Markets change. Shark must keep swimming to eat.

I would guess that $50 000 would not be sufficient to develop hardware to support IOTA, but I could be wrong.

For paying that may be true (the earlier attempts at "per person" distribution were mostly free). But then that raises other legal, institutional, and logistical costs and obstacles, as you have previously reported with respect to your social media experiments.

The track record in trying to do that is pretty bad. Limit per buy-in just raises the stakes to create/recruit/impersonate more straw buyers. See Stellar and probably some others.

It is not at all clear there are "end users" for something like this for years to come. It will take a significant period of time to build a market with supporting devices, services, and a large enough population of users, all interacting with each other using the token as a tool to accomplish something else. So I doubt that anyone buying it now could be viewed as anything but a speculator (including long term investor).

That might be different for some other kind of token such as one backing assets in a game or even maybe decentralized storage. Something with actual ready-to-go uses. But that seems a bit off topic on this thread.

We know that mining can't be used here because CfB has stated that it undermines the security model.

If the idea is bootstrapping the distribution and not raising money, then spin off from an existing coin, preferably a widely used one. Multiple coins are even okay but make sure the weighting bears some sane relationship with fair market value (does not have to be exact).

If the idea is raising money while unambiguously complying with all the (perhaps mutually contradictory) laws in the world while at the same time using a structure that achieves a widespread distribution in practice, and is verifiably resistant to cheating, well good luck. I don't know how to do that either.

Probably not skewing the assumptions too much considering that satoshi wrote about botnets and said they make the network more secure.

He may have been more interested in security functions than price action though.
 

No most new AMD CPUs have it as well.

Just to correct this, I have no particular connection to funnyman21. I don't even remember ever communicating with him directly, but it is possible I did.

As far as buyers and sellers, well it is pretty obvious, and I don't know that it represents pumping. Everyone is pretty aware that there are more large buyers than sellers who are public about it, but the market price is still what it is (with buying and selling in rough balance), so that isn't even necessarily a bullish indicator. There could be more small sellers or more large sellers who don't want to be public.

EDIT: neither a connection with rangedriver. Fact is I'm not really "connected" with anyone on these forums. I mostly just live my own life, do what I do, and post on here (and occ on reddit, etc.)

Someone on the wall observer thread was talking about some MMM ponzi. I couldn't follow it and I have no idea what effect that might have. Does anyone think that has any merit?

Given the critical role BTC has in trading XMR it seems we ought to understand if there is some large (?) unsustainable factor driving current BTC prices, and how close that might be to reversing.

The reasons why iCEBREAKER might be angry toward Dash and his investing skills (horrible or otherwise) are both off topic. Try to obsess a bit less about iCEBREAKER.

The topic is "Is Dash a better alternative to Bitcoin?"

Answer: NO

As with the foolish rename, Evan's top-down, decided-in-secret closed-source approach to "Evolution" (the irony is impressive) is not welcomed by the market, and in destroying value, not adding it. Meanwhile Bitcoin continues to power ahead with innovation and its open-source, peer-reviewed approach and is being rewarded accordingly by the the market.

Hey bigrcanada, since "everyone knows" this and I don't, I feel a bit out of touch. Can you post your evidence so I can get caught up with with I missed. Thanks!

When iCEBREAKER invested in some coin other than Dash or Bitcoin is totally irrelevant to this thread, so yes, I'm going to trim that irrelevant context.

Back on topic though, what do you think that the market is telling us about Dash and Bitcoin, because Bitcoin seems to be doing a whole lot better according to investors?

What do you think about open source developments in the Bitcoin ecosystem, such as confidential transactions (with whitepaper), sidechains (with whitepaper), improved smart contracts (with BIP documents), lightning network (with whitepaper), etc.? Is Dash meeting and exceeding that quality and quantity of open source development, or is it falling behind and/or going in the wrong direction? Is the market getting this wrong?

I seem to remember toknormal and probably other Dash supporters saying quite a few times that growth in market cap was an indicator of the success of Dash. That cuts both ways does it not?

BTW, by "Doge 2.0" are you referring to Bitcoin because that makes no sense? Or are you going off topic?

Tread topic reminder: "Is Dash a better alternative to Bitcoin?"

Update:

DASH price May 2014: $13.50
DASH price today: $2.25 $2.14

BTC price May 2014: $500
BTC price today: $300 $302

What you call "the context" i.e. Monero, is off topic to this thread. Please try to stay on topic. iCEBREAKER seems capable of that (as far as I can tell every one of his posts here discussed Dash and Bitcoin). Are you?

Back on topic: Dash has lost nearly all of its value while Bitcoin is quickly recovering a large portion of the value it lost over a similar time period. Dash is NOT a better alternative to Bitcoin based on market performance, which is often cited by Dash proponents as a measure of its success.

Linux users can use rlwrap. I don't know if there is anything similar for Windows.

Something is definitely wrong there, but I don't know enough about mining on Windows to suggest what it might be.

Anyone?

To briefly bring this thread back on topic

DASH price May 2014: $13.50
DASH price today: $2.25

BTC price May 2014: $500
BTC price today: $300

To answer the question in the thread topic, Dash is not a better alternative to Bitcoin.