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Actually, scientific study of the Bible, how it was written, its source, and the nation of Ancient Israel, show that it is some of the most solid science around. I don't know in what world you live. Of course you don't. You show us that you don't really know much of anything. You don't really need to start telling us the obvious. There is scientific fact and there is scientific interpretation. For example. A scientist digs a bone out of the ground. He can see the bone. He analyzes a chip off the bone and finds that it is truly bone material. The size of the bone is readily evident before his eyes. These things are scientific fact. Then the scientist guesses as to the class in history that the bone comes from. He says it is Neanderthal. He thinks this from the location of the dig. He compares it to other Neanderthal bones. He determines how much it has weathered to find that the age fits the age of the Neanderthals. So, he guesses and says it is a Neanderthal bone. The fact is that the age of the earth is just guesses. So, he can't know for sure the age of the bone? And most of his other interpretations are based on a bunch of interpretations of other scientists regarding many things that they don't really know to be the fact. Consensus among scientists does not make fact. Israel is a strong nation. The people of that nation are stubborn that their tradition should be kept. They have been keeping the traditions that Moses gave them back at the time of the Exodus about 3500 years ago. Would they lie about their writings? They practice them. They live them. Since these people are strong enough to stubbornly continue their practice of recording tradition for 3500 years, what makes you think that their traditions are in any way false? Now if this were the only thing in favor of Bible truth, it still would be very strong. But the question is why Israel keeps the traditions going. The answer is Moses. Moses told them to do it. And Moses was strong enough way back then, that he influences them today through his Bible writings. Does the strength that Moses shows us come about from lies? Moses was the adopted son/grandson of a Pharaoh. He had access to records of the world that have long since perished. And he wrote some of those records down in the Bible. The fact that his strength exists today after 3500 years in the people of Israel, shows that he wrote truth... because lies fall apart very easily, and would never have lasted a fraction of that time. Isaiah wrote something like 450 B.C. We have copies of his Bible writing from the Dead Sea Scrolls - from as far back as 400 B.C. - that are essentially the same as we have today. These copies have been accurately copied over a period greater than 2,000 years. This is strength. All we have from science is a bunch of "measurements," and then a bunch of wild interpretations in their attempt to bring the measurements into congruity. What we have from the Bible is solid history - eye witness accounts from a people too stubborn to lie. If that weren't enough, analysis of the info in the Bible is not only historically accurate, but is psychologically accurate. Coincube has been showing us information upon information in the Health and Religion thread, that shows us how important accurate, truthful religion is to health. And here is Israel, the most long-lasting nation in the world, and you would downplay their religion, the strongest religion in the world that has given them the greatest health of any? Now, don't get me wrong. The fact that you don't even know what world you live in, isn't something that makes you less of a person. Lots of people don't understand much about life and truth. The thing that shows how bad off you are is that you would rather fight the truth than start to learn it. Is there any hope for you at all? God saw hope for you. He wants you in Heaven with Him. That is why you are so curious about all this that you would question it. You instinctively know that there is strength in God and the Bible. You simply never heard anybody explain it like this to you before. Isn't it about time that you accept the Bible truths you are learning, and get rid of all those scientific assumptions that don't have any strength at all? Scientists are stubborn and smart, because of that they do their best to not fail. They use different methods to prove the age of the earth and the universe, what makes you think their methods are false? ''All we have from science is a bunch of "measurements," And all we have from the bible are a bunch of words written by a bunch of ignorant people that somehow convinced simple minded people like you. They would probably laugh if they saw how many people believe in their stupid story LOL Scientists might be acting in reasonable faith when they use their methods to determine the age of the earth, but they are not acting in complete good faith. For example. Nobody knows the amounts of C-14 in the atmosphere in the distant past. More or less every scientist knows from the records of many religions and nations that there was a world flood in the distant past. When you examine the record of the flood in the Bible, there is the indirect suggestion that there might have been no C-14 in the atmosphere before flood times. What does this mean? It means that any honest scientist should make the statement that, although he is using carbon dating, that there isn't really any idea from it as to the age of the earth beyond, say, 4,500 years or so ago. But few of the scientists say this. Many of the scientists lead people to believe that they are close to right-on with their carbon dating techniques. This kind of idea is inherent inherent in all dating methods that go back beyond 4,500 years, or so. It is all based on guestimations. There is no scientifically factual information around that shows how old the earth is. all of it is based on assumptions that things in nature have always been acting in the past like they do now. Yet nobody knows this to be true. The closest to the truth that we have is the Bible record, which shows eye witness reports that are written down in language that shows exactly what happened.
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July 29, 2017, 10:56:15 AM |
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Evolution is a continuous process, it's not a hoax.
The evolving of the inanimate to life, and to human life as we know it, is a complete hoax.
