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4121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: July 30, 2017, 09:02:09 AM
Is evolution a hoax?

I think it really comes down to perception. What do we call evolution?

In my mind there's no question that evolution does exist, even us humans are evolving every day. + evolution by natural selection as described here:



This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

But I'm not convinced, not even after all the brainwashing and conditioning,  that dinosaur's existed. I think they may be fictional and made up, to keep humans more easily grounded. To make them feel more lost and unconnected on this life journey. To make us feel like we don't really belong here, and that us being alive is merely a weird coincidence.

  I have read that Dino's started off as two professors grudge match, a competition of who could find more proof of dinosaurs. Weirdest thing is, that before these professors started their race, no one had ever heard about dinosaurs, and these two men, happened to find dinosaurs bones exclusively on their expedition trips.


You lack critical thinking
4122  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 30, 2017, 09:00:48 AM

Claiming that everything outside the universe needs no cause doesn't make it true.

The claim isn't what makes it true. The fact that if it has a cause, it is part of our universe. This is what makes it true.

In other words, show us something that is not part of the universe, yet has a cause.

Cool

How would I do that? Have you studied something that is outside the universe? If it has a cause it's a part of the universe and if it doesn't, it's not? How do you know all this, maybe you are god.

Answered your questions, here, already.    Cool

No, you just claimed things without any evidence. You said that is a fact that if something has a cause it must be part of our universe, where is the evidence backing that statement?
4123  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 30, 2017, 12:06:44 AM

Claiming that everything outside the universe needs no cause doesn't make it true.

The claim isn't what makes it true. The fact that if it has a cause, it is part of our universe. This is what makes it true.

In other words, show us something that is not part of the universe, yet has a cause.

Cool

How would I do that? Have you studied something that is outside the universe? If it has a cause it's a part of the universe and if it doesn't, it's not? How do you know all this, maybe you are god.
4124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: July 30, 2017, 12:05:32 AM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof.

Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands.

Cool
Evolution as more proof than your GODS Grin..

Your proof that evolution exists WHY because just listen to yourself .ZAP and everything was so Cheesy.

I blame your parents for making you believe in fairy tales  Grin..
So i suppose it's not your fault your BAT SHIT CRAZY about your zappy dee zap GODS..

Again, all the evidences that suggest evolution, can suggest other things, as well. Because of this, there is no proof for evolution. Then when we add all the reasons why evolution is impossible, we find that evolution is a big, fat hoax.

Cool

What does that even mean
4125  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 29, 2017, 09:12:44 PM
I do not know what, but I am very concerned about the directions of atheism in humanity. Blasphemy is a very great sin and it seems to me that today the whole planet suffers from this disease.

Believing in the bible is also a sin in other religions so i don't know about the directions of christianity. Believing in other gods is a great sin and it seems to me that everyone believes in different gods.
4126  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: July 29, 2017, 08:19:54 PM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.

Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof.

Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about.

Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands.

Cool

Yet you strongly believe in the bible. Did you see god creating the universe?
4127  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 29, 2017, 08:19:01 PM
Im not sure god has to be seen as something to provide for material needs.

More something to train spirit to be less dependent on materialism.

Im for one encouraging the practice of fasting to train the body to be less driven by needs.

I saw a video last time showing the tibetan kids, walking with bare foot for kilometers in the Mountain, all smiling & all, and they were like look at those chinese Kids they are lazy they cant walk a Mile without crying like babies lol

Kinda show something too ..

It's funny also to see on my facebook as i have friends from all over the world

French : always complaining,  never happy, always needs more.

American : more or less same.

Drama drama.

Money money.


The only who are just chilling with familly & friend and being smiling and happy not complaining about politics & economy are the one from south africa, or hispanics lol and they have not really much money or food lol

Even if you travel to islands like reunion or new caledonia, even burma, people live with very little and they are much less miserable than when moving back to big cities like Paris london or new York.


