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421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Power Slap League on: January 28, 2023, 09:32:34 PM
Can't handle myself as well watching those slap matches, I don't know how they handle such strong slap right after the match, for me its very inhumane. Well, if they have the consent to do that probably its ok for them but to other viewers, that's too much. Anyway, I see there's a huge number of followers already on social media so probably many are already interested with the Slap league, hopefully they are being treated well here to avoid any serious problem.
They could have such a powerful slap just by practicing hard every day. I couldn't bear to watch the match because I imagined that if I got slapped, I would immediately pass out and not wake up for several days. I don't know if the game has a lot of fans or if it still needs promotion to get the viewer's attention. Those who compete will get good treatment because they have given the best for the viewers.

The power isn't everything. It's important to be accurate and land on the chin to move the opponent's head to the side. It bounces your brain inside your skull and makes you pass out. That's why many of them have beards to hide the jawline. They also try to tuck the chin as much as they can or even turn their heads a bit to make the opponent hit higher and more into the back of the head, towards the ear.

Slap Leagues can be hilarious at times. You can see good highlights on youtube. There's even one where Arnold was the host.
422  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Invest in Bitcoin now so you don't have to regret it later. on: January 28, 2023, 09:21:33 PM
You knew about bitcoin since 2014, went through 2 bull and 3 bear markets and never cared to come to the biggest bitcoin forum on the planet? Better late than never! Cheesy

I usually don't tell people to buy now or regret, I'd rather make them consider all the pros and cons of owning a bitcoin. Once you think about it for a while you'll come to a conclusion that there's a lot of pros, so many you  could make a list, but only 1 significant con (not being able to turn your coins back into fiat without a loss if after you've bought btc enters the bear market).
423  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Main reason government won't fully accept bitcoin on: January 25, 2023, 10:19:41 PM
The reason government won't accept bitcoin is not because it is a decentralized currency,  it is because they won't be able to print it like they print fiat  to steal as much as they can .

Also they don't want decentralization.

Centralization equals power and decentralization equals effort put into giving power to the people while the governments have worked for centuries to take power from the people. Accepting bitcoin as a means of payment is OK to them as long as the main currency remains fiat money. Leaving fiat money for bitcoin is impossible for them because it would mean giving both power ant the economy into the hands of someone else, this anonymous Satoshi, or anonymous whale who according to them controls bitcoin.
424  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happens next if Bitcoin drops to zero? on: January 25, 2023, 06:20:44 PM
1. Will Bitcoin ever fall to zero someday?
2. What happens if it ever falls to zero?

0 what? Even if it falls to 0 dollars it will not be 0 rupees or yens.

It can fall to 0 in a given currency if that currency undergoes a reset. A Turkish lira isn't doing so well. If it disappears then bitcoin will be worth 0 in Turkish money.

What happens? Nothing. In 2009 when Bitcoin was invented there was no spot markets so bitcoin was worth 0 but it doesn't mean it was worth 0. People could trade it so it was worth money to them but there was no ticker to tell you about their transactions.
425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: QUESTION: For Gambling Enthusiasts ❗❗ on: January 25, 2023, 05:46:08 PM
I didn't expect that more people would choose B. I choose A . I don't really like direct interaction. I prefer to place bets in a relaxed state while enjoying a ball game or other sports. But, when I experience a bit of boredom that peaks, I sometimes play PVP Online. Rummy and Poker are the most fun for me. although in the end I often experience defeat and feel annoyed. but it does get a bit more fun. although I rarely play it. But surely you also feel it. when we start playing PVP it's a bit difficult for us to stop. sometimes i forget my time. but in the end it depends on my feeling situation.

B option looks like more fun, that is if it's made to work well and be safe. We're not talking about a game that's in development and you have to choose between a casino with a good working roulette and a pvp game that can suck, because it's not done yet. The way I see my choice is between a working, safe, tested game with no bogs vs another one that's the same just more traditional. In that case I'd choose the pvp option and it looks like this is the winning choice at the moment.

