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401  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2014, 11:31:57 AM


Bearwhale's intention might have been something other than to use it to make a giant ask wall? Maybe it was to dump 1k every time the price rose a little bit.

He buys it out himself to paint a high volume reversal on the charts and to simulate high demand <300, hoping new investors/exited investors will be tempted to come in based on that. If it works, bear markets over, if it doesn't, he puts a bunch of bids on the books with profits from previous sells (and from the actual buys of his 30k ask) to try to pump the price up as much as possible before selling off again and using those proceeds to try again at a lower price.
If you think that an ask that is up for 6h with a price differential to all other exchanges of 3-5% and the price continuously bumping against it during this whole timeframe and considering that the price had been in a relatively steep downtrend beforehand, ie lots of nervously waiting money on the sidelines, will not inevitably lead to many people buying into it, then obviously you've never traded this market in any significant capacity, because you do not appreciate the value of reduced slippage combined with a safe entry at least short term.

But keep doubting. It's fuel.
402  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2014, 12:18:38 AM
You guys realize people bought 30k BTC @300 on Bitstamp within 24h? To me, evidence is needed to tell that this support should fall, especially when we have had declining selling volume off 418 to 315, which represents a higher low that just shouldn't happen if the bearish momentum was there. This is in addition to the declining asks and rising bid sums.

I have been warning for over a month and harvested only insults and disbelief: that 5th of October was likely a mid term bottom (that much is clear now) and possibly even a long term bottom.

I thought it was obvious to us the bearwhale just ate his own coins. No?
No, the ask was up for many hours, there were many buys and Bitstamp was much lower than other exchanges providing an arbitrage opportunity. It's highly unlikely most of it was bought by the seller himself.
403  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 11:36:52 PM
You guys realize people bought 30k BTC @300 on Bitstamp within 24h? To me, evidence is needed to tell that this support should fall, especially when we have had declining selling volume off 418 to 315, which represents a higher low that just shouldn't happen if the bearish momentum was there. This is in addition to the declining asks and rising bid sums.

I have been warning for over a month and harvested only insults and disbelief: that 5th of October was likely a mid term bottom (that much is clear now) and possibly even a long term bottom.
404  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 11:21:03 PM
do you guys think we will go still below $300  Huh
405  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 11:13:34 PM
"Please, just once more cheap coins. Soon."

406  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 11:07:44 PM
Surely we'll have new lows soon. Just wait.

407  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 06:10:20 PM
Bitcoin is something new and can easily dissapear again unlike things like gold. That's why only a complete fucking idiot would compare Bitcoin to gold.

You do realize that you just compared Bitcoin to gold and then proceeded to call yourself a complete fucking idiot, right?

See one post up. Guy's a complete maniac, I hope he hasn't been hurting himself over this bear market.
408  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
I will leave this place soon. Bitcoin is dead, it's only down from here and i sold everything i got quite a while ago so there is nothing for me here anymore.
I tried to help the few delusional bulls who just won't give up but they don't appreciate my warnings very much. Ah well, your money. I don't care really.
I'll come back every 50 dollar drop for some entertainment. So long and thanks for buying my coins at 400. Poor schmucks.

Good luck with your pump and dump coin.

I feel sorry for all the idiots who sold at these ridiculous prices and i will laugh at all the bears who will get caught in trap after trap the coming weeks.

The only winners are the holders (like me) and the people who pick up the last cheap coins while they can.

We're going up and it's confirmed!
409  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 05:58:56 PM
I don't get it. 20k ask wall? Eaten straight away. 7k to over 500? nope.

20k wall? eaten? where?
5th of October,

never forget.
410  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 05:53:33 PM
I am very worried about gold. It's been in 3 years of bear market now. I'm afraid it's going to die. Sad
411  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2014, 05:49:39 PM
I wonder 2 things:

1: Will the traders try to kill Bitcoin for another year?

2: Will Bitcoin even survive another year of this shit. How much longer will there be buyers before everyone gives up? This can't and won't go on forever.
Killing Bitcoin that way didn't work in 2011. Why would it work now?
Because 12 months is an eternity to deluded Shroomsy.
412  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2014, 06:08:01 PM
I will leave this place soon. Bitcoin is dead, it's only down from here and i sold everything i got quite a while ago so there is nothing for me here anymore.
I tried to help the few delusional bulls who just won't give up but they don't appreciate my warnings very much. Ah well, your money. I don't care really.
I'll come back every 50 dollar drop for some entertainment. So long and thanks for buying my coins at 400. Poor schmucks.