As long as you focus on your material needs and fear of lacking your always going to be scared of everything, anxiety & co.

Specially in developed country,  it's not like there is really that much scarcity of anything.

And nature already provide enough food .

Cause and effect shows that God is the source of all things. It works like this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool


You said cause and effect doesn't prove god in an earlier post.<- You misquote me. I said that C&E alone doesn't prove God. We don't know that everything needs a cause, maybe some events happen spontaneously.<- Haven't found a spontaneous event that we know factually is spontaneous. But we have countless billions of C&E events. There is actually evidence that some sub-atomic particles form and disappear for no reason, with no cause. The universe might not need a ''cause'' either, time might not be viewed as a vector quantity, but rather a scaler one. Under this, there are no beginnings, and the universe was the start of time itself.<- Have you read Peter Pan and the Wizard of Oz? There was no time when the universe began to exist, because there is no 'before' time itself didn't exist. Just because something caused the universe, doesn't mean a god did so.<- Under the circumstances of the universe, where C&E, entropy, and complexity exist as they do, show me something that fits the definition of "God" but is not God. Also, there is a jump between 'something happened' and 'a man sits on a cloud watching humanity and rewarding good people with eternal life, meanwhile controlling everything' that the first cause argument fails to solve.<- God is not man. Man may have some of God's attributes. When God understands and controls everything, He does it in ways that man barely understands at all. Or have you been tracking a molecule of wind as it travels around the world?

Finally, and perhaps most damningly, the argument has a serious loophole. One of the premises is everything needs a cause, yet the argument fails to say where God came from. (Which you never explained)

Actually, you never seem to listen - or is it comprehend - when I tell you about where God came from.

"Things" are of this universe. Since God is not of this universe, He is not a thing. But if He takes on the quality of a thing to some extent, He still maintains his quality of NOT being a thing. C&E isn't something that effects God unless He wants to be affected by it.

Like we barely know any details about the universe, in the same way our limitations keep us from knowing anything about that which is outside of the universe. Questions about the details of the things that make up God are not even things that we can ask, because God is so extremely different than us.

You are wasting your time with this constant questioning, which does not apply to God even as a question.


Cool

So because god is outside the universe he doesn't need a cause? How did you determine that?

Cause is only something that applies to this universe. In Heaven, or in some other universe, there might be a corresponding thing like cause. However, it isn't cause. If it were, it would be part of this universe rather than being outside of this universe.

God doesn't have a cause. You are wasting your time with this constant questioning, which does not apply to God even as a question.

Cool

''In Heaven, or in some other universe, there might be a corresponding thing like cause. However, it isn't cause. If it were, it would be part of this universe rather than being outside of this universe.'' - Badecker 2017

Why would things outside the universe have no cause? How can you possibly know that? You are claiming to know things that are impossible to know, you are a joke.

You are so funny. You write the answer to your question. Then you ask the question right below it.

In the past you would ask a question, the answer to which was written several posts up. Now you are asking the question directly following its answer.

You are becoming rather humorous.

 Cheesy

Claiming that everything outside the universe needs no cause doesn't make it true.
4128  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 29, 2017, 12:24:40 PM
Im not sure god has to be seen as something to provide for material needs.

More something to train spirit to be less dependent on materialism.

Im for one encouraging the practice of fasting to train the body to be less driven by needs.

I saw a video last time showing the tibetan kids, walking with bare foot for kilometers in the Mountain, all smiling & all, and they were like look at those chinese Kids they are lazy they cant walk a Mile without crying like babies lol

Kinda show something too ..

It's funny also to see on my facebook as i have friends from all over the world

French : always complaining,  never happy, always needs more.

American : more or less same.

Drama drama.

Money money.


The only who are just chilling with familly & friend and being smiling and happy not complaining about politics & economy are the one from south africa, or hispanics lol and they have not really much money or food lol

Even if you travel to islands like reunion or new caledonia, even burma, people live with very little and they are much less miserable than when moving back to big cities like Paris london or new York.


