Regarding listing on poloniex, I don't agree that it can't happen before database, RAM and resources is not a problem for polo since they became a major altcoin exchange and their fees can easily cover such tiny expenses. Human resources is much more expensive and currently they are wasting many human hours to manage all the shitcoins with 0 or close to 0 volume that does not belong there, legacy of their past. It's time consuming job to handle all the forks, problems in these daemons.
I never said it can't happen. I said " I'm pretty sure what will happen is they will either relist it because its value and volume grows enough to make it compelling, or they will wait for a database version so the cost of supporting it isn't so high. For an exchange that runs dozens of wallets, needing several gigabytes of RAM for one coin is a big expense." You could certainly add support costs for another wallet to that expense. If they really wanted to do it of course they can do it. I think main reason that AEON still not listed back there is that you, yes, you didn't asked them to re-enable it back. So everyone who has spare minute can go and submit a form on their website to show some love to AEON and poloniex and explain why it's better than probably next coin in their internal queue.
More visible customer demand could help, but please be polite about it and don't make it look like we are trying to flood them with requests. |
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Is there a budget system here? and Is there a way to know where these coins are going too like which project? (talking about the donations and MoneroDice 10% funds)
Most of the funding (crowdfunding/donations) is now via the Forum Funding System, where you can see which projects were funded under Work In Progress and Completed Tasks (in the Archive section). New proposals are in Funding Required. All of those are here: https://forum.getmonero.orgThe direct donations to the project were used for some freelance developers, crypto review, etc. last year along with ongoing things like hosting, legal, etc. That had some accounting posted a while back, where the amount donated ended up being well short of the amount actually spent, with the remainder covered by the core team itself. Since the development is now primarily funded by the FFS above, direct donations have tapered off but donations for covering project overhead are still welcome. The MoneroDice 10% funds don't exist yet as at least two people have explained, but if and when they do exist they will probably go through the FFS. That's up to fluffypony though. |
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How many coins exist currently and how many coins flood the market each day.
I would further know how often the supply is halfed and when.
chainradar has the statistics: http://chainradar.com/aeon/blockscurrently: 9'706'768.103213900000 most recent block: 33.340489620152 daily: about 12k (target block time is 4 minutes) There is no halving, instead reward declines slightly with every block. By half over every period of about 18 months. It is about half its original rate now. |
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Updated with one withdraw, a much-appreciated tip, and additional staking.
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It can be faked if supply is tightly controlled. There is no risk to putting whatever offers up on the book you want, particularly below the best bid, if you know that it won't be dumped into your bids.
That's the point tho - the bids *are* the demand. Coin supply is the supply, so when demand meets supply you get your market cap estimate. You can't place fake bids to raise the value of this estimate. Let me explain why you are wrong with an intentionally-extreme example. Let's say I own all of the supply of SmoothShitCoin. I can place bids for millions of SSCs at 1000 BTC/SSC because I know that no one owns any, so they can't possibly sell into it. You, as a third party observer, can look at the order book and see billions of BTC of market cap for SSC. It is obviously fake. To make this look even more convincing, I can sell some SSCs to myself, so you see not only a large buy-side, but an active ticker. Subject of course to the caveat already mentioned about non-trivial transaction fees payable to an unrelated party. Even that may be a small and acceptable cost to maintain the fiction though. Less extreme examples are possible of course. |
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I have never used whonix but began researching it more after reading that comment and it sounds great for privacy. https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Main_Page"Whonix consists of two parts: One solely runs Tor and acts as a gateway, which we call Whonix-Gateway. The other, which we call Whonix-Workstation, is on a completely isolated network. Only connections through Tor are possible. With Whonix, you can use applications and run servers anonymously over the internet. DNS leaks are impossible, and not even malware with root privileges can find out the user's real IP." Are there any potential negatives for using this approach? Is "DNS leaks are impossible" truly accurate? I think the DNS leaks being impossible is likely accurate if I understand correctly how Whonix works. I don't think it is possible for the VM to communicate at all except through Tor. As for downsides of Tor, without good end-to-end methods, Tor connections are susceptible to MITM attacks via hostile exit nodes. It is also possible to get all of the exit nodes banned from a p2p network in which case Tor users wouldn't be able to connect at all. Support can be added for hidden services as it was recently in Bitcoin, which would solve that somewhat, but has other issues. Establishing Tor sessions can be quite slow, although once established, the performance is very good (I measured around 0.15 seconds added latency receiving Monero blocks over Tor, and that includes some extra time since the local connection on that system is slow). Opinions differ as to the security of the Tor network overall. |
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This thread is so much cyclical you can read whichever page you want to get the full scope of this discussion.
