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4541  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Big Short movie, BTC edition? on: December 24, 2020, 01:51:21 AM
@exstasie. The questions will never be gone until Tether, iFinex shows the documents and the audits.

Not going to happen. Their general counsel came out and said as much a few years ago:

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“The bottom line is that an audit cannot be obtained,” Hoegner told CoinDesk, claiming that this problem is not unique to his company but one faced by the entire cryptocurrency industry.

He went on:

“The barriers to getting audited are simply too big to overcome right now, and not just for us.”

Those barriers include a steep learning curve for auditors in an emerging industry; accounting standards that predated the advent of cryptocurrency, creating uncertainty about how the rules apply; and the resulting need for auditors to exercise judgment, which is “anathema to a lot of large accounting firms. As a CPA, I understand that,” Hoegner said.

https://www.coindesk.com/tether-review-claims-crypto-asset-fully-backed-theres-catch

Also, this is the definition of FUD.

FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and a manifestation of the appeal to fear.

Source https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt

Yeah, that's the original definition. I explained how the term FUD is conventionally used today in the trading and cryptocurrency worlds, and provided a relevant source. Remember, you're on the Bitcointalk Speculation forum, and the year is 2020. Wink

Also, it wouldn't be unreasonable to say this type of speculation about Tether fits that original definition anyway. We're talking about disseminating negative information (whether it's dubious is debatable) and fearmongering.

How will the judge determine this case if they will never show documents and audits to remove th doubts behind the backing USDT? Do you assume the investigations will stop?

You are using the word FUD according to your own definition everytime someone asks questions? Are we not allowed to have the right to express our own doubts, ask questions and speculate without being called FUD? You agreed that Tether is shady.

In any case, another speculation for you. This statement from the SEC is very broad and might also cover Tether and many other tokens in the cryptospace.



Source https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2020/comp-pr2020-338.pdf
4542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XRP Price Dives After SEC Files Charges on: December 24, 2020, 01:02:09 AM
@cryptoaddictchie. Too many? Can you list them? I have not presently seen exchanges delist XRP, however, I speculate American exchanges might be talking to their lawyers for advice hehe. I predict Coinbase and Kraken to delist XRP before 2021.
4543  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XRP Price Dives After SEC Files Charges on: December 24, 2020, 12:25:10 AM
I am quite certain other cryptofunds and crypto asset managers have begun to dump their XRP also and I speculate that exchanges might begin to delist this. No one will be risking their licenses for allowing trades of an illegal security.

Also, the articles have mentioned that the SEC has sued Ripple. This appears that a judge will determine if XRP is an illegal security or not. The decision might become a legal precedent on many cases regarding if a cryptotoken is an illegal security or not. We should hope Ripple wins this case.



Crypto asset manager Bitwise has liquidated the XRP position of its crypto index fund.

Bitwise said the move took place in light of the U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission (SEC) has alleged that XRP is a security.

Bitwise said its crypto index fund "does not invest in assets that are reasonably likely to be deemed securities under federal or state securities laws."


Source https://www.theblockcrypto.com/linked/89018/bitwise-crypto-index-fund-xrp
4544  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: December 23, 2020, 03:46:23 AM

I am shocked the SEC charged them. I have speculated that the political connections of the people behind Ripple might help them avoid this. It also appears that other projects might be charged. Jed McCaleb funded Stellar by selling his XRP. He might be next.

4545  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon Musk on Bitcoin: "Bitcoin is almost as bs as fiat money" on: December 23, 2020, 03:18:15 AM
However, he is also one if the smartest people in the world. Bitcoin is similar to fiat has also been an unpopular argument in the cryptospace community but an argument not closed. According to the argument, bitcoin is similar to fiat, not similar to gold because it was created by man, it has a version no. and a group of men can decide to fork it to issue more coins or fork it to print more coins for themselves similar to Roger Ver.

