I have about 10k that I mined myself (still mining although obviously the rate has slowed down) plus the donation fund isn't really mine but I have control over it. (Using one of those fit-pc boxes in fact!)

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My miner wallet: balance: 10581.133293944494

donation wallet: balance: 456601.491197739266

They don't overheat as miners as long as air is able to flow freely around them (don't throw clothes on top of one). They're hard to beat in terms of hash/W but very expensive as hash/$.

Sure, that's fair. One or both of you please propose an amount on the main thread. I don't think it should be a lot as this isn't something we really need (certainly not a high priority for the project) but as an expression of gratitude there is no reason not to distribute some coins.

Thank you for the donation. I'll PM the instructions from our registrar.

What has made conversation on your thread impossible is largely that people from your community (including I think you but I'm not sure) respond to on-topic criticism of Dash not with on-topic support of Dash, but by discussing personalities (including purported doxing), criticizing other coins, conspiracy theories of "paid trolls", etc. all of which is off-topic and explicitly against the forum rules to be discussed there.

That isn't even a judgement call -- off topic posts on a thread are not allowed -- while your claim of "professional" trolls is made with no evidence whatsoever, and somehow the culture of the Dash thread has come to define negative posts, even if entirely substantive and on-topic as to Dash, as "trolling". That is incorrect and you can't expect the moderators to take a position on one side of the debate over the merits of any particular coin.

Moderators can, and do (because I see many of the posts get deleted) go through page after page of the Dash thread and see that in many cases the vast majority of the posts do not discuss Dash at all, either positively or negatively. (Most of those are from supporters of Dash, but I don't really expect moderators to keep track of who is a supporter and who is not.) That is clearly out of line.

tldr police your own.

EDIT: I don't disagree that some individual posts may veer into trolling and those can be legitimately reported as Spoetnik said. That's true for virtually every single thread on this forum. If you think there isn't a lot of trolling everywhere on this forum you need to look around a bit. But many of that poster's posts are just on-topic criticism and it is inappropriate for any coin to expect forum mods censor that (even if it weren't accurate, since accuracy,  opinions, and accusations of scamming are explicitly NOT moderated). Example:

Well I agree with you that your approach is close enough to his in terms of subject matter that it should be cited as prior related work at least. As to relative advantages and disadvantages of the techniques you will have to hash that out among yourselves, or just state your opinion, he'll state his and let readers (and ultimately the market, assuming either or both is ever implemented) decide.

Then there will be something to back up your claims, and basis for credit to be given. Currently there is not.

I'm not really following it but look, to get credit you have to publish stuff, or release products or something. If you do your work in secret and don't release things, that has its own benefits, but credit is not one of them.

I did acknowledge on that thread the stuff that you came up with last year about combinatorial unmixing, but beyond that everything you have claimed to do is unreleased. If you get scooped, that goes with the territory.

It is not something they would do lightly until the database support is merged because of the resource requirements. If the coin gains in value enough and becomes actively traded enough, they would likely do it anyway, but for small coin they probably won't commit the resources to a memory-based wallet.

The same exact thing can be said for Monero, and in that case the transactions/chain will be smaller, as explained in section 2.5 of the white paper.

We were discussing chain size. The only difference (in Dash's favor) comes from differences in usage, not differences in technology.

I only own a small amount at the moment, so I wouldn't represent my holdings a serious investment position.

Asking about good points is a fair question, though. In no particular order:

Releases tend to, you know, get released. The last major release was a significant upgrade and seemed to have relatively few roll out problems. That speaks to the ability of the team to deliver.

It has low inflation, so in a weak market (one driven more by supply considerations than consistent demand) on might expect less price weakness from dumping of new supply than otherwise. I'm not sure about this though, as one can look to something like Nxt which has zero inflation and has still performed terribly, and Dash hasn't retained value all that well either. Nxt lacks Dash's structural incentive to hold though so that may make a difference (you can stake, but the rewards are negligible).