As long as you focus on your material needs and fear of lacking your always going to be scared of everything, anxiety & co.

Specially in developed country,  it's not like there is really that much scarcity of anything.

And nature already provide enough food .

Cause and effect shows that God is the source of all things. It works like this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool


You said cause and effect doesn't prove god in an earlier post.<- You misquote me. I said that C&E alone doesn't prove God. We don't know that everything needs a cause, maybe some events happen spontaneously.<- Haven't found a spontaneous event that we know factually is spontaneous. But we have countless billions of C&E events. There is actually evidence that some sub-atomic particles form and disappear for no reason, with no cause. The universe might not need a ''cause'' either, time might not be viewed as a vector quantity, but rather a scaler one. Under this, there are no beginnings, and the universe was the start of time itself.<- Have you read Peter Pan and the Wizard of Oz? There was no time when the universe began to exist, because there is no 'before' time itself didn't exist. Just because something caused the universe, doesn't mean a god did so.<- Under the circumstances of the universe, where C&E, entropy, and complexity exist as they do, show me something that fits the definition of "God" but is not God. Also, there is a jump between 'something happened' and 'a man sits on a cloud watching humanity and rewarding good people with eternal life, meanwhile controlling everything' that the first cause argument fails to solve.<- God is not man. Man may have some of God's attributes. When God understands and controls everything, He does it in ways that man barely understands at all. Or have you been tracking a molecule of wind as it travels around the world?

Finally, and perhaps most damningly, the argument has a serious loophole. One of the premises is everything needs a cause, yet the argument fails to say where God came from. (Which you never explained)

Actually, you never seem to listen - or is it comprehend - when I tell you about where God came from.

"Things" are of this universe. Since God is not of this universe, He is not a thing. But if He takes on the quality of a thing to some extent, He still maintains his quality of NOT being a thing. C&E isn't something that effects God unless He wants to be affected by it.

Like we barely know any details about the universe, in the same way our limitations keep us from knowing anything about that which is outside of the universe. Questions about the details of the things that make up God are not even things that we can ask, because God is so extremely different than us.

You are wasting your time with this constant questioning, which does not apply to God even as a question.


Cool

So because god is outside the universe he doesn't need a cause? How did you determine that?

Cause is only something that applies to this universe. In Heaven, or in some other universe, there might be a corresponding thing like cause. However, it isn't cause. If it were, it would be part of this universe rather than being outside of this universe.

God doesn't have a cause. You are wasting your time with this constant questioning, which does not apply to God even as a question.

Cool

''In Heaven, or in some other universe, there might be a corresponding thing like cause. However, it isn't cause. If it were, it would be part of this universe rather than being outside of this universe.'' - Badecker 2017

Why would things outside the universe have no cause? How can you possibly know that? You are claiming to know things that are impossible to know, you are a joke.
4129  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: July 29, 2017, 10:36:56 AM
Actually, scientific study of the Bible, how it was written, its source, and the nation of Ancient Israel, show that it is some of the most solid science around.

Cool

I don't know in what world you live.

Of course you don't. You show us that you don't really know much of anything. You don't really need to start telling us the obvious.

There is scientific fact and there is scientific interpretation. For example. A scientist digs a bone out of the ground. He can see the bone. He analyzes a chip off the bone and finds that it is truly bone material. The size of the bone is readily evident before his eyes. These things are scientific fact.

Then the scientist guesses as to the class in history that the bone comes from. He says it is Neanderthal. He thinks this from the location of the dig. He compares it to other Neanderthal bones. He determines how much it has weathered to find that the age fits the age of the Neanderthals. So, he guesses and says it is a Neanderthal bone.

The fact is that the age of the earth is just guesses. So, he can't know for sure the age of the bone? And most of his other interpretations are based on a bunch of interpretations of other scientists regarding many things that they don't really know to be the fact. Consensus among scientists does not make fact.


