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401  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [5000 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: July 20, 2014, 12:25:08 AM
Of course stratum was a serious leap forward and the collaberation with the operator of one of slush's pools major rivals at the time helped cerment it's future.

Just FYI, Stratum wasn't developed with any collaboration.  It was just a coincidence that while Slush was making stratum, BTC Guild (with the help of ArtForz) was also working on ASIC-capable mining protocol changes.  The solution to fixing getwork's inefficiencies was very obvious, and in the end the two different protocols were virtually identical in function, just slightly different in syntax.  The BTC Guild protocol was marginally more efficient (10-30% depending on block size) due to lack of markup, but Slush's was more in-line with other Bitcoin API and protocols by using JSON.  It was wasteful, but it means new implementations of the protocol could use a JSON parsing library instead of writing their own parsers.

BTC Guild ended up supporting Stratum the same night since it only took a few hours to rewrite our new pool code (using the new protocol we had designed) to use Stratum, and Slush had a working stratum<->getwork proxy available already.  It would've taken me longer to write a [unnamed-protocol]<->getwork proxy than it did to just modify my input parser to use the stratum syntax.  Giving up some efficiency wasn't a huge tradeoff, considering both protocols used so little bandwidth that a 14.4k dial-up connection could keep up with it.


EDIT:  Actually, I do recall both of us were aware that the other was working on a solution to mining protocols.  IIRC, slush had been in contact with the poclbm developer, while I had been in contact with conman/ckolivas, the cgminer developer.
402  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 19, 2014, 10:51:15 PM
So you are saying we should be ready for you to shut down without notice or be blocked based on the state we are in??
I understand not wanting to take the risk I am not belittling that at all.  I just want to have an idea what we need to plan for?
The proposal will not stand as is. It has already been pointed out that it violates federal privacy laws and interstate commerce laws.

There is a 45 day period before the regulations would go into effect, and that doesn't begin until after they are finalized (which is after a 45+ day comment period and then a revision period).  If they come into effect and still have wording which is absolutely applicable to pools, then the pool will begin shutting down and cease to exist at the end of that 45 day grace period.


At this point, I don't believe what exists currently will pass, but that doesn't mean what does come out won't still be applicable to pools in some way which makes it too risky to continue operating.  The reason for that post is that under those circumstances, the 3-month closure period identified in the 2nd post of this thread and in the FAQ on the website will be reduced from 90 days to 45 days in order to cease operations prior to the regulation going into effect.
403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: 「魚池」Discus Fish - BTC: 23200 TH - LTC: 225 GH - 4% PPS 🐟 on: July 19, 2014, 09:41:21 PM
Fixed. Thanks. We are PPS so pool luck does not affect users directly. Last 100 blocks found is available at https://www.f2pool.com/bitcoin-blocks and https://www.f2pool.com/litecoin-blocks for those who are interested and they are manually updated on a daily basis or so.

Please tell us more about your pool. How do you handle hoppers? Consider adding more info in FAQ section. For instance, I have no idea, how much I will earn per 24h with 1TH/s pointed towards your pool. Whats PPS rate now? Are you capable of variable difficulty? Do you use stratum?

Thanks!

Your last 2 questions are directly answered in the first post (Stratum, variable difficulty).
404  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 19, 2014, 05:20:40 AM
And so it begins.  New York regulators are now proposing things which would make it essentially illegal for anybody to use Bitcoin in that state without being registered. It is so over-reaching that it would even catch things like the Bitcoin tipbot on reddit, which would be an illegally operating entity if it allows you to tip a New York resident.

http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf
I've read several articles about this proposal and most of them seem to give the same quote, that merchant and consumers using bitcoin strictly for the sale of Goods and Services are exempt. I view the fact that you collect a 2% fee for providing me the service of access to bitcoin mining software and a service of reasonable security protection from online attackers, makes you a simple merchant and 'us' the consumers of your service. Therefore "We" are not subject to the SDN verification as well as State Licensing. Though you may want to tweak the support page to make it clear 'You are only providing a Service and are not a Bank, Loan Agent, or Monetary Transfer Provider'.

