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901  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [AUTO SWITCH] ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta - Multipool Done Right on: March 08, 2014, 06:59:48 PM
Neither API nor dash`board are recognising any worker data

API: {"worker_stats":[0],"error":null}
dashboard: "Worker summary" table is empty

However my shares seem to be accepted by the pool. As I mentioned before it's not a big problem but I've added a couple more miners tonight and I don't know if I've set them up properly. Any ideas?

Did you hide toggle off the visibility of your workers on the management page?
902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [AUTO SWITCH] ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta - Multipool Done Right on: March 08, 2014, 01:57:10 AM
Worker speed charts are up - nice work, eleuthria!

Still playing with ideas for the earnings side.  It's awkward showing multiple coins due to the disparity between the  amount of coins you might earn (with some coins being released in blocks of 10-100, and others 100k, and others over 1m).

I'm looking into an effective method to provide BTC equivalent earnings, but it's probably going to take a few days of playing with it internally before it's ready, since not everybody converts things to BTC, yet the "BTC Equivalent" stat is the only one that really matters.
903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [AUTO SWITCH] ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta - Multipool Done Right on: March 07, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
when i have time i will look at them again. what is acceptable stale rate for this multi-coin pool ??

It varies by hardware.  Faster hardware can handle higher intensities with less "dead time" where it ignores the new block updates.  The pool puts penalties of 5-20% on the profit rating for low difficulty coins depending on just how low it is.

If you run at low intensities your stale rate will be in the sub-1% no matter what coin we mine.  But that might cost you more in speed than you gain in lack of stales.  So it's a balancing act.
904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [AUTO SWITCH] ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta - Multipool Done Right on: March 07, 2014, 08:39:08 PM
Just for those wondering on stale rates, here's a breakdown on intensity:

--< see original above to lots snipped >--


Would reducing the worksize parameter have the same effect on stales as lowering intensity?

thanks,
Sigg

My understanding is that wouldn't have any effect, but I may be wrong.
905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [AUTO SWITCH] ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta - Multipool Done Right on: March 07, 2014, 07:40:59 PM
Just for those wondering on stale rates, here's a breakdown on intensity:

When you're mining on your GPU, you send it batches of work of different sizes.  When your GPU is working on a batch, it is completely unresponsive.  It cannot be interrupted to be fed new work.  Once it finishes the batch, it gives it back to the miner and it's pushed to the pool.  By running a higher intensity, you remove the inefficiencies of swapping batches of work, but you increase the amount of time your GPU is completely ignoring new block announcements.

So you have a tradeoff of stale rate vs hash rate.  ScryptGuild's profit switcher already factors in the increase in stales from the very low difficulty coins.  It will switch to them only if the profit differential is greater than the expected increase in stales.  Running at high intensity on a low difficulty coin will *always* increase stale rates by a significant (3-5% or possibly higher) amount.  There is nothing a pool can do about this, your GPU is actively ignoring work updates.  But the profit switching within the pool can penalize coins to factor in stale rate vs profitability, to make it so the higher stale rate is worth having in order to maximize your profit.


Additionally, ScryptGuild does not mine very high difficulty coins at the moment, except for Doge, which is not "too high".  Right now ScryptGuild generally falls back to Worldcoin when all of the "random" reward coins are on terrible reward blocks.  Strictly speaking, Litecoin is a higher profit coin than Worldcoin.  However, the pool speed compared to Litecoin difficulty introduces *massive* amounts of variance due to our expected time to solve a Litecoin block.  While the average time might only be 45-60 minutes, a bad block might take 5-8 HOURS if we're unlucky.  Worldcoin trades off a few % of profit for a steady return.


906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [AUTO SWITCH] ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta - Multipool Done Right on: March 07, 2014, 03:45:08 AM
pointed 11.5mh at your pool

I like the convert to LTC idea. I will be using this.