The InstantX system, while flawed, is like most "zero conf" systems in that is sufficient for casual transitions, and is deployed. If there were actually a lot of routine commerce going on with Dash that would be very nice. There isn't, but the feature being there means one obstacle has been removed.

Likewise Darksend is also not perfect, but again for a degree of casual privacy it exists and mostly works. This could until recently be viewed as a clear improvement on Bitcoin, although JoinMarket has come on the scene and is probably about as good as Darksend (which is to say both are flawed, but the flaws are different), so I'm not sure this is true any more. Darksend is still a bit more mature, as JoinMarket hasn't been integrated into any wallets yet, though I do expect that to happen.

In general, I don't like the idea of investing in what is basically a one-man asset, but as leaders go, Evan seems to do a good job and I would rate his day-to-day leadership as apparently favorable (I don't see everything "behind the scenes" of course so I can't say absolutely this is true). I think Dash would do well to develop a broader team of visible people with both leadership and technical skills though.

The idea of (large) coin holders voting to allocate a budget is worth experimenting with.

It has a high market cap ranking which has its own value in terms of visibility.

As a hedge it may be mathematically worth owning some even if you don't think it will succeed (though you do need to believe there is at least some change it will appreciate in value, which I do). There aren't really any other vehicles with directly comparable properties.

Losing or in the case of something like greenaddress having it tied up for an extended period until you can retrieve it (you can't really lose coins with that system). Also with a true offchain system there some dimension of reduced privacy (though also an increase along a different dimension, since your transactions are not broadcast to the world). So you may not want your entire financial life exposed to any one such system operator.

Both issues apply to Lightning Network as well. Lightning is sort of an automated way to find an intermediary to handle offchain payments for you.

PM me here or on freenode

I endorse his work and support renewing him for another term.

I think the idea was not necessarily for micro transactions but to transition to more of a Yen-type model where ordinary transactions that people already do are for (relatively) large numbers of bits rather than small fractions of Bitcoins, the latter being seen as less user-friendly. Also, by making a satoshi 1/100 of a bit, accounting software that supports two decimal places becomes more compatible. It seems to have mostly gone inactive as BTC value dropped.

I endorse his work and support renewing him for another term.

It is suitable for investors who have a reasonable expectation of some sort of detailed specification and full disclosure about what it is they are buying (prospectus). Putting it on a another page is perhaps okay if unconventional. It still raises questions about why it is being hidden. No need to answer, you've already explained your perspective of why, but it still raises the question.

Believe what you like. I'm looking around and I see lots of conferences organized around Bitcoin, a billion dollars or perhaps more by now of venture capital investment in Bitcoin companies, many exchanges, direct fiat gateways, wallet services such as coinbase signing up 2+ million KYC verified users, many major businesses accepting it, etc.

I see none of this for any alt. At best they are a small side note at conferences, traded on exchanges that also trade bitcoin (but the reverse is not true), have one or two significant business investments (or none), etc.

It isn't a question of degree at all, it is a whole different world. And don't forget Bitcoin is tiny also compared to fiat finance.

Well I told you, I'm having a conversation.


You mean "the origin of dash" or whatever that post is called, that presents everything in a benign, almost joking way, without even the slightest possibility of malfeasance? No, I don't think such a link, buried among 20 links there are already there helps much (but it does raise the question, again, of why even that isn't included among the numerous links that are there).

What's wrong with just putting the original specification and name at launch back like every other legitimate coin? That is factual, let people draw there own conclusions. If changes to the key specifications are made they should be added to the OP with an explanation of when those changes were made, not erased.

Uh, no. Actually it is 1/341 of Bitcoin, much less than 1%.

In my opinion it is about one millionth of Bitcoin's maturity and development in terms of actual usage, businesses being built around it, onramps for investors, hardware support, etc.

That's not really intended as an insult to Dash, I don't think any other altcoins with the possible exception of LTC (for overall support) and ETH (for businesses being built around it) are any different; most are worse.

These coins are extreme high risk bets where many, many obstacles will need to be overcome.