The problem is it isn't worth the risk to be operating in the grey area of how it's interpreted.  Prosecutors will always have the upper hand on that one, especially when they have could throw enough prosecutors/lawyers with a combined annual salary higher than the gross income received from the pool in its lifetime.
405  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1450 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] on: July 19, 2014, 02:01:28 AM
This is an average of the luck percentages listed on the block timeline.
If you go back to May 15,the luck goes to 46.81 and average work per block goes to 9,886,480,396
Isn't lower better with regards to that number

I may be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain you can't simply take the average of CDFs to result in average luck.  If you want a number that is easier to compare with other pools (which report luck as earnings compared to expectation):  Average Difficulty / Shares Submitted.  That gives you the percentage expressed as a decimal (1.00 = 100%, 1.1 = 110%, 0.9 = 90%), and is how much was earned vs how much was expected in that period.  You should be including orphan+stale blocks in this figure.  Higher is better.
406  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Ghash.io Offers More Empty Promises To Bitcoin Miners on: July 18, 2014, 10:16:20 AM
"Unlike BTC Guild, Ghash.io does not have a set mitigation plan" = BTC Guild mitigation plan is closed and has been for some time (as stated here by Guild themselves, so they have no plan currently)

I don't recall stating it is closed at any time, but even if so, the exact same plan with modifications to fit the changes to the pool (like PPS no longer being a part of it at all) would be put into effect if it ever happened.  That's unlikely though, given the only way you're going to get 51% anymore is if your pool also houses it's own massive private mining farm.
407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What you like and dont like from the bitcoin regulation draft? on: July 18, 2014, 07:40:14 AM
I don't like that it currently implies New York (state) will be able to fine and prosecute businesses with no physical nexus in New York, if somebody from New York accesses them.  Since there is no way to guarantee that doesn't happen, it means it is unsafe to run anything Bitcoin related in the United States (other than as a merchant who accepts it), or possibly even in countries which are too friendly to the United States.

If that regulation passes, every pool with an owner/operator in the US will be forced to shut its doors.  Given the framing of these regulations, there is no way a pool can generate the revenue needed to comply with the requirements.  Better hope GHash isn't full of shit about their 40% promise, since about 18% of the network is probably going to be moving there in the next 90-120 days.
408  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 17, 2014, 11:33:51 PM
And so it begins.  New York regulators are now proposing things which would make it essentially illegal for anybody to use Bitcoin in that state without being registered. It is so over-reaching that it would even catch things like the Bitcoin tipbot on reddit, which would be an illegally operating entity if it allows you to tip a New York resident.

http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf
Where are you / the pool based ?

I'm in PA.

Nevada currently, but this regulation would affect the pool if it has users in New York.  And I doubt a "I agree I'm not a resident of New York" checkbox would be enough.  Luckily this has 45 days of commenting, then review, and then there are 45 days after it's put into effect before it is enforced.  Quite frankly, if something even remotely close to what is currently open for comment goes into effect, the pool will probably be forced to close.

Living in the US makes trying to sidestep/ignore this a non-option.  I doubt they'd chase international pool owners, but depending on what country they're in, I wouldn't exactly assume they're safe (US doesn't have a history of respecting international borders when it comes to internet businesses).
409  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Begining of the END for BTC. Bitcoin is becoming ultra regulated currency on: July 17, 2014, 11:07:19 PM
Just to point out how poorly written the regulations are:

The bitcoin tip-bot on Reddit would fall under this regulation if it allowed users to tip people that reside in New York (or if the operator itself was in New York).
410  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 17, 2014, 11:03:01 PM
And so it begins.  New York regulators are now proposing things which would make it essentially illegal for anybody to use Bitcoin in that state without being registered. It is so over-reaching that it would even catch things like the Bitcoin tipbot on reddit, which would be an illegally operating entity if it allows you to tip a New York resident.

http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf
411  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 16, 2014, 10:23:24 PM
I've been noticing a big surge in emails attempting to distribute a virus, using Bitcoin related subject lines.  Emails pretending to be from various manufacturers with "invoices" attached (virus in a .jar), others pretending to be from cex.io and ghash.io as well.  While I know at least some of these are likely targeting me specifically (I've had some pretending to be from pool users), some of them look much more generic.