That said, I'm yet to see a good, working game with real pvp matches like people play on world cyber games just with a betting option.
426  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The one thing I still don't get about crypto and Tax on: January 25, 2023, 05:33:42 PM
Why the hell are they using the word " its unregulated " as an excuse but still take money from people?

 Grin next time a politician comes asking you to vote for him, as him exactly this.
You will most probably get a non-answer consisting in 1000-words of utter bullshit, but it should be fun.


My answer is: because politics is one, reality is another and all governments need money, no matter what.

This is a good way of showing people that life is unfair.

The government will ask you to pay for healthcare but when you get cancer they will charge you saying they don't have enough money. Then why didn't you ask me for more money when you were charging me for the last 20 years?

The government will nor recognize bitcoin but demand money for profits you get from it. It used to be like this in 2013 and 2013 that most countries didn't even see bitcoin as property and the police would ignore you if you said it got stolen from you but they'd want a share of profits.

The government will always try to make running a business harder for you and make you do all this unnecessary paperwork but then if you make money they'll want some of it.
427  Other / Off-topic / Re: White Card entered in Football !!! on: January 25, 2023, 05:10:27 PM
I can already hear the black Americans saying "so they've introduced a "racist" card to award something good and there's no black card." I bet that when they add it it's going to be a penalty. White -good -black - bad!

White card should be the surrender card. You show the white card to the team that sucks and should give up because the match is a waste of time Cheesy


They should add "LGBT colored" card in football. Show player this card, and he would never behave bad on the field. This will act like a warning card, that shows what punished player should expect to get in a locker room if he did not stop fouling or playing aggressively towards other team members. I am convinced that such card will have a quick effect.

I'd prefer an RGB coloured card. LGBT is not really a color scheme Tongue
428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UK fines online casino for only asking KYC from winning gamblers on: January 25, 2023, 04:54:22 PM
For KYC casinos, it would be good if people that are signing up should do KYC before they can deposit.

It is a very good idea but it would be good for punters to always read casino ToS before they register and they should provide necessary documents for KYC, they should do KYC before they deposit.

Many gambling sites are doing this to cheat their customers, it is common everywhere.

This also isn't a good thing as there should be limits to how much you can play with no KYC. It's literally stupid to ask KYC from people who come to test the site with $50 when you can do all financial operations with no KYC up to a much higher limit.

The minimums of $100 USD for deposits and withdrawals should be completely fine for any banks, governments or casinos. Nobody is going to launder such small amount and making people compromise their ID just to spend a few dollars makes no sense.
429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tom Brady's Gambling and HUGE loss. on: January 25, 2023, 04:39:44 PM
I feel like his choice of investing in FTX was influenced by big money that Fried gave him. When a celebrity advertises something you can be sure there was large money at play just like with Kevin O'leary,
They got a lot of money, saw that SBF was loaded and this clouded their judgement. They were victims of a scam rather than gamblers.


not sure if this is going to be in the gambling forum.

yes, he bet on FTX and lose. and right after FTX becomes a scam, his wife and Brady broke up. pretty sure, it's the reason why. money definitely affects relationships. he could be unstable for now, any team that would take him might just think twice.


If we agree that his investment choices were indeed gambling then the topic should be here, if we don't and say these were more of a career and wealth choices, it should be in off-topic or maybe politics and society. It's like those threads asking if investing in bitcoin is gambling. It can be considered a gambling discussion or not, depending on how you see it.
430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your take on this crypto gambling use case idea? on: January 24, 2023, 07:26:43 PM
Certain use cases brings value to the token or coin of a casino project, that's left for the team to figure out, if the gambling token has a new utility that others don't have this can move up the adoption of such token, I am not against using a gambling token for placing a bet on the website but make sure it's worth gamblers time.

The reason why gambling and casino platforms accept the different types of cryptocurrencies is because of their users, some will still prefer bitcoin while some will want to use Dogecoin or Litecoin. It's not bad to accept other crypto coins.

