost bitcoins more valuable. (As long as the lost ones aren't yours of course)

I don't think so: nobody knows anybody has lost his coins, there's no way to know it, apart the case I exposed in the previous post, or by admission of the user himself, which can be fraudulent.
AT THE MOMENT the value of your coins is UNAFFECTED by lost coins.
In the future, when we'll hit the wall, THEN this may affect it, as less and less coins will be in circulation.

i presume that the impact would be very low on the market, do not expect an huge rise in demand only because 30% of coins are lost, people simply will buy less one whole btc and more satoshi or bits

Not like that.
In a possible future that we all are hoping, Bitcoins will be a used everywhere by everyone.
There will actually be scarcity of them.
People won't BUY bitcoins: they will USE them and EARN them with their work (until AI and robotics will take all of that...).
411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about those bitcoins that are LOST? on: July 15, 2015, 07:07:26 AM
And I mean really, really lost.
A lot of people can't remember their passwords after 4 minutes since they set it up.
But apart this, there's several ways bitcoins can get lost, like in example if you have a wallet on a USB key and this breaks and you have no cold backup.

This will inevitably bring, in the future, to less than those 21 million cap.
And they WILL keep going down.

Is there a plan to reintegrate them?

you need not worry about the future when the 21 million cap is reached because it is far far away.

also the price of bitcoin will determine whether the amount of available bitcoin is enough or not, besides there is not just 21 mil BTC there is much more because you have to consider every digit after the point too. i mean 1 satoshi (1e-8BTC) is usable and have value.

additionally 1 satoshi can be broken down into smaller units if needs be, with a simple change in the code.

I agree with this: it's not an actual problem. It may become a problem in the future.
But if what you say is true, that also Satoshis can be divided, then there is no problem at all, I guess.
But I've never read anything about this, are you sure this can be done?
412  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about those bitcoins that are LOST? on: July 15, 2015, 07:05:11 AM
Lost Bitcoins is a good thing actually. They make your unlost bitcoins more valuable. (As long as the lost ones aren't yours of course)

I don't think so: nobody knows anybody has lost his coins, there's no way to know it, apart the case I exposed in the previous post, or by admission of the user himself, which can be fraudulent.
AT THE MOMENT the value of your coins is UNAFFECTED by lost coins.
In the future, when we'll hit the wall, THEN this may affect it, as less and less coins will be in circulation.
413  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about those bitcoins that are LOST? on: July 15, 2015, 07:04:13 AM
OK I'll try to be more clear.

Case: 10 years from now, developers uncover that 5% of BTC are unused, since 10 years.
Those wallets are much probably lost. Users don't use those coins for the simple reason they have lost their keys.
Hypothesis: reintegrate those coins by mining them back.

Another case: coins WILL keep being lost as time goes, this happens with fiat money, and WILL happen with Bitcoin.
For a long time now there won't be any problem of course, but IF Bitcoin will become a hugely widespread currency, as we all hope, then this WILL be a problem.
414  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / What about those bitcoins that are LOST? on: July 15, 2015, 05:09:41 AM
And I mean really, really lost.
A lot of people can't remember their passwords after 4 minutes since they set it up.
But apart this, there's several ways bitcoins can get lost, like in example if you have a wallet on a USB key and this breaks and you have no cold backup.

This will inevitably bring, in the future, to less than those 21 million cap.
And they WILL keep going down.

Is there a plan to reintegrate them?
415  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. on: February 14, 2015, 04:22:50 AM
I was about to buy 20 GHs for testing and I read some comments in the internet saying they are not mining. I found this thread sometime later. Thought if they pay their users back, I might give it a go but..

Lucky you. Trust me, don't give it a go even if PB comes back and pay back some customers.. Wink . Try to avoid all ponzi in the future (I recommend you this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0)

I still got nothing back, he's just teasing and hoping some people send him more money.
I'm getting paid every week or two some 0.00006 BTC.
This is not really a ponzi.
It was like this: as the difficulty of mining was increasing, he could count on giving less and less money back to customers.
But he faced the wall when the increasing in difficulty stopped and went back.
He had to pay more to the customers but as he didn't really buy any infrastructure to mine, he was fucked up by the cloud mining services he himself used.
Ironically, if he invested those money for buying some mining hardware, he would have gone very well when the mining difficulty decreased.
I hope this piece of shit will spend all those money in doctors.
416  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. on: December 24, 2014, 10:17:52 AM
The worst thing about all of this is that the guy still think he can tease hundreds of people.
He came on the forum with the PBMining account saying that "OUR DEVELOPER", while it's clearly just himself alone that did all the shit.
I really hope that somebody will find him and beat him for good. Then post the photos please.
417  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. on: December 19, 2014, 12:43:40 PM
Again! Stop publishing personal data and stop your personal witch hunt!  Angry

Collect data, go to lawyer or take link from puppet to mounties.