So this is just going out there as a reminder that you shouldn't click links in email or download attachments you were not expecting.  There is absolutely no reason for a Bitcoin company to send you an invoice as an attachment.  Summer time has always seen a big surge in phishing attempts, and another surge in account compromises from users who got tricked by them.  Luckily there hasn't been any noticeable surge in "my account as hacked" type emails over the last few months.
412  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What happened at block 310853. Somebody get lucky in Montreal? on: July 16, 2014, 04:55:46 PM
You do realize that it's KnC finding those blocks, right?  It's not some rich yahoo in the great white north solo-mining with a few petahash... well, I guess if you consider Sweden the great white north and KnC is certainly a couple rich yahoos... lol.

Actually it came from stratum. Btcguild.com hosted in Montreal.
http://www.iplocationfinder.com/stratum.btcguild.com

The loot went to
https://blockchain.info/address/1H1sq6Msgt9HjRrBuz8ieZdThzWXS6oPVA

When it first came out it showed 102% of network hash.

Name Server: GINA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: JOSH.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM

Are also owned by Btcguild.

Is it possible to hijack a large cloud and make it do, sha 256 for a minute?





It was first seen (on blockchain.info) relayed from stratum.btcguild.com.  That means nothing as it relates to the source, which is why blockchain.info doesn't attribute the block to BTC Guild (because it wasn't one of ours).  The block was found by KNCMiner's private farm.  1H1sq6Msgt9HjRrBuz8ieZdThzWXS6oPVA is KNC Miner's mining farm address.
413  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 15, 2014, 12:43:19 AM
Why not make everyone login to their account and confirm their BTC address, and then do forced withdraws once their balance goes over a certain amount?

Accounts that are not confirmed within a reasonable period of time (say 30 days) can be suspended.
Not a bad idea but I say the higher fees for these accounts would be the best deterrent.

Say anything over 1 BTC incurs a 5-10% extra daily "maintenance" fee which is deducted from the accounts balance.
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That is essentially theft in my mind.  The same with suspending accounts for inactivity.  Every coin earned should be capable of being withdrawn, up until the site is no longer operational.  Even then, the stated policy is *at least* a 3 month window for inactive users to come back and get their coins out.
414  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 15, 2014, 12:18:47 AM
So why not set a forced withdraw if / when a users account balance gets to something like .2 since I assume what your talking about is people saving up with .5 or higher.

Edit: Or just impose higher fees on these people to try and deter them from doing it.

I don't do forced withdraws because there is always a chance that somebody has a wallet on their account that is no longer valid (lost keys, online wallet, defunct exchange, etc).  And if the wallet is locked, there is a chance in the case of old+inactive accounts that the wallet points to something like MtGox or one of the many online wallet scams, meaning sending the payout would just give the coins to a thief.


okay I am set at 0.1

 do you want it to be lower?

I can set at .05 >

by your request I will do that.


I made it .05 for btc and .2 for nmc

The post is mostly targeted at users who have balances in excess of 1 BTC.  Some even have balances in excess of 100 BTC, which are the ones that really scare me due to the fact that if multiple users like that withdraw at once the hot wallet will be empty and cause withdrawal delays for the entire pool.

If you already receive payouts at least once a week, there is no need to tweak your withdrawal settings, unless 1 week of mining is 25+ BTC, in which case you should probably target daily withdrawals.
415  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 14, 2014, 08:53:00 PM
This is one of the ways BTC Guild *could* be forced to shut down as well.  Just like dooglus, I would not keep the site running in the face of new legislation that was too vague as to who it is aimed at.  The problem with JustDice and mining pools is that there is no reason for a user to comply with any type of KYC rules.  There are plenty of other sites they can go to hosted in other countries which wouldn't require it, so the moment a US law comes in that threatens the need for KYC it would immediately kill any US-based pool.  There's simply nobody that would volunteer that information when there is absolutely nothing preventing them from moving to ghash.io/slush/bitminter, which are all run by people not in the United States.

I feel like most of the US KYC laws are only going to be targeted at BTC/USD conversions and possibly vice versa.

Regardless - it's a fair warning to make even though it seems based on an incredible abundance of caution rather than an indication of a forthcoming policy shift.

Yes, so far the US has been very focused on simply regulating the point where virtual currencies are converted into fiat currency.  However, depending on how widely accepted Bitcoin becomes, that may end up being changed.