Pretty much true of all of Spoetnik's posts ever. |
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SDC was a great coin... Where is the former glory and the success of traders? We need zerocoin-protocol integrated in the SDC.
SDC is a great coin... SDC has gained market cap wise with the growth in BTC. ref coinmarketcap obv. SDC doesn't need anything make believe because it has ring signatures and non-interactive zero knowledge proofs significantly imroved from the initial implementation referenced in the whitepaper. I would recommend checking out their active git or slack since you seem to be new. significantly improved? prove it. shame you didn't get that peer review or produce a white paper demonstrating this :| NIZKP are part of CN btw He's right, the current implementation produces signatures 1/2 the size of Cryptonote for large rings, using the LLW method also derived by Adam Back here. I'd consider that a significant, though not earth-shattering improvement. There was no such improvement last year when I first pointed out that it was a pure Cryptonote rip off. I don't know if the white paper has been updated, since I haven't looked at it recently. |
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Where are you getting that 70k number from? If you are summing up the donations of the community hall of fame, these are not only donations to the core team. For example, ArticMine donated 12k XMR to fund MoneroMooo. Also, the link you posted are donations in mBTC, as far as I can see fluffypony received 1,000 mBTC = 1 BTC and the same goes for davidlatapie (he is still on "awaiting decision" as well).
He has a point. Yes, much of it was donations via the forum funding system for MoneroMooo and others, but that still counts as part of the overall progress that has been made in a year. In fact MoneroMooo's work is a huge portion of it (no disrespect intended of the great work by others). So if you want to consider money spent vs. progress achieved, the 70K XMR total (assuming correct, I haven't checked) is fair, bearing in mind that total is cumulative back to the very beginning, not just since the last release. |
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Smooth QC (brewery) secondary offering results| Name | Shares | Bid | Amount due | | kronicblazer | 25 | 1005000 | 20625000 PAID | | smooth | 200 | 1000000 | 165000000 PAID | | goin2mars | 100 | 900000 | 82500000 PAID | | noms | 300 | 880000 | 247500000 PAID | | Zechariah | 50 | 875000 | 41250000 PAID | | kronicblazer | 25 | 853000 | 20625000 PAID | | Cryptonic | 27 | 852000 | 22275000 PAID | | Crichton | 100 | 851000 | 82500000 PAID | | Soul | 100 | 850000 | 82500000 PAID | | Syksy | 50 | 830000 | 41250000 PAID | | Cryptonic | 14 | 827000 | 11550000 PAID | | SIF | 125 | 826000 | 103125000 PAID | | Mooo | 30 | 825001 | 24750000 PAID | | MoneroHouse | 67 (of 150) | 825000 | 55275000 PAID |
Still waiting for payment from kronicblazer, Zechariah, and Soul.