Again:  There is no current plan (it's on a sideboard at the moment) to convert _TO_ LTC.  It may come in at some point, but it is not currently on the roadmap.
907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [AUTO SWITCH] ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta - Multipool Done Right on: March 07, 2014, 01:32:50 AM
Graphs for hash rate should become available late tonight/early tomorrow.  Idle Warning emails should start working around mid-day tomorrow as well.  Once these are done, I'll be splitting work between setting up BTC-e API integration for auto conversion of LTC (and soon FTC) and getting the daily earnings information available.  Both should be working before the end of the weekend.
908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [AUTO SWITCH] ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta - Multipool Done Right on: March 06, 2014, 05:54:50 AM
Does anyone know where I can find a Windows binary of cgminer 3.7.2?  This is the latest ver with GPU support if I recall.

I personally don't want to link to files if I don't know they're safe, but I recall a binary for sgminer being linked on Reddit for both 4.0 and 4.1 when they were released.  sgminer is similar to the kalroth cgminer fork:  A scrypt-focused fork of the 3.7.2 cgminer code.
909  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [AUTO SWITCH] ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta - Multipool Done Right on: March 06, 2014, 05:53:33 AM
A minor update was pushed to the auto conversion.  The hourly conversion will only trade coins where you have at least 0.00001000 BTC worth of that coin.  Once per day an auto conversion will run that flushes the entire balance without this limit to clean up any dust you still have lying around.
910  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: In Defense of a Premine Coin Development Fund on: March 06, 2014, 01:31:24 AM
Having no premine, fair block rewards, with a fair announcement, can leave most devs virtually coinless for all their hard effort.
 

Sorry, my uncontrollable laughter stopped me from reading past that line, referring to what the "devs" of altcoins do as hard effort.  Hell, referring to them as devs is already a stretch in most cases.
911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta looking for additional miners on: March 06, 2014, 01:13:18 AM
Hello eleuthria,

apparently, on klondikecoin, there was a fork, I tried to solo mine KDC and it was showing good return of coins (but that was only because I did not know about the error) , but it looks like pool is mining on wrong (unvalid) part of the chain. I know now, that switching algorithm is not pointing to that coin, but it is there in dropdown menu Roll Eyes.

[edit]
as I thought (from KDC forum): fork of KDC at block #84576 on Sunday, March 2, 2014.

Hadn't been paying attention to the coins that we don't use in the profit switcher (KDC/FRY/NOBL were picked for alpha because they were very low diff).  Updated to the new fork on that.  Haven't figured out how I'm going to manage retiring coins from the system just yet.
912  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1.3 TH] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too on: March 05, 2014, 09:27:45 PM
Blockchain.info is saying 31 blocks in the last 4 days

And if you read what I wrote, I addressed that.  Blockchain.info defaults a TON of IPs to Deepbit even though they have absolutely nothing to do with them.  It's because blockchain.info's block assignment system is garbage and makes assumptions based on times where Deepbit used to be 20-40% of the network.
913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta looking for additional miners on: March 05, 2014, 06:21:27 PM
I've fixed an error (damn typo) in the profit switching algorithm.  Litecoin was supposed to be receiving a penalty to it's profit score due to the expected high variance.  While statistically it may be worth mining as much as we have, it causes big swings in our daily profit due to the variance caused by mining a 2500-3500 difficulty coin with only 2-3 GH/s.  Litecoin's profit rating is now being penalized by a decent margin.

Our average profit will go down slightly from the penalty (since we're ignoring a coin that should be most profitable at the time), but it will be more consistent.  The penalty is variable, based on the pool speed vs. network difficulty of a high difficulty coin.

This error was not hurting our expected earnings, but it was causing situations like the last two days, where 1/3 to 1/2 of our shares were going to LTC for some shifts, which was the right choice, but we weren't hitting any blocks due to bad luck.  Consistency in preferred in this case, and is worth a slight reduction in expected payout.
914  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [5500 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: March 05, 2014, 05:59:34 PM
I deleted the most recent posts about ScryptGuild.  Please keep ScryptGuild questions in the ScryptGuild thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=457016.0
915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta looking for additional miners on: March 05, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
Quick question.

I can't tell if it's just something with scryptguild or in general (it's a new thing I'm noticing, never had this on other pools) but once in a while I'll check my info and the hashrate just simply seems to stop, yet I'm getting a bunch of "unknown work".

What am I doing wrong that is causing this? Is it simply because my setup barfs and doesn't recover correctly?