The words "Bitcoin is almost as bs as fiat money" actually puts Bitcoin higher than fiat money, the key word here is "almost". It kinda trolls both Bitcoiners, because they get mad when someone says Bitcoin is like fiat, and Bitcoin haters, because it says that Bitcoin is better than fiat.

As for the argument, I think the biggest similarity between Bitcoin and fiat is that they both have no use except for being money, while things like gold have useful chemical and physical properties, but this in no way means that Bitcoin inherits some flaws of fiat money, because those flaws come from centralization.

I was only showing an old argument made before in the cryptospace. It also shows that Elon Musk ponders the questions that we should be exploring ourselves. However, much of us do not and care only what the larpers are telling us because it is easier, it also pumps bitcoin hehe.
4546  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-12-17] IRS is trapping bitcoin and altcoin investors on 2020 tax form on: December 23, 2020, 02:51:11 AM
Fortunately for me I have kept BTC from years ago (>5 years) "static" in every way.  I put them on very secure hardware wallet configurations. "IF" I would have conducted any coin activity this year it would have been on segregated wallets because, as has always been my policy, no overlap transactions with any existing wallet not even different addresses in an existing wallet are permitted.  This allows me to move coins on a single BTC address via the web without having to use mpk's for all to see.  i.e. there is no way to relate one transaction with another without a 3rd party being able to see a mpk.  Handling IP's and all other connection issues is child's play for me.  Hope that makes sense.

Back in the day this was much easier because there was no KYC or AML pervasively present.

Good for you. There are hundreds of small transactions in my main wallet and I guess if the tax authorities go after the Bitcoin users, then I probably need to move my coins to a fresh wallet using a good Bitcoin mixer. But is it even practical for the tax authorities to go after millions of Bitcoin wallets? They may be able to trace a few of them to individuals. But is it going to be worth the time and effort?

It might not be practical for the tax authorities to do this themselves, however, this will cause a very productive relationship between blockchain analytics companies and the government. There might also be some exchanges who would cooperate with the IRS similar to Coinbase.
4547  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Big Short movie, BTC edition? on: December 23, 2020, 02:25:20 AM
@philipma1957. I disagree. According to www.cryptocompare.com, Tether is 50% of the volume of the whole cryptospace, I speculate that if they were shutdown by the regulators, it will remove much of the liquidity of the many of the exchanges which also many of them are unbanked and depend on USDT's liquidity. It might cause panic buying of bitcoins and other cryptocoins to withdraw from exchanges, however, it might also cause exchanges to stop trades and freeze withdrawals. If we are successful in buying and withdrawing their coins, we might have a dry market in need of liquidity.

Also, what might happen after? In the big short, the government bailed out the banks by pumping money to the economy. I reckon the government will not bail out the cryptospace in case of our liquidity crisis. I reckon these are questions that should be with us to plant our feet on the ground.




@exstasie. The questions will never be gone until Tether, iFinex shows the documents and the audits.

Also, this is the definition of FUD.


FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and a manifestation of the appeal to fear.

Source https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt
4548  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Big Short movie, BTC edition? on: December 22, 2020, 04:16:15 AM
What Michael Burry said on 2005 is that the derivatives the were rated AAA and BBB by the corrupt rating agencies were made up of bad mortgages and the bubble would pop. Is this FUD if it is based on facts?

The definition of FUD that you are using might be wrong. FUD is based on propaganda and lies to achieve its purpose.

In any case, the mainstream media is beginning to speculate on it also. There might be a situation where this issue will be unavoidable.



Bitcoin hit an all-time high today at $20,000 and “hodlers” have been rejoicing. However the upswing this year leaves consistent questions about the issuance of Tether, the stablecoin (USDT) that seemingly has a limitless ability to print money. The flow of Tether into Bitcoin generally correlates to the rise in price particularly over the past year - whenever Bitcoin seems to fall, a load of new Tethers are created (often over $50m at a time) and buys BTC, taking the price of BTC back up.

