If it does turn out to be illegal they will have your credit card on file.

The only thing that needs to be determined is whether or not Richard just created another account to do this, or if it's actually a real person.

Sorry no.

Thank you. Online and buying.

In the pictures I just provided you can cross reference the last four digits of each card number applied to the order to the card numbers that James sent me via PM on Bitcointalk.

Here's all the proof -

http://imgur.com/de5Q9sW
http://imgur.com/XA8zJJI
http://imgur.com/KKpjUpK

It would probably be possible if they called into customer service. The activity on the codes shows that they were used once and the order was cancelled, and the balances were not credited back. At this point it's just rail birds commenting on the situation that haven't fully read the thread or know the situation.

The order was cancelled, the cards you sold to me did not work and the order was cancelled. I can provide proof of all this, all you are saying is that you sent me Starbucks gift cards and you want the payment.

All the evidence points to the cards being used only once, as there's no other activity on them except that the cards were applied to the order and it being cancelled, and the reason it was cancelled remains unknown, but I think it's obvious. If you have any further proof or evidence you want to provide instead of just posting saying I'm lying go ahead.

I'm also open to someone team viewing my screen to verify all of this so to see that there's no confusion.

You stated in your thread that you don't send the codes first. I messaged you showing interest in them, completely different than saying "Hey send me $500 of codes and I will pay you within 12 hours of receiving them, and guess what? I'll even pay you if the gift cards are completely useless and have no value whatsoever!". Either way if you send me something and don't discuss the trade details you're basically agreeing to my terms unless they are ridiculous.

You're dishonest and continue to lie. Do you just ignore facts and continue to make up your own story? I told you to take the cards back and I told you that I'm not sending the payment until I use them and know they work. What part are you having trouble understanding? - http://imgur.com/cNXZB2w - If the order was cancelled and there's no other activity on the cards can you conclude what happened here?


You also seemed to show concern that I was using the gift cards online for some reason.


@Bitspill, that's my facebook pic atm.

It's implied as Quickseller mentioned earlier that when you purchase $500 worth of gift cards, it's implied that it will have $500 of value, but just for the record - http://imgur.com/cNXZB2w

You would transfer the balance because I asked you to take the codes back because you sent them to me without discussing any details and then kept demanding an instant payment.

Every PM you sent me:
http://imgur.com/UmFtHdN
http://imgur.com/l7sW7gY
http://imgur.com/RN0gmkh

Response:
http://imgur.com/zquVVp8
http://imgur.com/cNXZB2w
http://imgur.com/Fg9qT1h
http://imgur.com/3kdmOWY
http://imgur.com/gsVhvwK
http://imgur.com/2zzPz5a


As quickseller said, the order cancellation is automated and you receive an automated email upon cancellation. Starbucks doesn't have a wide variety of automated emails probably, and it fell into this one. It could be that when the cards were used and found out to be stolen they were cancelled and the balances erased, which would lead to an email like this.

It's pretty plain and simple what happened, and frankly I'm tired of repeating myself.

What happened:
1) I messaged James showing interest in $500 Starbucks Gift Cards
2) James sent me the codes without talking to me and refused to take them back and demanded payment in 12 hours
3) I agreed to take them if you're trading on my terms or gave him the option of taking them back, which he could of easily done and just transferred the balance to a different card if he was so worried
4) I use the cards, they didn't work. They turn out to be stolen. End of story.

I dont know why, the order was just cancelled and I received that message. Probably because they're stolen gift cards.

I doubt a reputable member would be treated any differently. Sending a product that doesn't work to someone and demanding a payment for it is scamming. Also I don't think any reputable member would just send off something, demand immediate payment, refuse to take it back (starbucks has an app where you can just transfer the balance to another card), especially after repeatedly asking him to . Poor decision on my part to continue with the trade and the seller has a bad attitude and is dishonest which made it worse. Its hard to deal with someone with this kind of approach while trying to provide good customer service, reputable member or not. 

The cards being used have nothing to do with it. There's a reason the order got cancelled in the first place.

Yes if it's the physical card.

You either planned the entire time to say the item you received wasn't as described or the seller sent you a fake item. As you already stated there's no debate whether or not you received the item, and it should be pretty obvious if it was from the seller as their information would of been on the package. The only question is whether or not you or lying about receiving the correct item or not. It obviously wasn't a smart idea for Poksak to send first without using Escrow to a member with no reputation. Why would you pay $400 when you could just say you didn't get the item? You have nothing to lose, but if you are scamming he now has your personal information. Which IMO is worth a lot more than $400, either way if you aren't compromising with Poksak good luck having your personal info posted all around the internet for everyone to see Via Google.

Can someone provide a link to the seller's Amazon page? There's no reason to believe you received a fake item if the seller's profile is all positive feedback.

Where the hell would you get that assumption from? Spam.

@rockminer I was just using it as an example as sometimes in order for the order to go through it can take up to that long. I've never held a payment for that long as I use the codes immediately and is usually the day or day after unless something like this happens.

@quickseller exactly, there's not any reason to send a payment for something that's invalid. basically like selling a car for $1000 and not saying there's anything wrong with it and it breaks down the next day because it's a piece of junk with broken parts.

This is just a sad attempt of trying to lie to twist the story to try to get money. I can provide all the proof for this trade, however I don't think its really necessary to waste the time as its already pretty clear what this low life is trying to do.

First of all, you never told me you created this thread. Secondly, you sent me the codes without confirming any information, I told you about four times to take them back and then once you see that I had used them, you message me and say you won't take them back. I told you over and over again that you're trading on my terms if you're going to send something to me without discussing the details. I've been buying gift cards for awhile and I'm not about to be flagged for using illegal gift cards and the order was cancelled and the funds should be back on the card if they were obtained legally, which looking at how you've acted I highly doubt. There's not really much else to say, you're just a scammer looking to make a quick buck and that gets mad when he can't.

Edit 2/1: Here's all the proof:

http://imgur.com/de5Q9sW
http://imgur.com/XA8zJJI
http://imgur.com/KKpjUpK

Be careful of all the new accounts showing up selling cheap starbucks gift cards. Most of them are alts of other accounts and other members not wanting to get negative trust. It's no secret that 99% of these are fraudulent, be sure to verify with Starbucks before sending money to users selling these cards.