It's not bad to accept coins that aren't considered scam. Accepting everything without sifting out the bad ones will lead to casinos exposing themselves and their clients to scams like luna and failures like FTT. Would you like casinos to accept shitcoins like that or scam coins like hex?
I'm fine with casino accepting a number of cryptocurrencies, but I wouldn't trust them if they were experimenting with ponzi coins. The more doesn't always mean the better.
431  Economy / Economics / Re: Is renting an inevitable waste of money? on: January 24, 2023, 07:13:57 PM
My main concerns are the following: First, if you're in a long-term relationship like myself, you can never be 100% sure that you'll be with that person in 20 or 30 years from now, which might prevent you from opting for a loan. Secondly, you need to be certain that the location or city of the property to be bought is convenient for future job offers and so on. Thirdly, because a loan is a many-year commitment, there's no guarantee that you'll be able to afford the monthly payment 15 years from now.

Problems of the first world citizens. "I don't know if I should buy a house here because I'm not sure if I want to live here in 10 years" while in poor countries people save up to get central heating so they can stop with chopping wood once and for all.

I had 2 friends who rented out and they kept doing it until they got married. Once they did they took a loan and bought apartments because they both said that the installments were almost the same as the monthly rent but at least they live in their own place and will have something to leave their children when the time comes.
432  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I have gotten used to using bitcoin for payment but. .. on: January 24, 2023, 05:06:08 PM
Here's one of the lists for you, OP. There's many to choose from if you want direct payments.
https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin/who-accepts/

I don't mind buying a gift card though.

If you're in the EU, you can also deposit Bitcoin to Bitpanda and sell it for euros, and request the withdrawal in Amazon.de vouchers. It's not exactly the same as buying a gift card, but it is a way to feed your Amazon spending habit with crypto =) Also a tad cheaper than bank withdrawal (despite the not-so-good exchange rate).

You have outdated information. This option was dropped many months ago. I don't remember exactly but it was somewhere before 2022 for sure.
It looks like you haven't been using this exchange for at least a year.
433  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Doxxed team can help a new gambling platform? on: January 24, 2023, 04:33:14 PM
All owners and partners do KYC, just not to you or any of their clients. They do it to the government agencies that register the business and give it a license to operate.
As far as I know you need to do KYC when you need the license for the casino. So with the licensed casino at least you know that you can file a complain against them to the license provider. It's up to the license provider how they judge the merit of the competence. Most of the time they don't care about hearing clients because the casino is important for them not the clients. After all the the casino is giving them the money they need.

They also need to register with their full name and address for tax purposes, even if they avoid the license. Some people run a gambling operation without a license, posing as something else, like a raffle company that doesn't need a license, or a software company. Alameda was a trading company registered as a blockchain research company.

Anyway, even without a license you have to be registered for tax compliance. You can avoid government agencies like the ones that oversee gambling or trading but you can't avoid the tax man. Once you have income they will require you to give some information about the business you're running.

The way fraudulent operators avoid it is by using homeless people to register the business. These people have nothing so they have nothing to lose.
434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Too accessible of online casino grows addiction faster? on: January 24, 2023, 04:09:40 PM
It's a similar situation as it was with porn. You make something addictive more accessible it starts to influence a larger group of people and increase the total number of addicts.

Once porn was available only on VHS and you had to borrow or buy a tape to watch it. Now when everybody owns a phone and can access porn everywhere, even at work, the number of people addicted to it will increase. It's a real problem especially in the US.

Easy access to gambling may influence the lives of many people who never thought they could be influenced by this.
435  Economy / Speculation / Re: Genesis bankruptcy cause BTC to surge due to buying to fulfill loan? on: January 23, 2023, 08:22:03 PM
It doesn't look like they were pumping it but rather that the market was leveraged and filled with short sellers. When that happens big money will always try to squeeze them. It's an opportunity to make easy money if you have enough money to make it happen.