Israel is a strong nation. The people of that nation are stubborn that their tradition should be kept. They have been keeping the traditions that Moses gave them back at the time of the Exodus about 3500 years ago. Would they lie about their writings? They practice them. They live them.

Since these people are strong enough to stubbornly continue their practice of recording tradition for 3500 years, what makes you think that their traditions are in any way false? Now if this were the only thing in favor of Bible truth, it still would be very strong. But the question is why Israel keeps the traditions going. The answer is Moses. Moses told them to do it. And Moses was strong enough way back then, that he influences them today through his Bible writings.

Does the strength that Moses shows us come about from lies? Moses was the adopted son/grandson of a Pharaoh. He had access to records of the world that have long since perished. And he wrote some of those records down in the Bible. The fact that his strength exists today after 3500 years in the people of Israel, shows that he wrote truth... because lies fall apart very easily, and would never have lasted a fraction of that time.

Isaiah wrote something like 450 B.C.  We have copies of his Bible writing from the Dead Sea Scrolls - from as far back as 400 B.C. - that are essentially the same as we have today. These copies have been accurately copied over a period greater than 2,000 years. This is strength.


All we have from science is a bunch of "measurements," and then a bunch of wild interpretations in their attempt to bring the measurements into congruity. What we have from the Bible is solid history - eye witness accounts from a people too stubborn to lie.

If that weren't enough, analysis of the info in the Bible is not only historically accurate, but is psychologically accurate. Coincube has been showing us information upon information in the Health and Religion thread, that shows us how important accurate, truthful religion is to health. And here is Israel, the most long-lasting nation in the world, and you would downplay their religion, the strongest religion in the world that has given them the greatest health of any?


Now, don't get me wrong. The fact that you don't even know what world you live in, isn't something that makes you less of a person. Lots of people don't understand much about life and truth. The thing that shows how bad off you are is that you would rather fight the truth than start to learn it. Is there any hope for you at all?

God saw hope for you. He wants you in Heaven with Him. That is why you are so curious about all this that you would question it. You instinctively know that there is strength in God and the Bible. You simply never heard anybody explain it like this to you before.

Isn't it about time that you accept the Bible truths you are learning, and get rid of all those scientific assumptions that don't have any strength at all?

Cool

Scientists are stubborn and smart, because of that they do their best to not fail. They use different methods to prove the age of the earth and the universe, what makes you think their methods are false? ''All we have from science is a bunch of "measurements," And all we have from the bible are a bunch of words written by a bunch of ignorant people that somehow convinced simple minded people like you. They would probably laugh if they saw how many people believe in their stupid story LOL
4130  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 29, 2017, 10:34:17 AM
Im not sure god has to be seen as something to provide for material needs.

More something to train spirit to be less dependent on materialism.

Im for one encouraging the practice of fasting to train the body to be less driven by needs.

I saw a video last time showing the tibetan kids, walking with bare foot for kilometers in the Mountain, all smiling & all, and they were like look at those chinese Kids they are lazy they cant walk a Mile without crying like babies lol

Kinda show something too ..

It's funny also to see on my facebook as i have friends from all over the world

French : always complaining,  never happy, always needs more.

American : more or less same.

Drama drama.

Money money.


The only who are just chilling with familly & friend and being smiling and happy not complaining about politics & economy are the one from south africa, or hispanics lol and they have not really much money or food lol

Even if you travel to islands like reunion or new caledonia, even burma, people live with very little and they are much less miserable than when moving back to big cities like Paris london or new York.


As long as you focus on your material needs and fear of lacking your always going to be scared of everything, anxiety & co.

Specially in developed country,  it's not like there is really that much scarcity of anything.

And nature already provide enough food .