1. GIVE M amount smoothQC
2. PM me with your character nameAll Paid! Thanks everyone! |
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Hey, So now Monero price is going up because of the long anticipated 0.09 release which took the developers over a year but I still don't get what is in their release? Also checked MoneroDice and like onemorexmr told me it's run by FluffyPony which is a main developer here and he takes 10% of all the Monero there I am guessing to fund the project BUT what about Othe he is a developer yet he won 21835.834259214586 Monero isn't this a bit fishy? I got these info form this forum page " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720940 ". + the donation that Monero get's from it's community is "at least to me"is huge around 70,000 Monero's ! isn't this enough to motivate developers to work faster than a release per year? https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/hall-of-fame Please get that I am not here to put down Monero I am here to make sure my investment is in the right place  1. Either you can browse the commit logs from github (both master and development branches) or you can wait for the release announcement. 2. The operator of MoneroDice, fluffypony gets 10% of the winnings on the site, not 10% of "all the Monero there". That's a pretty standard operator fee for dice sites as far as I know. So far it hasn't added up to much. 3. I assume othe winning was fair, but it doesn't really matter if you are considering playing on the site because it is provably fair. You will always get a fair game guaranteed by math if you play. (Investing on the site is riskier; if you don't trust the operator, don't invest.) 4. The "one release a year" includes a massive amount of effort significantly reworking and refining nearly every major portion of the core code. The time it has taken is a function of the scope of the work done. Here is a comparison of the work done since the previous release. 780 commits changing 585 files with work from 8 developers. We do expect more frequent releases going forward. 5. 70K Moneros is about 35K USD currently. A little while back it was half that. If you think that pays for 8 developers working full time for a year (not counting work before the previous release, nor other project overhead), you are living in a fantasy world. Obviously the work is part time and volunteer. If you want it to go faster and have relevant skills you can volunteer, or help fund more development. Thank you for you're kind reply, 1. I didn't understand it so I hoped for a like a page showing me what's going on like a road map. 4. More releases more investors! 5. Still I would be super motivated as a developer 70k can be one day $10 each? P.S maybe developers get a more appropriate way of finding projects beside that gambling site it makes it look bad to me. Your feedback is appreciated. To clarify, the gambling site has provided no funding at all for development so far, and it isn't even directly associated with the project. It is a business that one of the developers happens to operate (personally) which has promised to donate profits to development if it ever makes any. For now it is irrelevant. |
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Are you suggesting that exchanges enforce that trades are Sybil-free? Doesn't this rely on KYC? But how do you know that multiple KYC identities are not colluding to Sybil trade?
Indeed trades are not sybil free, which is why I'm suggesting you use a 'corrected market cap' (as I described) as your estimate of the value of any existing coin. The buy sides of the orderbooks cannot be faked or distorted in this context; the top row is the best price, the bottom rows are the worst, so if you imagine filling the coin supply against the orderbook, you end up with a number in BTC which is the demand for the coin. Do that across all exchanges to give you a far better estimate than last traded price * coin supply (which is what CMC gives you). It can be faked if supply is tightly controlled. There is no risk to putting whatever offers up on the book you want, particularly below the best bid, if you know that it won't be dumped into your bids. This makes values of mined coins somewhat more trustworthy than unmined (or lightly mined) PoS-type coins, because it is easier to control supply in the latter. |
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Hey, So now Monero price is going up because of the long anticipated 0.09 release which took the developers over a year but I still don't get what is in their release? Also checked MoneroDice and like onemorexmr told me it's run by FluffyPony which is a main developer here and he takes 10% of all the Monero there I am guessing to fund the project BUT what about Othe he is a developer yet he won 21835.834259214586 Monero isn't this a bit fishy? I got these info form this forum page " https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720940 ". + the donation that Monero get's from it's community is "at least to me"is huge around 70,000 Monero's ! isn't this enough to motivate developers to work faster than a release per year? https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/hall-of-fame Please get that I am not here to put down Monero I am here to make sure my investment is in the right place 1. Either you can browse the commit logs from github (both master and development branches) or you can wait for the release announcement. 2. The operator of MoneroDice, fluffypony gets 10% of the winnings on the site, not 10% of "all the Monero there". That's a pretty standard operator fee for dice sites as far as I know. So far it hasn't added up to much. 3. I assume othe winning was fair, but it doesn't really matter if you are considering playing on the site because it is provably fair. You will always get a fair game guaranteed by math if you play. (Investing on the site is riskier; if you don't trust the operator, don't invest.) 4. The "one release a year" includes a massive amount of effort significantly reworking and refining nearly every major portion of the core code. The time it has taken is a function of the scope of the work done. Here is a comparison of the work done since the previous release. 780 commits changing 585 files with work from 8 developers. We do expect more frequent releases going forward. 5. 70K Moneros is about 35K USD currently. A little while back it was half that. If you think that pays for 8 developers working full time for a year (not counting work before the previous release, nor other project overhead), you are living in a fantasy world. Obviously the work is part time and volunteer. If you want it to go faster and have relevant skills you can volunteer, or help fund more development. |
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All-time-low network difficulty: 491180295 Mega-botnet got disconnected, herders trying to pump before the mega-dump Ride it but beware.. Not really all time low but it is a low for quite a while. Good time to mine. All time low my friend, it was this low 2-3 months after launch almost 2 years ago.. And before that? |
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All-time-low network difficulty: 491180295 Mega-botnet got disconnected, herders trying to pump before the mega-dump Ride it but beware.. Not really all time low but it is a low for quite a while. Good time to mine. |
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Spoetnik, I haven't been following GetGems closely. Could you please educate me on the claim that the adoption is fake? I need solid arguments and if possible irrefutable evidence of such claims. I don't have free time to go digging searching for forums posts which have detailed such allegations. Can you summarize and point me to relevant posts?
