Mhhhh ok, but I don't care, in example.
And I'll take that into account when estimating the real number.
I may make a poll on this forum and ask if the user would disclose his Bitcoin adoption or not.

Mhhhh ok I'll try to see if it's possible to render this anonymous, but I think the fact you join the group doesn't affect your privacy settings in any way: if you are not friend of somebody, nothing will be more visible than your name and the other settings you made public.
If you join, people will only know that you have some BTC or you want very much to buy some, and the data you made public anyway.

Uhhh so what? You scared? Something dirty going on???

Nobody will know the addresses you use anyway when you pay or receive money.
And I don't think everybody will join, an estimate will still be necessary, but I think that if the thing will run, it will get us to a much clearer number than with other methods.

Criminals will probably not join, and that's good

Thank you, but these are pages about Bitcoin itself.
There's plenty more around.
If I am a bitcoin user I don't necessarily want to subscribe to them as they can also keep publishing stuff I'm not really interested in.

My group is ONLY aimed at seeing how many we are.
I will write very very few posts in it.
This means, you join, it's a +1 in the number of users adopting bitcoin.
That's how I intend it.

Ye, I opened it couple days ago, and I only have 100+ friends and added the more open minded of them
And only 2/3 of them interested in Bitcoin so of these 50 only these 2/3 remain as real Bitcoin users, but as it's at the beginning I think it's excused I'll try to gain as much attention as possible

I don't know if this is allowed here, if not I'm sorry for it, just delete the thread.

Anyway, as I'm really curious on how many Bitcoin users are out there and it seems there's no reliable way to estimate it at the moment, I thought this could be a good try.
Quick, easy and inexpensive.
Just ask for subscription, spread the word, and let's see how many will join.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1153361628014629/

Also, remember: the more we are, the more reputation Bitcoin gains... so it's in our interest to manage to make this estimate.

And of course you trust him 

I can't see where the issue is.
Coinbase is a SERVICE aimed at commerce.
I find it completely legit that they don't want people to become their surrogate and begin to exchange Bictoin for fiat currency themselves, using the Coinbase service.
That's the only thing those lines mean: they will check how much traffic you will generate and guess if you are becoming an online Bitcoin trader.

I personally don't trust much online wallets: seen too much crap happened in the past.

The main problem to get Bitcoin to mainstream adoption is to create enough reputation to deem it a valid currency.
You would be surprised to see how many people think Bitcoin is just "some faux money" or "ponzi scheme" or other stuff.
Most never even heard the word Bitcoin, many heard something on tv or read an article or two, but even when you will introduce them to it and will try to explain how new the concept is, they will look at you like a weirdo believing in bullshit and multilevel marketing and dismiss the discussion.
It's a slow progress, like with anything disrupting, like it was with internet in the early days.
Just wait some years, the boom will come.

Some questions on Electrum servers.

Who manages them?
Who funds them?
Can I set one up?
How can users trust they won't come down ever?
Would I lose all my funds if the Electrum servers were dismissed?
What if only some 10 servers remain?
Would I be able to recover my funds in that case?

I see that COINOMI uses "Electrum server software": does this mean they use the Electrum servers or only the software and the nodes are COINOMI only?

May I suggest you to send the seed to your online email service?
You won't ever lose it that way and it should be well guarded if you don't use crappy providers.

Looks great!

About keyloggers: why don't you implement a visual (mouse clicking) access check?

I get that 99% of people aren't able to generate a good sentence to remember, but I still don't like being given the chance to use my favourite sentence.

It's nothing I've found on internet, I searched for it and there's NO MATCHES on internet, and it's a sentence of 16 WORDS, that could also include punctuation.

Having to fiddle with hex is not fun for a non-coder and may also lead to problems in future updates I guess so I won't go that direction.

But in example, to not get bored with that sequence of words, I just snapshot it and send it to my email, which has a password of only 10+ characters... is that really better?
And I guess many people are doing it like that.

Printing those words on paper? And if somebody stumble on that paper?
Remembering 12 words without any sense? Good luck with that: nobody will even try. I didn't, for sure.

Uhhh wat?

Money is a tool to exchange goods.
It allows people to avoid barter.


If you think money is a tool to gain power over other people, you have a psicopathic personality disorder, and you are dangerous.
Sure, you use no real weapon, but your mission in  life is to subdue other people by any means.
This is revealed by your view on money.

The only thing that restrains you from using weapons is the fact that they are not a viable solution for your objective of domination, as you haven't enough power to use them proficiently.
If you'd reach the power of, say, a central Africa small nation, you would not hesitate to use weapons to hold your power.

The fact that you post this on a forum regarding what is money for, reveals this your personality trait.
Think about that.

Btw, what is a gun for?
If you think guns are tools to gain power over people, then bingo.
You just have found an analogy.

And last but not least, weapons are also for defense.
If a person manipulates the market to throw people in poverty and gain more power without regards or empathy to anybody, I have all the right to use that gun and take down that person, even if he is not using machine guns to kill people.
He's just using... another weapon: money.



P.s.: I don't know you, I have nothing personal with you, I only got bad sensation from your post.
And sorry everybody for gravedigging this thread, I was searching for some info and stumbled on this.
Anyway, the matter is still well alive.

When?

How many people hold how much of this huge part of Bitcoins?
I'm ignorant in this.
But I agree that if 50% of Bitcoins is held by 5 people, then those 5 will become the world's dominators, and people will surely move onto something else.
But this is not the discussion we were holding before. We were talking about "no more fiat to buy crypto".

Anyway, even in this case of unfair money distribution, people could just let Bitcoin fall and move onto another cryptocurrency.
Or a couple of those.
And let Bitcoin freefall unless the whales sell at fair price.
But whales could also never be traced back if they use some anonymizing service... we would never know.

It's incredible how some people simply can't catch the whole picture.
You tell him that when 1 BTC will value 100000 $, people will still buy a part of it, it's not mandatory to buy ONE Bitcoin.
He still say that people will raise the price so high that no one can buy, because he still thinks people will want to buy ONE Bitcoin.
He can't accept that people will exchange what they can for the equivalent in Bitcoins, like 500 mBTC or 3420 uBTC in example.
And that all of that will be totally proportional to what can be bought with either BTC or $.
He just can't catch it.

If in the future there will be so much request for Bitcoins that 1 BTC will equal to 1 trillion $, then well yes, I'll set the bar to 1 trillion $ for my BTC, and whoever will want to buy, he will buy a fraction of that BTC.
If at that time 1 satoshi or 1$ will buy you a cappuccino, and you will want 50000$ in Bitcoins, then you will get from me 0.00050000 Bitcoins.
I will still sell you bitcoins, because there will still be some shops accepting $.
Then there will be less, and you will have to pay even more $ to have some Bitcoins.
And then there will be less shops accepting $.
And less. And I will still raise the price of my Bitcoins.
And at one point, AS I WROTE, the less gifted part of world population will still be sitting on a pile of $ or € or £ etc. and the only use they will be able to do of those will be to warm up their houses by throwing them in the chimney.