What I'm seeing:
161,584 / 0 / 0 / 122,048

That unknown level just keeps going up, so it's clearly running but not correctly.

What software are you using?  Unknown work means one of three things:


1) You're submitting work that didn't come from ScryptGuild
2) You're submitting work that is more than 10 blocks old for that specific coin (meaning it's stale 10 times over, so old the pool no longer has record of sending it to you)
3) Your miner is screwing something up and making the work submissions unrecognizable
916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta looking for additional miners on: March 05, 2014, 05:51:09 PM
Is that FRY?  Someone asked a good question earlier, why do we apparently have FRY blocks, but no FRY listing?

FRY is a coin that was added in alpha because it was a fresh launch.  It is not traded on any decent exchanges though.  The dashboard only includes coins which are part of the profit switching algorithm, which means the coins are traded on Cryptsy or BTC-e (exchanges with good volume and an API that allows for automatic trading).


Sorry if this is a silly question. How to Payouts work? Is it like other multipools where it auto pays after .01 and any balances over .001 are paid on Sundays? Can you manually cash out? Thanks for your help!

Automatic payouts run every hour.  You set your threshold on the Wallets page.  If your balance exceeds your threshold, your entire balance will be sent at the next automatic payout.  The minimum is 0.01 for any coin.
917  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [1.3 TH] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too on: March 05, 2014, 08:24:10 AM
They Found a BLOCK TONIGHT

Not according to Deepbit.  Blockchain.info still likes to say blocks came from Deepbit when they haven't.  Last I heard, it's been many months since Deepbit actually solved a block.  At its current speed, the average time for blocks is something like 18 months.
918  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta looking for additional miners on: March 05, 2014, 08:19:52 AM
All jokes aside, where does Feathercoin stand?

It's one of the next on the list.  I'll probably be adding at least 3-4 more coins this weekend, along with getting the integration with BTC-e's API so auto-convert can work for LTC.
919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ScryptGuild (BTC Guild) Beta looking for additional miners on: March 05, 2014, 05:02:09 AM
OK,  being an old btcguild user, I was quite happy when I saw this... just pointed my miners your way...    The first thing I noticed..I'm getting almost 10% stales...  is this to be expected?  Over on wafflepool I was getting under 2 percent...

Going to stick with it for a couple days to see how it is profit-wise even with the stales... just wondering if everyone else is seeing the same?

Thanks,
Sigg.

Edit:  I just checked ping times and I'm averaging about 47ms.  So I don't think network is a significant factor in the stales...   Also getting about the same rate on both my linux and Win7 boxes.

If you run your miners on a very high intensity, you can see very large amounts of stales, especially when the pool is pointed towards coins that a lot of multipools are on, or very low diff coins.  Wafflepool lately has been on Auroracoin a lot lately, which has 10 minute block times.  ScryptGuild on the other hand is bouncing between much lower difficulty coins because Auroracoin is simply too high difficulty to bother with at current pool speed (people would bitch about 6 hours without any blocks).

ScryptGuild's profit algorithm already takes stale rates from low difficulty coins into account when evaluating which coin to move to.  However, 10% is *WAY* above normal.  If you don't run at high intensity, the stale rates are ~1% on my 90-100ms ping (with spikes due to being on wireless).  Intensity will cause stales because it means your GPUs are running larger batches of work before allowing an interrupt for a new block notification.
920  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [5500 TH] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+Orphan+NMC, Stratum, Private Servers on: March 04, 2014, 08:32:50 PM
An automatic payout failed earlier due to the hot wallet not having enough funds.  Moving funds from one of the cold wallets now and the automatic payout will be resent once those funds confirmed.  Just an explanation of why the system ran dry:


1) The MtGox hysteria caused a spike in withdrawals.
2) Bad luck meant the wallet wasn't refilling as fast as normal.
3) The extremely good luck after that bad luck meant we had a significant amount of funds in the hot wallet that couldn't be spent.  Mined blocks can't be spent til 120 confirmations, but BTC Guild credits accounts immediately since it pays for orphans.


The new auto payout should get pushed out within the hour.  This only affected one automatic payout.  All other payouts have continued to work normally.


UPDATE:  Hot wallet refill complete.  The failed automatic payout has been resent to all who were affected.
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