But still, the warning is mostly just to try to get people to keep their balances lower.  It's a big headache/liability to have to constantly play this balancing act between the hot and cold wallet.  There shouldn't be single users that have balances in excess of 10-20% of the hot wallet balance.
416  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 13, 2014, 09:38:28 PM
A small bug was stopping wallet addresses from being verified as valid, so it was rejecting attempts to change BTC addresses.  This has been fixed.  The EU stratum server also had a very brief interruption, and should be working in very shortly.


EDIT for clarification:  The EU stratum *mining* was not interrupted, only the initial connection server which is used to filter botnet/DDoS traffic before it reaches any mining servers.  Most users should not have seen any interruption!  It only affected new connections attempting to be established.
417  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 13, 2014, 09:31:05 PM
That being said, I've never heard of Just Dice, who are they and what happened ? I assume they're something US based and have some sort of gambling thing running for em given the name Just Dice.

Edit: I see where you said they're canadian now lol

JustDice was one of the largest bitcoin "dice" gambling sites.  It had a provably fair system similar to SatoshiDice, but it didn't rely on all bets being placed on the blockchain, which meant significantly faster playing.  It also allowed users to pick their odds (payout scaling obviously).  What made it unique was the house edge was only 1%, and users could BE the house by investing in JustDice.  It had realtime stats and every time somebody lost a roll, it proportionally split the earnings among investors, and the same if somebody lost.  It was run by dooglus, a fairly well respected member of the forums.

Recently some Canadian legislation passed which is very vague.  It's clear the intention was targetting exchanges between CAD and BTC, but the wording did not specify that, causing dooglus to proactively shut the site down.


This is one of the ways BTC Guild *could* be forced to shut down as well.  Just like dooglus, I would not keep the site running in the face of new legislation that was too vague as to who it is aimed at.  The problem with JustDice and mining pools is that there is no reason for a user to comply with any type of KYC rules.  There are plenty of other sites they can go to hosted in other countries which wouldn't require it, so the moment a US law comes in that threatens the need for KYC it would immediately kill any US-based pool.  There's simply nobody that would volunteer that information when there is absolutely nothing preventing them from moving to ghash.io/slush/bitminter, which are all run by people not in the United States.
418  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 13, 2014, 06:26:52 PM
Do not use pools as a bank

Posting this reminder as once again a significant number of coins had built up in the hot wallet and have been transferred to the cold wallet.  Please do not use the pool as your bank.  The incoming coins to the pool should be almost exactly mirrored with withdrawals, with the exception of small balances unable to meet minimum/auto withdrawal levels.  When this doesn't happen, it forces the pool to move coins into cold wallets, and in the event of a sudden spike in withdrawals, can severely delay the availability of funds since they have to be moved back to the hot wallet.

Just posting this again.  After seeing Just-Dice's closure recently due to Canadian law changes, I want to know that if something happened in the US which forces BTC Guild to do the same it's not going to result in funds that can't be paid out without starting a massive KYC process before allowing withdrawals.  Just-Dice had a few weeks warning.  That same luxury may not be available if it happens in the US!  The pool's official policy (as stated in the FAQ and 2nd post in this thread) has always been that in the event of a closure there will be a 3 month window where the pool is no longer running but withdrawals are open, but there is also the caveat that this policy may be superseded if it is no longer legal for BTC Guild to operate in the same way.


It makes no sense to allow weeks/months worth of coins to build up on your BTC Guild account.  You cannot make specific withdrawals to people to use it as a limited wallet, only full balance or 0.01 intervals, neither of which are useful for conducting Bitcoin transactions (and that's on purpose!).
419  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 13, 2014, 07:09:32 AM
1 week luck at 95% seems a lot better and there's still some good blocks still cooking. I noticed the hashrate seems to have gone up a bit.  Fair weather miners?  Tongue

Hash rate has gone down, not up.

Wow.  So weird, I swear it said that we were at 11.5PH/s.  I refreshed the page and it 10,733.  I guess I didn't look at the graph.  Is the pool speed reading that volatile or am I tripping?

You must've been seeing things.  It doesn't move more than 100-200 TH/s between shifts normally.
420  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [11000 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers on: July 13, 2014, 07:01:47 AM
1 week luck at 95% seems a lot better and there's still some good blocks still cooking. I noticed the hashrate seems to have gone up a bit.  Fair weather miners?  Tongue

Hash rate has gone down, not up.
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