Good luck with your pump and dump coin.

I feel sorry for all the idiots who sold at these ridiculous prices and i will laugh at all the bears who will get caught in trap after trap the coming weeks.

The only winners are the holders (like me) and the people who pick up the last cheap coins while they can.

We're going up and it's confirmed!
413  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 08:51:22 PM
One bust is a fluke. Two busts is worrying. Three... One may start to think the online drug market business is too risky.
Last year there were 4 operating markets and one got busted.

This year there were 18 operating markets and 3 got shut down.

Odds of getting busted fell from 25% to 17%.
Come on, give the FBI their dues. It's a little unfair to compare markets regardless of size. They picked the biggest fish. I'm sure the percentage is over 50% if you go by the amount of buyers, sellers and goods.

If FBI agents are reading this, great work everyone involved! Enjoy the hash! Cheesy

What was the giveaway this time? Last time was DPR as good as openly boasting about Silk Road.

Surprised they are getting caught with all the mixing services available. At some point there has to be a conversion to fiat so maybe that was the weak link.
I saw something about the admin having registered the website in his clear name. Seems it's still amateur hour.

Obviously, this is no job for the average nerd. Eventually there'll be markets run by either by mafiosi or by someone with a background in SIGINT. Someone like Satoshi Nakamoto. Cheesy
414  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 08:42:53 PM
One bust is a fluke. Two busts is worrying. Three... One may start to think the online drug market business is too risky.
Last year there were 4 operating markets and one got busted.

This year there were 18 operating markets and 3 got shut down.

Odds of getting busted fell from 25% to 17%.
Come on, give the FBI their dues. It's a little unfair to compare markets regardless of size. They picked the biggest fish. I'm sure the percentage is over 50% if you go by the amount of buyers, sellers and goods.

If FBI agents are reading this, great work everyone involved! Enjoy the hash! Cheesy
415  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 08:31:51 PM
like buying bitcoins with non existing money?

yea, that sounds perfectly legal.
I'm certain that Bitstamp has done a full investigation of the legal compliance of their manipulative moves (such as this recent one threatening to seize BTC balances unless the criminals buy and withdraw) and that they will be very careful to toe the line.

Again, a declining Bitcoin price on equal volume (and boy, volume has not been equal, it's actually declined along with the price!) brings Bitstamp into trouble because they have a percentage based commission. When things get too shitty, it's "manipulate or die". And this goes for Bitfinex, too.
416  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 08:23:56 PM
lol

bitstamp talking about taking down accounts that are not verified (they are requesting ID, they are not giving you a second chance to withdraw)
You aren't thinking like a criminal. The criminals will just acquire fake IDs, get verified, buy BTC and withdraw.

I actually think this was a manipulative move done by Bitstamp to stop its descent and propel it upwards. I expect many more of such manipulations by hodlers, and inevitably some will succeed, as did Willy.

Hell, Bitstamp probably has a whole folder with detailed emergency procedures of what to do when the price gets too low for them. Remember that at equivalent volume levels in BTC, a declining price means declining profits for them.


knock knock bitstamp.

mr regulator is at your doorstep.

no more shady business/willy bots.
It's perfectly legal to manipulate Bitcoin prices. There have been no charges against MtGox for manipulation.
417  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 08:21:43 PM
418  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 08:11:39 PM
lol

bitstamp talking about taking down accounts that are not verified (they are requesting ID, they are not giving you a second chance to withdraw)
You aren't thinking like a criminal. The criminals will just acquire fake IDs, get verified, buy BTC and withdraw.

I actually think this was a manipulative move done by Bitstamp to stop its descent and propel it upwards. I expect many more of such manipulations by hodlers, and inevitably some will succeed, as did Willy.

Hell, Bitstamp probably has a whole folder with detailed emergency procedures of what to do when the price gets too low for them. Remember that at equivalent volume levels in BTC, a declining price means declining profits for them.
419  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 08:06:48 PM
I'm not going to advertise their names, but if you think there are no more (established) Bitcoin taking darknet market places, you are mistaken.
Come on man, this forum needs its dose of psilocybin. Cheesy
420  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 06, 2014, 08:05:19 PM
How to become a trading pro: Enter position based on gut feeling. Don't have any plan to realize possible gains because you are a long-term hodler after all. Get stuck when tide turns on you, you obviously can't sell anymore because that would mean locking in a loss, thus making you wrong. Start posting frantically about how this is the fault of x and y and z.

Congratulations, you have become a ShroomsKit.
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