So the srorts got squeezed and the street that sold in November when FTX went bankrupt got the signal that this is the bottom so they bought. From 17 to 19 thousand it was the squeeze and then the rest is natural accumulation. When enough people go long from here the big money will try the squeeze again to get us back to 20 but the signs of the reversal are undeniable, even if we go back to 20.
436  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will crypto banks replace traditional banks on: January 23, 2023, 08:05:21 PM
Regular people have no incentive to switch to crypto banks and crypto in general. They don't care about fiat's inflation that much. And they don't care about privacy. And control over own funds. And let's not forget that even if crypto banks started getting traction, governments and traditional banks would either resist this trend or hijack it.

That's true, as long as those regular people are doing fine, living in their bubble.

Canadians who went on to protest against lockdowns and covid restrictions also thought about themselves as regular people and then they started to get scammed from all sides. Even gofundme stole their money which shows that centralized companies are corrupt and the government can do what it wants with them.

I agree that people don't need crypto banks. They need crypto-friendly banks. bitcoin isn't here to replace fiat but to replace custodial services and introduce some transparency.
437  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cheat the Lottery Winner on: January 23, 2023, 07:43:24 PM
I try to understand this case. also, to read the article the Op linked. in this case, it is clear on the site, Iris Amador Argueta has pleaded guilty before a judge to capitalist theft in the second degree. instead, Argueta is expected to be sentenced to 16-48 months in prison. also, returning almost more than half of the money that should have been obtained by the victim. So, this case has been resolved even though it didn't return completely.

She also lost much more by accepting the lump sum. She did not care how much it would be in installments because she wanted to close the deal ASAP and run with the money which costed the real winner at least a 100 thousand more.

These criminals are so dumb. Things like that don't go away. Sooner or later the cousin would see that they bought a new house or something and start being suspicious or someone would tell her that there was a big win and she said she won something at that time. You never steal from people close to you not only because it's savage but also because you're going to be seeing these people for many years and looking at them knowing you stole from them.
438  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to know total money been invested in bitcoin on: January 23, 2023, 07:26:23 PM
1. How we can determine total invested money in bitcoin

We can't. The centralized exchanges have a pretty good picture because they see how much fiat money was deposited and withdrawn. They are not sharing this information.

They are sharing volume though and there's blockchain data with transfers to known exchange wallets. There are chain analytics that focus on this and you can find all of it if you do a bit of googling.

Whether those are whales or not is difficult to tell because if I wanted to buy 1000 bitcoin and I did it all on binance that has a known wallet and makes their volume public people would know but I don't have to do it.

I can buy everything OTC or I can buy some of it OTC, or keep buying 100 coins each month, every time on a different exchange and every time into a different wallet. You wouldn't even know.
439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Doxxed team can help a new gambling platform? on: January 23, 2023, 07:08:43 PM
All owners and partners do KYC, just not to you or any of their clients. They do it to the government agencies that register the business and give it a license to operate.

If you treat casinos like any other businesses, there's no rule that the ownership, staff, etc., must be public IMO.

In some countries it is a rule. Not all staff has to do KYC, but in the EU, the owner of the business has to register in a public ledger that requires their full name, date of birth, name and location of the business and assigned identification number. You can't have a business without providing this information.

What OP would like to se is all the personal information made public and to be honest if you run a big operation it's almost impossible to hide. You can google the names of owners of the biggest casinos like Stake. It's a problem with smaller, newer casinos, but if that's important to you just use the ones you're comfortable with.
440  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Trade vs. HODL - avoid traps on: January 22, 2023, 04:58:43 PM
I have tried bitcoin trading and failed, I learned technical analysis but again failed. Bitcoin just doesn't follow the technical analysis terms like the forex or it is me who is failed to give my 100% effort on learning and implementing those into bitcoin trading.

But after trying so many years, probably a good 4 years trying to trade bitcoin successfully (make profit day trading), I gave up 2 years ago. Now I can live my life peacefully and avoid day trading.

You did not fail. You chose the wrong path the way people choose a sport. You get told that snowboarding is great so you try that and after a few days of struggling you try skiing and find that it's easier and gives you more fun.

Trying is never a bad thing.
Trying and sticking with something you don't like doing and you're not getting better at is a bad thing and not trying is a real failure.

Bitcoin is too manipulated and people panic too much because they don't understand it, which is why it's so hard to predict its moves.
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