Cause and effect shows that God is the source of all things. It works like this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool


You said cause and effect doesn't prove god in an earlier post.<- You misquote me. I said that C&E alone doesn't prove God. We don't know that everything needs a cause, maybe some events happen spontaneously.<- Haven't found a spontaneous event that we know factually is spontaneous. But we have countless billions of C&E events. There is actually evidence that some sub-atomic particles form and disappear for no reason, with no cause. The universe might not need a ''cause'' either, time might not be viewed as a vector quantity, but rather a scaler one. Under this, there are no beginnings, and the universe was the start of time itself.<- Have you read Peter Pan and the Wizard of Oz? There was no time when the universe began to exist, because there is no 'before' time itself didn't exist. Just because something caused the universe, doesn't mean a god did so.<- Under the circumstances of the universe, where C&E, entropy, and complexity exist as they do, show me something that fits the definition of "God" but is not God. Also, there is a jump between 'something happened' and 'a man sits on a cloud watching humanity and rewarding good people with eternal life, meanwhile controlling everything' that the first cause argument fails to solve.<- God is not man. Man may have some of God's attributes. When God understands and controls everything, He does it in ways that man barely understands at all. Or have you been tracking a molecule of wind as it travels around the world?

Finally, and perhaps most damningly, the argument has a serious loophole. One of the premises is everything needs a cause, yet the argument fails to say where God came from. (Which you never explained)

Actually, you never seem to listen - or is it comprehend - when I tell you about where God came from.

"Things" are of this universe. Since God is not of this universe, He is not a thing. But if He takes on the quality of a thing to some extent, He still maintains his quality of NOT being a thing. C&E isn't something that effects God unless He wants to be affected by it.

Like we barely know any details about the universe, in the same way our limitations keep us from knowing anything about that which is outside of the universe. Questions about the details of the things that make up God are not even things that we can ask, because God is so extremely different than us.

You are wasting your time with this constant questioning, which does not apply to God even as a question.


Cool

So because god is outside the universe he doesn't need a cause? How did you determine that?
4131  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 28, 2017, 10:11:21 AM
Im not sure god has to be seen as something to provide for material needs.

More something to train spirit to be less dependent on materialism.

Im for one encouraging the practice of fasting to train the body to be less driven by needs.

I saw a video last time showing the tibetan kids, walking with bare foot for kilometers in the Mountain, all smiling & all, and they were like look at those chinese Kids they are lazy they cant walk a Mile without crying like babies lol

Kinda show something too ..

It's funny also to see on my facebook as i have friends from all over the world

French : always complaining,  never happy, always needs more.

American : more or less same.

Drama drama.

Money money.


The only who are just chilling with familly & friend and being smiling and happy not complaining about politics & economy are the one from south africa, or hispanics lol and they have not really much money or food lol

Even if you travel to islands like reunion or new caledonia, even burma, people live with very little and they are much less miserable than when moving back to big cities like Paris london or new York.


As long as you focus on your material needs and fear of lacking your always going to be scared of everything, anxiety & co.

Specially in developed country,  it's not like there is really that much scarcity of anything.

And nature already provide enough food .

Cause and effect shows that God is the source of all things. It works like this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool

You said cause and effect doesn't prove god in an earlier post. We don't know that everything needs a cause, maybe some events happen spontaneously. There is actually evidence that some sub-atomic particles form and disappear for no reason, with no cause. The universe might not need a ''cause'' either, time might not be viewed as a vector quantity, but rather a scaler one. Under this, there are no beginnings, and the universe was the start of time itself. There was no time when the universe began to exist, because there is no 'before' time itself didn't exist. Just because something caused the universe, doesn't mean a god did so. Also, there is a jump between 'something happened' and 'a man sits on a cloud watching humanity and rewarding good people with eternal life, meanwhile controlling everything' that the first cause argument fails to solve.

Finally, and perhaps most damningly, the argument has a serious loophole. One of the premises is everything needs a cause, yet the argument fails to say where God came from. (Which you never explained)
4132  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: July 28, 2017, 10:01:05 AM
Actually, scientific study of the Bible, how it was written, its source, and the nation of Ancient Israel, show that it is some of the most solid science around.