This staggering increase of over $4b of new Tethers implies that someone paid $4b into Tether to purchase Bitcoin in just the past three months. Tether has a somewhat of a checkered past with its policy not to publish any kinds of audits nor show proof of funds. Whether or not they are the recipient of $4b of cash is not known but it raises questions especially when Tether is created over the weekends and other times when other markets wouldn’t normally trade.

So if you’re a Bitcoin believer, just follow the Tether printer and watch the printing. But if they stop printing be wary of the downside if there isn’t that injection of USDT coming so regularly. We may see more on January 21 when the NY Attorney General’s deadline for information from them.


Source https://www.forbes.com/sites/robkniaz/2020/12/16/the-problem-with-bitcoin-at-20000/?sh=5a52743024a0



4549  Economy / Exchanges / The future of exchanges in the cryptospace on: December 22, 2020, 03:27:30 AM
This article.

I speculate that the cryptospace will be fractured to the compliant exchanges based in America like Coinbase and Gemini, the noncompliant of the rule but still KYC exchanges similar to Binance, Bittrex, others outside of America and the grey exchanges where there will never be KYC.

I am afraid that in the future, the acceptance of the coins withdrawn from each of these exchanges might be different depending where they came from. Grey exchange coins might be considered dirty coins.  



FinCEN wants to lower the threshold for automatic Suspicious Activity Reporting (SAR) under the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) that Money Services Businesses (MSB) are required to comply with to $250.00 USD on cryptocurrency transactions that cross a US border.

Additionally, FinCEN wants to change the definition of "money" to include Convertible Virtual Currencies (CVC).

This is bad for many reasons, I encourage you to take a few moments to read through the rule changes and think critically about the implications.


Read in full https://www.econoalchemist.com/post/fincen-fatf-purposed-travel-rule-changes
4550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Scalable, private, mobile-friendly cryptocurrency on: December 22, 2020, 01:55:42 AM
@bigslimvdub, @estenity. I reckon just preserve buying power at present, our pumping whale is gone hehe. He might return and surprise everyone when everything has calmed down similar to the last time he pumped Aeon.
4551  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DeFi hacks [history] on: December 22, 2020, 01:12:07 AM
@Shallow. This might be either be the developers of Defi are incompetent fools or they are themselves the hackers of their own Defi projects. After what we have witnessed here in the cryptospace, it would not be shocking if hacking own project is the new for of exit scam.
4552  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon Musk on Bitcoin: "Bitcoin is almost as bs as fiat money" on: December 22, 2020, 12:33:07 AM
Related to Elon Musk's mention of bitcoin, the mainstream news media likes to twist the truth and create another clickbait. Elon Musk did not inquire about moving large transactions to bitcoin. It was Michael Saylor who was going to Elon Musk's tweets to larp about bitcoin.



Elon Musk inquired about converting “large transactions” of Tesla Inc.’s balance sheet into Bitcoin in a Twitter exchange with Michael Saylor, a prominent booster of the digital currency.

Source https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-20/musk-inquires-about-moving-large-transactions-to-bitcoin
4553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DeFi hacks [history] on: December 21, 2020, 02:43:18 AM
How can we know if the developers of Defi are not the same group of people?

@zasad@. Another one for your list hehe. You should add all the losses from the Defi hacks and post how much the total losses are for 2020. We can compare 2020's total with next year's total.



Decentralized finance (DeFi) lending protocol Warp Finance has experienced a flash loan attack that resulted in a loss of $7.7 million worth of stablecoins.

Warp said the attack essentially allowed one user to borrow more funds than their collateral value, resulting in a loss for other users or lenders. Flash loans allow users to borrow funds without collateralization, provided the funds are repaid within a single blockchain transaction.