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IadixDev
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July 29, 2017, 03:17:35 PM |
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Scientists are stubborn and smart, because of that they do their best to not fail. They use different methods to prove the age of the earth and the universe, what makes you think their methods are false? ''All we have from science is a bunch of "measurements," And all we have from the bible are a bunch of words written by a bunch of ignorant people that somehow convinced simple minded people like you. They would probably laugh if they saw how many people believe in their stupid story LOL
The bible was not written by ignorants, it's based on scholarship wisdom of the time like from platonism, philo of alexandria, and many others .. It doesnt even deny evolution .. no more than the Vedas. . They even actually got the good order of how things got created ..
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July 29, 2017, 05:11:55 PM |
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I believe in evolution.. its science
Science study it but it's a natural phenomenon.
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July 29, 2017, 05:23:15 PM |
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This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass.
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July 29, 2017, 06:02:18 PM |
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Yes it is, humans missed this one.
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BADecker
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July 29, 2017, 06:05:13 PM |
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This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass. There are only two reason why people believe in evolution. The first is that they are evolution scientists and WANT to believe it. In the face of all the proof that evolution is a hoax, they bypass the proof, and play their evolution game. The second are all the people who believe the words of the scientists that say evolution is real. These people might know a little about evolution. What they know looks good. So they believe, based on the words of evolution scientists, even though they (the people) know nothing themselves, but would believe anything if it is said over and over enough times.
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July 29, 2017, 06:08:19 PM |
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This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass. Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof. Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about. Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands.
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July 29, 2017, 06:10:58 PM |
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My motivation is flawless, but im in no rush either lol i prefer to take time, do my study properly, having the wide scope. If there is money there is money if not I manage lol With all this greed and ego around it become suffocating. No more science, no more religion, no more innovation , just greed and ego, and economic crisis lol Only how I see shelby running his health & stuff for his reputation & stuff and what this whole she Bang of blockchain is becoming lol kinda sign of the times lol The engine is kaput https://youtu.be/vXy30glnKE8How did you get on here without MONEY?.. To study properly without MONEY?.. I mean it cost me £37 a month for broadband .. And that's so i can see my UNCLE GOOGLE .. OH great he is lets me do BETS and buy crypto with my winnings and also i point out that your WRONG and a man like being couldn't of possibly made this EARTH in 6 days.. ALSO do you call BUDDHISM a religion ..It's NOT a RELIGION.. To be one with everything cannot be a RELIGION .. Religion my way or burn forever.. Buddhism be one with everything is not my way or burn in hell.. Dalai Lama angrily replies to peaceful nun - YouTube Video for Buddhism arguing with nun▶ 0:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEEZvVUvKg22 Feb 2014 - Uploaded by Dorje Shugden The EARTH MADE HUMANS ..And that means we evolved on this planet .. So now ask yourself this HOW DID WE EVOLVE on this planet = EVOLUTION SCIENCE.. And you should be thankful because all the sciences that come from EVOLUTION SCIENCE as help your life and everybody else life .. Now remember to RECYCLE YOUR PLASTIC.. The earth is not happy with us at the moment .. It knows we are killing EVERYTHING it worked so hard to produce on it's BODY.. It can always get rid of us so easy by floods drought and earthquakes .. So instead of trying to please an INVISIBLE sky daddy we as humans need to be pleasing the one true god the EARTH.. Recycle and keep earth clean from the bad things we produce .. We have brains and with SCIENCE we can invent stuff to help the EARTH help US.. We die the EARTH will live on.. Remember i am RIGHT your wrong .. No no no your throwing new sciences in the BIN.. The EARTH IS ALIVE and we live on it's body.. So have a nice day ..MONEY MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND.. Universal income for all..
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July 29, 2017, 06:11:08 PM |
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There is no axioms for the evolution, no metrics, no algebra, it's barely a science at all.
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July 29, 2017, 06:36:23 PM |
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ALSO do you call BUDDHISM a religion ..It's NOT a RELIGION.. To be one with everything cannot be a RELIGION .. Religion my way or burn forever.. Buddhism be one with everything is not my way or burn in hell.. Dalai Lama angrily replies to peaceful nun - YouTube Video for Buddhism arguing with nun▶ 0:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEEZvVUvKg22 Feb 2014 - Uploaded by Dorje Shugden The basics of veda is very close to kaballah The three big religions based on god & angels ( Judaism christianism Islam) is based on kaballah the same that budhism is built from veda. Vatican & England crown is another story. .
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July 29, 2017, 08:19:54 PM |
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This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass. Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof. Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about.Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands. Yet you strongly believe in the bible. Did you see god creating the universe?