Cool

I don't know in what world you live.
4133  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 28, 2017, 12:44:15 AM
Scientist usually dont believe in god because they have explanations on things that occured. They like to explain it using scientific terms. But some of them connected the bible and their smart guess creating that GOD really exists.
Many great scientists did believe that GOD was a sound explanation, see for yourself:
https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers

He said usually. The survey shows that scientists are roughly half as likely as the general public to believe in God or a higher power. According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. By contrast, 95% of Americans believe in some form of deity or higher power, according to a survey of the general public conducted by the Pew Research Center in July 2006. Specifically, more than eight-in-ten Americans (83%) say they believe in God and 12% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. Finally, the poll of scientists finds that four-in-ten scientists (41%) say they do not believe in God or a higher power, while the poll of the public finds that only 4% of Americans share this view.

So obviously scientists do believe less in god than the general population and so does people who are highly educated. According to Gallup's 2002 Index of Leading Religious Indicators*, 88% of those with postgraduate degrees believe in God or a universal spirit, compared to 97% of those with a high school education or less. More dramatically, postgraduate degree holders are less likely than those with a high school education or less to believe that religion can answer today's problems, by a margin of 51% to 68%. And those with a high school education or less are more likely than their postgraduate counterparts to say that religion is "important" or "very important" in their lives (65% to 53%). All this would seem to confirm that highly educated individuals put less emphasis on the role of religion than less educated individuals do.

Hopefully in the future people will be educated enough to make religion disappear.  
You refuse to educate yourself on the evidence and you have no scientific rebuttal to the same.
The brightest researchers recognized the truth about materialism and GOD. Science is not based on popular vote but on relating one phenomena to another. The brightest minds in science recognized that there was evidence for a higher power and that materialism is not a rational philosophy. Their claims are all based in evidence but you will not even consider their ideas, what good is science if you are expecting an outcome and refuse outside information?
You have not recognized any truth from my posts, not because I am lying about the evidence, but because your beliefs will not allow you to open your eyes to even a single truth. Prove me wrong!

Not the brightest just some scientists. I never denied that but statistics show that scientists do believe far less in god than the general population.
Oh really? Who are the brightest researchers then??
The brightest researchers like Pasteur, Wallace, Godel, Turing, and many others all rejected materialism.
statistics show that scientists do believe far less in god than the general population.
statistics show that scientists do believe far less in god than the general population.
statistics show that scientists do believe far less in god than the general population.
4134  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 27, 2017, 10:43:46 PM
Scientist usually dont believe in god because they have explanations on things that occured. They like to explain it using scientific terms. But some of them connected the bible and their smart guess creating that GOD really exists.
Many great scientists did believe that GOD was a sound explanation, see for yourself:
https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers

He said usually. The survey shows that scientists are roughly half as likely as the general public to believe in God or a higher power. According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. By contrast, 95% of Americans believe in some form of deity or higher power, according to a survey of the general public conducted by the Pew Research Center in July 2006. Specifically, more than eight-in-ten Americans (83%) say they believe in God and 12% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. Finally, the poll of scientists finds that four-in-ten scientists (41%) say they do not believe in God or a higher power, while the poll of the public finds that only 4% of Americans share this view.

So obviously scientists do believe less in god than the general population and so does people who are highly educated. According to Gallup's 2002 Index of Leading Religious Indicators*, 88% of those with postgraduate degrees believe in God or a universal spirit, compared to 97% of those with a high school education or less. More dramatically, postgraduate degree holders are less likely than those with a high school education or less to believe that religion can answer today's problems, by a margin of 51% to 68%. And those with a high school education or less are more likely than their postgraduate counterparts to say that religion is "important" or "very important" in their lives (65% to 53%). All this would seem to confirm that highly educated individuals put less emphasis on the role of religion than less educated individuals do.