Source https://www.theblockcrypto.com/linked/88415/defi-warp-finance-attacked-lost-7-7-million-stablecoins
4554  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon Musk on Bitcoin: "Bitcoin is almost as bs as fiat money" on: December 21, 2020, 01:39:47 AM
Remember how J.K. Rowling trolled people on twitter by asking about Bitcoin? I'm pretty sure Musk is doing something similar, he probably finds it hilarious how some crypto-enthusiasts are cheering that he is supposedly bullish on BTC or other coin. And he probably finds it really funny how his tweets pumped DOGE by 20% almost instantly. Bitcoin does need endorsements from any celebrities, and I would never tell any of my friends to buy Bitcoin just because Elon Musk might like it.

However, he is also one if the smartest people in the world. Bitcoin is similar to fiat has also been an unpopular argument in the cryptospace community but an argument not closed. According to the argument, bitcoin is similar to fiat, not similar to gold because it was created by man, it has a version no. and a group of men can decide to fork it to issue more coins or fork it to print more coins for themselves similar to Roger Ver.
4555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: December 20, 2020, 04:00:32 AM
Someone should remind getmonero.org's administrator to update the website's SSL certificates. This is the bull market, I reckon many people will be going to the site and see this.


Make sure your computers Time/Date is correct.

They are correct. The other image, it is impossible for it to have the wrong date and time because this was from my Android phone. The administrator clearly fixed the problem after 15 minutes. He saw my post hehehehe.
4556  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Big Short movie, BTC edition? on: December 20, 2020, 02:23:45 AM
@exstasie. Did you read the article? I would argue that it is not FUD because it is not based on lying.

You don't seem to understand what FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) is.

I'm not arguing the facts, like whether Tether commingled funds or doesn't have 100% backing, etc. Facts are not FUD.

For you to take the very limited facts we have (basically, the ones laid out in that article) and speculate that Tether is about to collapse, that is FUD. You're just speculating without strong basis and spreading fear. That's the kind of empty speculation I don't like to participate in.

It's perfectly reasonable to say Tether is risky and shady, and that one shouldn't hold USDT. I would leave it at that instead of beating a dead horse with this "Tether is going to collapse tomorrow" shit.

Beginning on 2005, Dr. Michael Burry saw the shadiness of the banks in the housing market. No one saw and everyone refused to see what he has seen when he began his big short move. If he went to forums and told everyone about this, would it be FUD based only on speculation also?
4557  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: December 19, 2020, 04:07:55 AM
I am not certain on the 3 faces, however, the others are the bloody faces of Donald Cerrone, Rafael dos Anjos, Kevin Lee and Anthony Pettis hehehe.

In any case, agreed on your statement on Geoff Neal. He also has 5 rounds for his fist to connect to Wonderboy's chin hehe.
4558  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Big Short movie, BTC edition? on: December 19, 2020, 03:43:27 AM
@exstasie. Did you read the article? I would argue that it is not FUD because it is not based on lying. It was only a speculation that it might cause a big short similar to the 2007 financial crisis because there are people behind this economy who do very questionable things to pump the market. See the difference? This story behind Tether might become a movie of one of the greatest financial schemes in history.
4559  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: December 18, 2020, 04:06:21 AM
Marriota was doing the team well until the turn over. I reckon. It appears the Chargers will win the game with only a field goal.

Update - Chargers kicker missed hehehehe!

The game is going to over time.
4560  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Big Short movie, BTC edition? on: December 18, 2020, 04:01:28 AM
@exstasie. However, where is the FUD? It is Bitfinex, Tether and iFinex's business activites that are questionable. No one is conjuring stories based in lies and nothing. They are based on the acts of people behind Tether itself.

This article might provide more knowledge for you.



Bitfinex is one of the historically largest Bitcoin exchanges and Tether is by far the largest stablecoin. Each potentially has significant influence over the industry on their own, and their interconnectedness makes this more of a concern. However, since both were founded years ago and many of the events have happened and been in revealed in bits and spurts it can be difficult to understand their place in the cryptocurrency environment. This will hopefully serve as a basic introductory document that will then prompt further research.

Source https://bennettftomlin.com/2020/12/08/an-introduction-to-the-tether-bitfinex-controversy/
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