Everything else is a violation against data privacy laws! Yes, really it is! In US like in Canada too.

Whatever he is a scammer or not, he could sue you all too because of this!

Please people, use your brain!


BTW: The copyright of the pictures belongs to him, this could be very expensive too!
Nope i have no idea who this person is lol to lazy an dhungover to read, but read any social network TOC. Once something is uploaded on to the servers for viewing by other people even if just kept private it becomes non copyrighted. In any case i do understand what you are trying to tell people

I agree.

What you publish on social networks is PUBLIC.

The only real problem can be clear and explicit menaces.

So just don't do menaces, just wait if justice will move.

And if it will not, do it yourself.

Sure is, he has to pay.
418  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. on: December 19, 2014, 12:39:35 PM
And What does the newspaper Report?


"breaking News: A bitcoin cloudmining service which always paid lowered the payouts"


hey sick buffalo - i see you sold your account to jason boyko.. your last few post are completely supportive. you were one of the first to call him out. now you only post positive things on behalf of boyko.

 but to answer your question what would be reported is that customers paid for mining gh, and that over 90% of that gh has now been stolen by jason. also what can be reported is that jason never owned the gh he sold and that he never even rented the gh he sold - he was accepting payments from gh purchased and making payments with that gh revenue-not with gh from mining. so that is a ponzi scheme and it is illegal. it is also a fact that what jason paid out for 1000gh was not consistent with the 1000gh owned by the client. it was only 100gh. he was never authorized to remove 900 gh from anybodies account. you knew all this yet you still asked a stupid question.

Jason you act like a child.

*

This kid really needs a GOOD lesson.
419  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers. on: December 19, 2014, 12:37:45 PM
bull shit pb started skimming-then he got caught skimming, then people contacted him... not before. he has no reason not to verify the farm. if he has a farm he is keeping what was bought with our money... this guy need the inside of a jail cell he thinks the he, the guy that was skimming and stealing, is  a fair judge of how this should be paid out...why the further altered payout? WE NEED PUBLIC OVERSIGHT BY AN APPOINTED AJUDICATOR NOT THIS FUCKING MORON JASON BOYDKO DECIDING HOW HE THINKS HE SHOULD GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK... thieves dont get to sentence them selves and oversee there recompance - that is the most fukd thing i have ever heard= more stealing... so he buys himself time and steals more(really pays himself) then tells others in january he will get to you=fukd.... WHY WOULD EVERYBODY NOT GET THE SAME AMOUNT PER GH OWNED.....WHATS THAT AMOUNT.....WHAT IMPARTIAL THIRD PERSON IS HANDLING THIS.........WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED NOW SO WE CAN HIRE AN ATORNEY IN THAT TOWN TO OVERLOOK OUR INTERESTTHE FARM MUST BE VERIFIED and why the skims...  u owe answers?


i hope that new car was worth it, you are going down bro

I completely agree.
This piece of... you know what I mean, also laughed at my face when I wrote on the forum that his activity was a scam.
I hope he will go to jail and pay and maybe learn something.
Or if this will not happen, I hope he will get some... a lot of, so that he will have to spend all those money in doctors.
420  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 08, 2014, 06:49:31 PM
Well, it has metered 175 satoshi/gh so far this week.

If he intends to really pay out this dust (which I doubt)

I guess itīs a little better than nothing at all. But more

likely the meter will gradually dwindle down to zero.

I don't think this is the most possible scenario.

I think the most possible scenario is that he already sold every GH/s he could sell from CEX (or similar if exists...) and what we are seeing is some other GH/s that he can't sell because the service doesn't allow it.

He is much possibly already in Dominica enjoying money and what we see is the remains of the system going on by inertia...

Difficult to say, we lack information on whatīs going on.

Clearly this is about substantial money and losses so

probably something is going on that we donīt hear about

here. People with money have resources and means.

Of course I don't know more than anybody else around here, I base my intuitions on the data we have.
Statistically, I think this is the most possible scenario though.
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