Hopefully in the future people will be educated enough to make religion disappear.  
You refuse to educate yourself on the evidence and you have no scientific rebuttal to the same.
The brightest researchers recognized the truth about materialism and GOD. Science is not based on popular vote but on relating one phenomena to another. The brightest minds in science recognized that there was evidence for a higher power and that materialism is not a rational philosophy. Their claims are all based in evidence but you will not even consider their ideas, what good is science if you are expecting an outcome and refuse outside information?
You have not recognized any truth from my posts, not because I am lying about the evidence, but because your beliefs will not allow you to open your eyes to even a single truth. Prove me wrong!

Not the brightest just some scientists. I never denied that but statistics show that scientists do believe far less in god than the general population.
4135  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 27, 2017, 10:04:31 AM
Scientist usually dont believe in god because they have explanations on things that occured. They like to explain it using scientific terms. But some of them connected the bible and their smart guess creating that GOD really exists.
Many great scientists did believe that GOD was a sound explanation, see for yourself:
https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers

He said usually. The survey shows that scientists are roughly half as likely as the general public to believe in God or a higher power. According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. By contrast, 95% of Americans believe in some form of deity or higher power, according to a survey of the general public conducted by the Pew Research Center in July 2006. Specifically, more than eight-in-ten Americans (83%) say they believe in God and 12% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. Finally, the poll of scientists finds that four-in-ten scientists (41%) say they do not believe in God or a higher power, while the poll of the public finds that only 4% of Americans share this view.

So obviously scientists do believe less in god than the general population and so does people who are highly educated. According to Gallup's 2002 Index of Leading Religious Indicators*, 88% of those with postgraduate degrees believe in God or a universal spirit, compared to 97% of those with a high school education or less. More dramatically, postgraduate degree holders are less likely than those with a high school education or less to believe that religion can answer today's problems, by a margin of 51% to 68%. And those with a high school education or less are more likely than their postgraduate counterparts to say that religion is "important" or "very important" in their lives (65% to 53%). All this would seem to confirm that highly educated individuals put less emphasis on the role of religion than less educated individuals do.

Hopefully in the future people will be educated enough to make religion disappear. 
4136  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: July 26, 2017, 10:20:05 PM
It's pointless to argue with people that believe in supernatural and gods.
4137  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 26, 2017, 10:19:29 PM
Scientist usually dont believe in god because they have explanations on things that occured. They like to explain it using scientific terms. But some of them connected the bible and their smart guess creating that GOD really exists.

Scientists have known forever that basic science law proves that God exists. Many scientists understand this. The others simply don't want to look at it. The scientific proof for God is written here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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What caused god, what made god. How does cause and effect prove that god did it, why not aliens, why not something else, why a sentient being. You do not know, you are assuming it's god because you are religious. Scientists thankfully are not brainwashed and they will continue to be useful unlike your god or religion. Stay ignorant.

You are brainwashed. Evolution scientists have done it to you. I have answered your questions several times. The fact is that you simply don't want the answers. You are tossing out science for your evolution religion.

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No you haven't, you just simply call anything god for some reason.
4138  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: July 26, 2017, 08:27:55 PM
Scientist usually dont believe in god because they have explanations on things that occured. They like to explain it using scientific terms. But some of them connected the bible and their smart guess creating that GOD really exists.

Scientists have known forever that basic science law proves that God exists. Many scientists understand this. The others simply don't want to look at it. The scientific proof for God is written here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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What caused god, what made god. How does cause and effect prove that god did it, why not aliens, why not something else, why a sentient being. You do not know, you are assuming it's god because you are religious. Scientists thankfully are not brainwashed and they will continue to be useful unlike your god or religion. Stay ignorant.
4139  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: July 26, 2017, 08:25:36 PM
And dna is made by who ?  Roll Eyes it just poped there with science which is unable to understand it ?  Roll Eyes

If you know about chemistry, you know plastic is "organic chemistry". ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_synthesis ).