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July 29, 2017, 08:33:26 PM |
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ALSO do you call BUDDHISM a religion ..It's NOT a RELIGION.. To be one with everything cannot be a RELIGION .. Religion my way or burn forever.. Buddhism be one with everything is not my way or burn in hell.. Dalai Lama angrily replies to peaceful nun - YouTube Video for Buddhism arguing with nun▶ 0:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEEZvVUvKg22 Feb 2014 - Uploaded by Dorje Shugden The basics of veda is very close to kaballah The three big religions based on god & angels ( Judaism christianism Islam) is based on kaballah the same that budhism is built from veda. Vatican & England crown is another story. . If you remember how the Vatican and the Holy Inquisition coped with people who had unusual thinking for that period, Yes today It's no wonder that different proposals and different versions of our life cause huge discussions.
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July 29, 2017, 09:12:29 PM |
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ALSO do you call BUDDHISM a religion ..It's NOT a RELIGION.. To be one with everything cannot be a RELIGION .. Religion my way or burn forever.. Buddhism be one with everything is not my way or burn in hell.. Dalai Lama angrily replies to peaceful nun - YouTube Video for Buddhism arguing with nun▶ 0:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEEZvVUvKg22 Feb 2014 - Uploaded by Dorje Shugden The basics of veda is very close to kaballah The three big religions based on god & angels ( Judaism christianism Islam) is based on kaballah the same that budhism is built from veda. Vatican & England crown is another story. . If you remember how the Vatican and the Holy Inquisition coped with people who had unusual thinking for that period, Yes today It's no wonder that different proposals and different versions of our life cause huge discussions. But with SCIENCE we know we EVOLVED from this planet .. No ZAP and everything was so..
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July 29, 2017, 09:30:03 PM |
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ALSO do you call BUDDHISM a religion ..It's NOT a RELIGION.. To be one with everything cannot be a RELIGION .. Religion my way or burn forever.. Buddhism be one with everything is not my way or burn in hell.. Dalai Lama angrily replies to peaceful nun - YouTube Video for Buddhism arguing with nun▶ 0:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEEZvVUvKg22 Feb 2014 - Uploaded by Dorje Shugden The basics of veda is very close to kaballah The three big religions based on god & angels ( Judaism christianism Islam) is based on kaballah the same that budhism is built from veda. Vatican & England crown is another story. . All made up STORIES to control the masses and to donate to the preachers .. You been getting conned for money and control for many thousands of years.. Now with science we have evolution to prove how we come to be ..
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July 29, 2017, 09:34:13 PM |
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This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass. Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof. Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about. Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands. Evolution as more proof than your GODS .. Your proof that evolution exists WHY because just listen to yourself .ZAP and everything was so . I blame your parents for making you believe in fairy tales .. So i suppose it's not your fault your BAT SHIT CRAZY about your zappy dee zap GODS..
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July 29, 2017, 09:35:19 PM Last edit: July 29, 2017, 09:47:58 PM by IadixDev |
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Science can be told to be as much con as religion Your preaching science and know nothing of it, just because you saw it somewhere . That's how conning works. But im not conned by your madness Not more than by preacher of any sort. Science doesnt prove much evolution no more than you prove anything. You dont even know what proof is lol Typing in caps being drunk insulting people is not really a proof of anything outside of your own madness and authority complex . I blame your parents for yelling too much at you to show their authority.
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July 29, 2017, 11:07:52 PM |
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This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass. Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof. Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about. Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands. Evolution as more proof than your GODS .. Your proof that evolution exists WHY because just listen to yourself .ZAP and everything was so . I blame your parents for making you believe in fairy tales .. So i suppose it's not your fault your BAT SHIT CRAZY about your zappy dee zap GODS.. Again, all the evidences that suggest evolution, can suggest other things, as well. Because of this, there is no proof for evolution. Then when we add all the reasons why evolution is impossible, we find that evolution is a big, fat hoax.
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Astargath
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July 30, 2017, 12:05:32 AM |
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This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass. Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof. Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about. Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands. Evolution as more proof than your GODS .. Your proof that evolution exists WHY because just listen to yourself .ZAP and everything was so . I blame your parents for making you believe in fairy tales .. So i suppose it's not your fault your BAT SHIT CRAZY about your zappy dee zap GODS.. Again, all the evidences that suggest evolution, can suggest other things, as well. Because of this, there is no proof for evolution. Then when we add all the reasons why evolution is impossible, we find that evolution is a big, fat hoax. What does that even mean
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July 30, 2017, 05:05:35 AM |
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This is a fallacy. Just because we do not know exactly how evolution works does not mean you can disprove the whole learn. Micro-evolution has already been 100% proven. If bugs for example are all the same species and some are red while some green. The green ones will survive better because they blend in with the grass (where these bugs happen to live) and thus Red bugs get eaten at a far higher % rate. In 10 generations, only green ones are left becasue red sticks out like a sore thumb in grass. Evolution has never been proven. Everything that can be explained as evolution, can also be explained as something else. Therefore, no proof. Even if evolution were literally proven to exist, we still would need a time viewer to see if evolution was the way things came about.Evolution is a big fat hoax, at least as it presently stands. Yet you strongly believe in the bible. Did you see god creating the universe? Science is about observing, faith is about believing.
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