I am just amazed that you guys are talking techno gibberish in a thread about Dash vs. Monero. You make a very strong case for Dash by doing that.
Users don't want to have to know what libboost or zram is. Of course this is interesting to you geeks, but it is not at all interesting to the masses. If I even mention one or two words like that, my gf starts to yawn and get sleepy. Lol.
I am just wondering if you guys are clueless or don't care or more likely you just acting like geeks sharing good vibes by talking techshop. I understand that, but I also understand marketing.
As you've pointed out there isn't a whole lot of useful marketing that can really take place on this forum.
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sudo apt-get install git gcc-4.9 cmake libunbound2 libevent-2.0-5 libgtest-dev libboost1.55-dev gives me Package libboost1.55-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
What version of boost you use isn't that important as long as it is not 1.54, which had a bug. At one time (maybe still) 1.54 was the default version in some popular Linux distros so the install instructions specify 1.55. Anything newer is okay too. That should be updated in the README.
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transfer <mixin> <Deposit Address> <amount> <mixin> is optional, and you will get a reasonable default, so you can just transfer <address> <amount> Seems difficult huh?
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Good news!
Our friends over at Monero (moneromooo in particular) have figured out how to use Tor with Cryptonote coins using the torsocks wrapper, so you can enjoy using AEON with Tor-protected anonymity at the network level.
1. Make sure you are running a Tor demon. With Ubuntu Linux you can just apt-get install tor and you'll be all set
2. torsocks aeond --p2p-bind-ip 127.0.0.1 --hide-my-port
In the case of Monero there are some issues with DNS being blocked and required some code changes, but AEON does not use DNS, so we don't have to worry about that issue at all.
There is one message (harmless) that gets reported during IGD (UPnP) setup, but that can be ignored. I added a --no-igd option in github, so you can use that to get rid of the message if you build from the latest source, but it isn't really necessary.
Depending on the version of torsocks you have installed, you may get some messages about missing symbols. Those can also be ignored.
There is probably a way to do something similar on Windows, but I don't know it. Anyone?
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Does ShadowCoin have Proof-of-Stake governance?
No, other than the implicit ability of stakeholders to soft fork or maybe hard fork. It doesn't have a voting or budget system like Dash. Actually now that I think about it, the ability of stakeholders to hard fork in PoS is pretty clear. That's another way the consensus of PoS is absolutely weaker than PoW.
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FinCEN guidance doesn't not apply to the Howey test. FinCEN is not tasked with protecting unsophisticated investors from fraud. FinCEN's job is to fight money laundering.
Somewhat true but remember "money laundering" is expansive and includes transmission of money that is the proceeds of fraud or to facilitate fraud. As such Fincen's scope reaches anti-fraud and consumer protection, often in cooperation with other agencies.
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I just computed the average value for June 2014 and it's ~7.9 million (rounding), so my initial guess was right.
Just to clarify I am using the peak since June 2014 not an average in my calculations. That's punishing coins that had a spurt of interest or some glitch in the price for whatever reason. Was certainly very common in 2014 though. If it happens enough times to enough coins you can't really consider it a glitch.
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Still some XMR outstanding that are used for short position. I am quite confident of this because these mini-orders (< 0.0001 BTC) that appear on the trading logs / bitcoinwisdom are margin settlements. That is, the polo engine buys XMR for you (if you don't have any available) to pay your interest.
I also noticed those mini-orders. Seems self-defeating to let the polo engine drive up with market buys the price of the thing you bet will go down. The orders are really tiny and would take a long time to even take out one ask order. Other than creating a slightly misleading tape (for people who merely look at last tick direction without paying attention to the volume) it doesn't really drive up the market.
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Updated. One full month now, staking return has been 3.27%.
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2. Bitshares is off topic on this thread. PoS isn't entirely off topic since Dash's masternodes are a form of PoS (even more so in evolution since masternodes/stake will verify transactions).
That is why I included BitShares in the same table, since we concluded recently in my thread that Dash is really proof-of-stake. And BitShares and ShadowCoin are other coins attempting to add on chain protocol level anonymity. Someone else brought up ShadowCoin, so I figured I would preempt someone bringing up BitShares and not having it already in the table. To be fair you replied to a table that included SDC. That is also off topic on this thread. No reason to go even more off topic though.
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Your claim that attacking a PoS coin is a "fixed cost" and attacking a PoW coin is an "unbounded cost" is similarly ridiculous considering the costs of attacking both types are dynamic (PoS depending on the price of the coin and PoW depending on the hash power of the coin.)
It is absolutely correct. Once you control a PoS coin, you control it forever at no additional (significant) cost. How can anyone else ever take control away from you since you control staking and the only way anyone else can get stake is by buying it from you? No one can and you don't need to continue expending resources (mining) to retain control as you do with PoW. Wrong. If someone buys up 50%+ of the currency supply to attack it, the PoS coin's community thanks them for the donation, forks the coin, rolls back the blockchain, and continues business as usual. In that case, the system doesn't work at all, because it doesn't enforce consensus. You might as well have "the community" record everyone's holdings on a spreadsheet. Also, attacking via 50% doesn't necessarily require "buying up" anything. It could be (at least in part) having hacked an exchange or other large holder, or having accumulated stake through borrowing. The same with PoW (compromising a large pool for example), except that it isn't permanent.