It's made with petroleum.

It's just some biological waste put together in a baking thing.

It's only partially man made.

Without this biologic waste in petroleum, we dont know how to do plastic from scratch.

And the molecules involved with plastic is still very simple compared to dna, or most proteines.

And it require minimum 200 different proteines to come up with the most simple bacteria.

There 200 times more chance for a fridge to build itself up from petroleum than a bacteria.

Did you ever see a fridge building itself up from your car's oil tank ? Me neither.

But of course it's perfectly sane and scientific to think something 200 times more complex could build itself up like this.

And dna is made by who ..By the EARTH and you program it..

Imagine the earth makes a living computer chip BUT the living thing needs to program it..

So the earth made DNA for you to program your children ..
But just like a blockchain  you have to fill it with programs

But the blockchain as an operation already programmed in it before you add more..

Just like living things are programmed to eat and produce the rest of the programming needs to be done by you to pass on to your children..And that's DNA a living human program ..

Who is the programmer the EARTH..1 big living ORGANISM  Grin..

So now you know this RECYCLE YOUR PLASTIC DUDE Wink..

If DNA is made by the earth, then the earth is smarter than scientists. Why? Because scientists can't make DNA, even though they might be close.

So, why do you keep on talking? You aren't even close. The scientists who barely know a tiny bit of what is going on, can't quite really make DNA. You know nothing.

Get lost. Oh wait. You are lost already. Get "loster."

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You have no idea what you are talking about. The earth is not sentient therefore it can't be smarter than anything.
4140  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: July 26, 2017, 10:52:54 AM
Evolution is a fraud, that's true, because the higher the science of human education is not the better and the other way around, with high science, human beings create things that make us kill each other, from evolution alone create many people who are only selfish.
You contradict yourself. Evolution is not a hoax. If people are poor and are constantly creating new ways of killing it is also an example of evolution. Only that the evolution of human thought and weapons. Therefore, it is foolish to deny evolution can be challenged only some of her theories.

Evolution as you are explaining it is simply a string of changes. The word "evolution" might be a great word to explain this, but it mixes people up with the evolution that is impossible.

The evolution that is impossible is the string of changes that it takes to go from inanimate material, to life, to life as we know it today... without divine intervention.

The marvelous thing about what God has done is, God has given us (people) reasoning ability so that we can "evolve" things, like the string of changes that take us through philosophy, or the string of changes whereby we can make greater and more powerful weapons.

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The problem is that evolution is not the theory of how life came into existence so your whole argument is just wrong. I already told you this a few times but you ignore it, as usual.

Well, of course that isn't all that there is in evolution. Bit abiogenesis is part of evolution. At least there are many evolutionists that say so. Perhaps you should write a book that corrects them, hey? I mean, evolution is your science fiction religion that you got hoaxed into. You might as well make your religion up how you like it, right.

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Since you like definitions: Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.[1][2] Evolutionary processes give rise to biodiversity at every level of biological organisation, including the levels of species, individual organisms, and molecules.

The evolution that is impossible is the string of changes that it takes to go from inanimate material, to life, to life as we know it today (prove it)

The evolution that you talk about is part of evolution theory. There is evolution within evolution theory, and there is evolution outside of evolution theory. They are different kinds of evolution.

Evolution outside of evolution theory is simply change with a fancier word.

Evolution within evolution theory is science fiction, because it doesn't exist outside of evolution theory.

The most simple, easy way to show that evolution inside evolution theory doesn't work outside of it, is to look at cause and effect. Natural selection doesn't exist in reality. Cause and effect dictates everything, and it operates according to the physics of the universe. In addition, this is common knowledge with all scientists, including evolution scientists.

The only selection that occurred was the selection that God made when He set cause and effect in place, and started it moving.

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How do you know it was god
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