I don't know what is fake or not fake but I do know you need to take mobile download figures with a grain of salt, even in the absence of deliberate manipulation (this being crypto, assume the worst and you'll only be a little surprised at the level of sleaze). Many free downloads are deleted or just ignored. In some cases updates count toward the download counters and if the user has automatic app updates enabled, all their unused apps will get updated too. So N downloads generally means the number of actual users is much, much less than N. YMMV. |
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Based on the distribution chart on Bittrex someone holds 400k aeon there. Reading this thread makes me think it may be you. Why not move it to an offline paper wallet? I highly doubt Roger Ver would hold even 1% of that in an exchange long term.
Yes, I don't plan on keeping it there. I wanted it to stand there for a month as a statement of support for Aeon, but I will be moving it to a variety of sources. I'm not sure how it is a statement of support. When I see that I tend to think that the coin is tightly held and not distributed very well. I'd prefer lots of small holders and a wide interest and distribution Every coin has its whales whether they split up their coins into multiple wallets or otherwise disguise the site of their holdings or not. At least AP is being completely transparent about it, and stating that he's going to be spreading it around sponsoring relevant projects like Roger Ver does with BTC. I guess we'll see how it all works out. |
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At one time, did this display show the combined votes, IE such that the top part did equal 100% of the votes? Maybe I'm dreaming...
I'm not sure but I think the original display only showed the unique combinations so that would indeed sum to 100% (if including abstain). Now it is broken down by each individual petition, which obviously doesn't sum to 100%. |
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Well you could take that analogy to mean that. But essentially you are saying that you are not interested in CLAM changing in any way, so if anyone wants to change anything about the coin they need to leave? I get that you have an opinion. But a lot of us really like CLAM and want it to get better. Why start from scratch when you have something amazing already with just some imperfections?
I don't consider the digging an imperfection. It is at the very core of what the coin is about. It's all over the branding. It is rediscovered by new community members every time the price goes up. It is the main thing that makes this coin different from many other pure PoS coins. Furthermore I don't see blacklisting the undug clams as particularly different from any other blacklisting. They are literally just outputs on the blockchain that happen to be in blocks 0-10000. I get this argument, and I'm sure there are many on the side of "stopping digging" that are supporting it purely out of self-interest. However, there are others of us who see it as a way to strengthen CLAM and remove the uncertainty that will haunt this coin forever until changed. Funny thing is, some of us think that much, much greater "uncertainty" will haunt the coin forever if it is changed, because it will be clear that such changes are acceptable to the community and no one can ever know what other changes will be popular in the future. Unless you buy in as a massive whale who can vote to protect your own interests, you will need to just stay away. So yes, if you want something that is effectively "WhaleCoin", then do this. I don't think that can work, but I may be wrong. It certainly can work if the idea is to never grow beyond JD. The CLAM = WhaleCoin = JD casino chips model probably works as long as JD's whales are trusted to redeem the chips at some reasonable value. |
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Why not choose a different coin then?
There is a whole market out there of coins. If you don't like this coin, pick (or create) a different one!
I fail to see why this coin needs to be turned into something it is not in order to avoid being disliked by someone.
That's the same kind of attitude as "If you don't like this country, you can get out!" Why does someone need to leave if they want to make things better? There is not easy mobility between countries, nor can you create new countries easily, so the analogy is false. You can change your ownership of a coin with the click of a mouse, or fork a repo with a different click. |
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