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Nice attempt to try and gloss over the reality of this coin, now lets bring out the elephant...Just-Dice wallets make this decision Maybe, but dooglas has said that he won't use his position as admin of JD to impose control over the network. He has implemented a system for JD investors to decide on their own share of clamour blocks and presumably would do so for fork voting as well.
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.... AnonyMint pumping his vaporware as usual ...
"Proof-of-Stake Politics (non-decentralized governance)" - I guess you haven't been following Bitcoin lately? There are just as much politics involved with PoW as soon as a cryptocurrency is large enough. Google "Bitcoin block size limit controversy". Bitshares R&D is average yet Monero (LOL) is above average and your vaporware is above average. Monero releases one whitepaper and all the sudden they are above average R&D... give me a break lol. You obviously have no idea how much R&D in many different decentralized technologies Bitshares 1. Monero has released many more than one "white paper". There is one formal research paper (ringCT) but at least 4 other MRL reports and some other documents. 2. Bitshares is off topic on this thread. PoS isn't entirely off topic since Dash's masternodes are a form of PoS (even more so in evolution since masternodes/stake will verify transactions). Your claim that attacking a PoS coin is a "fixed cost" and attacking a PoW coin is an "unbounded cost" is similarly ridiculous considering the costs of attacking both types are dynamic (PoS depending on the price of the coin and PoW depending on the hash power of the coin.)
It is absolutely correct. Once you control a PoS coin, you control it forever at no additional (significant) cost. How can anyone else ever take control away from you since you control staking and the only way anyone else can get stake is by buying it from you? No one can and you don't need to continue expending resources (mining) to retain control as you do with PoW.
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One shouldn't trust (previous) scammers:
Agreed 100%. Unfortunately, I don't have the technical know-how to judge the rest. Thus, we need to get developer-eyes on it! Why? Zerocoin (note this is zeroCOIN not zeroCASH) was developed years ago and well-discussed by experts (and generally rejected as a poor approach) already on this forum and elsewhere. Just because some pump-and-dumpers recycle their zerovert scam into a new ICO coin they are trying to hype, why would developers care about that?
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Actually by this measure Monero has done very well. If we compare peak market cap since June 2014 to current market cap.
Monero -20%
Ethereum -47% Litecoin -49% Dodgecoin -53% Namecoin -68% Dash -70%
What we a measuring here is the overall fall in alt-coin prices as the price of Bitcoin was falling from its 2013 peak.
Certainly very interesting. It has been a tough crypto market the last few years but Monero has held up nicely.
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Aeoncurrency ( https://twitter.com/aeoncurrency) is not the official account, Aeoncoin is ( https://twitter.com/AeonCoin). I am not sure why someone (perhaps a community member) started a second, similiar looking, account. Doesn't do any good in my opinion. Why not just use a nickname instead of an official looking name? Yes as I said earlier some community member did that. I use community member broadly since I have no idea who it is nor their intentions. EDIT: earlier comment was on reddit. To clarify here, @aeoncoin is the official twitter. @aeoncurrency is "someone" independent (I don't know who)
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It is a down trend if you look at the peak at April, 2015 and August 2015. Down trend for nearly a year now. https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmrBlock 30m Expand the chart to the beginning Yes, $6 to $0.50 is quite a downtrend I suppose. Guess my timeline's a bit shorter than yours for now Those very early prices were pretty meaningless. The float was tiny and the volatility massive. The highest prices were achieved during the "mintpal pump" which was based on the rather (or, rather, very) questionable premise that trading on that now-defunct exchange would somehow make the coin worth more, when it was already trading on other at least two other major exchanges. (I can see the first or second exchange being worth something, but not the third). Now even putting that aside, there is a bit of a downtrend, though market cap has remained fairly steady (less than 20% below ATH in fact). The market has accepted all the new coins, but only at a lower price per coin. Maybe that isn't great but it is respectable.
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The plan now is to buy Dracula's castle
Castles are so 2014 Bitcoin. Maybe a space station would be fun.
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The paper is very outdated and this is why I should have written the code first, then the whitepaper second. I found all of these issues when I was actually writing the code, so it doesn't include any of them.
Did you lose the editable version of the white paper?
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At least, I agree [Bitcoin] is immense relative to Monero. It is tiny relative to the traditional fiat currency system.
Bitcoin is still tiny compared for example to the Somalian subset of the hawala network. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala#Horn_of_AfricaIgnore the traditional fiat nonsense; focus on System D. The fiat will burn itself out as the paper inevitably returns to its intrinsic value. Watch out informal remittance systems, we're gunning for ya! Good points. It is easy to forget how tiny this crypto economy really is, including Bitcoin.
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