KNS Nesletter:
"Since the Neptune was released it’s firmware has been updated and Neptune owners worldwide have been fine-tuning their settings to achieve maximum efficiency. Through this widespread deployment we’ve been able to gather info on how much power they consume in different environments, voltages and setups - and can conclude that the Neptune is the most efficient Bitcoin miner on the market today.

Here’s a comparison chart with the a few of the most talked-about hardware miners’ power requirements as reported by their users online - or - as stated/promised by it’s manufacturer (one may read such claims with a ”grain of salt”).

POWER (J/GH) - at-the-wall

0,57 J/GH - KNC Neptune - 1950 watts at 3400 GH/s (reported average)
0,62 J/GH - Bitfury BF3500 - 2200 watts, 3500 GH/s (stated, unconfirmed)
0,76 J/GH - Spondoolies SP30 - 3200 watts at 4200 GH/s (reported average)
0,77 J/GH - Antminer Bitmain S3 - 388 watts at 441 GH/s (reported average)
1,10 J/GH - Terraminer IV - 2200 watts @ 2000 GH/s (stated, unconfirmed)
1,20 J/GH - Avalon3 - 350 watts @ 290 GH/s (stated, unconfirmed)

”Reported average” = average real-world figures as reported by users.
”Stated” = as promised by it’s manufacturer, not sufficiently confirmed by user reports.

The Neptune Bitcoin Miner has actually reached even lower figures in specialized setups, as low as 0.43 J/GH, as reported by some of our customers."

They are so arrogantly full of shit :-)

Don't be lazy and go and research it. Youi should never believe what people say but always make an effort to research things yourself.  Most of people who keep up to date with bitcon news know that Bitfury has just opened another massive DC. Can't be arsed pointing you to articles you can easily google up yourself. Have you got 350 posts in your counter by ask pointless questions? (rethorical question)

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/08/01/bitfury-asic-maker-builds-20mw-bitcoin-mining-data-center/

http://www.coindesk.com/bitfury-announces-hosted-mining-services-business-customers/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ccs8e/bitfurys_20mw_bitcoin_mining_data_center_in_the/

Google.com

It looks like newest Bitfury's DC has got probably 30 PH not 20 PH as it was claimed.

I think you may need to get your own cables according to Dogie's review:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725760.0

That's called GREED

Black Arrow removed my message about Hong Kong's Consumer Council sending me an e-mail and letter with confirmation of opening up the case against Black Arrow.

Now Black Arrow has just tried to blackmail me in private message. Here is the conversation. I've got print screens which I will upload online later.

Black Arrow:
 Sent to: BitCoin Operated Boy on: Today at 04:01:25 PM

Dear Customer,

What is your order number?

Regards!
Black Arrow
   
Me:

I will not provide you with my order details as you threatened forum members with consequences.

If you want t know my order number then you shall see it on the letter from Consumer Council regarding my complaint.

Black Arrow:

How can we ship your order first if you do not let us know what order you want to be shipped?
What kind of consequences can we threaten with?

Me:

I requested a refund two and a half months ago. I do not want the miner to be shipped now. It was supposed to be shipped in February. I'd like to receive my refund. The order number is stated in the letter and you can refer it to my refund request tickets submitted on https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/support/index.php?

How can we refund if we do not know what order to refund?

Me:

Are you willing to refund it if I give you my order details. And if so when will you process the refund?

Black Arrow:

I need to look into your your order to answer to this question.

Me:

Sorry but that obviously means that you are not willing to process the refund. Sorry but I'm not stupid.
Once you confirm you will refund my order and when then I will give you the order number. I only ordered one X3 worth $6,028.15.
If you don't confirm then please refer yourself to the order on the letter from the council.

Regards,

Black Arrow:

If you do not wish to receive a refund that is up to you. We will ship your order then.

Me:

I've got a print screen of this conversation. I'm going to keep sharing it on the forum as long as it is required.
You have gone to far again. I won't tolerate your childish threats of refusing to refund my order. If you try to ignore my refund request by sending the miner you will ger your miner back and I will do the best I can for you to take consequences of this.
I will use the content of this conversation to support my claims against your comapany.

How about the mountain of btc they sit on. You can easily track their wallet and see how much they've got.

They prefer to hoard it for themselves than sell it and process the refunds...

Yes that's the one

Black Arrow removed my message about Hong Kong's Consumer Council sending me an e-mail and letter with confirmation of opening up the case against Black Arrow.

Now Black Arrow has just tried to blackmail me in private message. Here is teh conversation. I've got print screens which I will upload online later.

Black Arrow:
 Sent to: BitCoin Operated Boy on: Today at 04:01:25 PM

Dear Customer,

What is your order number?

Regards!
Black Arrow
  
Me:

I will not provide you with my order details as you threatened forum members with consequences.

If you want t know my order number then you shall see it on the letter from Consumer Council regarding my complaint.

Black Arrow:

How can we ship your order first if you do not let us know what order you want to be shipped?
What kind of consequences can we threaten with?

Me:

I requested a refund two and a half months ago. I do not want the miner to be shipped now. It was supposed to be shipped in February. I'd like to receive my refund. The order number is stated in the letter and you can refer it to my refund request tickets submitted on https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/support/index.php?

How can we refund if we do not know what order to refund?

Me:

Are you willing to refund it if I give you my order details. And if so when will you process the refund?

Black Arrow:

I need to look into your your order to answer to this question.

Me:

Sorry but that obviously means that you are not willing to process the refund. Sorry but I'm not stupid.
Once you confirm you will refund my order and when then I will give you the order number. I only ordered one X3 worth $6,028.15.
If you don't confirm then please refer yourself to the order on the letter from the council.

Regards,

Black Arrow:

If you do not wish to receive a refund that is up to you. We will ship your order then.

Me:

I've got a print screen of this conversation. I'm going to keep sharing it on the forum as long as it is required.
You have gone to far again. I won't tolerate your childish threats of refusing to refund my order. If you try to ignore my refund request by sending the miner you will ger your miner back and I will do the best I can for you to take consequences of this.
I will use the content of this conversation to support my claims against your comapany.

Black Arrow removed my message about Hong Kong's Consumer Council sending me an e-mail and letter with confirmation of opening up the case against Black Arrow.

Now Black Arrow has just tried to blackmail me in private message. Here is teh conversation. I've got print screens which I will upload online later. It will be certainly removed so I will keep reposting at as long as necessary.

Black Arrow:
 Sent to: BitCoin Operated Boy on: Today at 04:01:25 PM

Dear Customer,

What is your order number?

Regards!
Black Arrow
   
Me:

I will not provide you with my order details as you threatened forum members with consequences.

If you want t know my order number then you shall see it on the letter from Consumer Council regarding my complaint.

Black Arrow:

How can we ship your order first if you do not let us know what order you want to be shipped?
What kind of consequences can we threaten with?

Me:

I requested a refund two and a half months ago. I do not want the miner to be shipped now. It was supposed to be shipped in February. I'd like to receive my refund. The order number is stated in the letter and you can refer it to my refund request tickets submitted on https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/support/index.php?

How can we refund if we do not know what order to refund?

Me:

Are you willing to refund it if I give you my order details. And if so when will you process the refund?

Black Arrow:

I need to look into your your order to answer to this question.

Me:

Sorry but that obviously means that you are not willing to process the refund. Sorry but I'm not stupid.
Once you confirm you will refund my order and when then I will give you the order number. I only ordered one X3 worth $6,028.15.
If you don't confirm then please refer yourself to the order on the letter from the council.

Regards,

Black Arrow:

If you do not wish to receive a refund that is up to you. We will ship your order then.

Me:

I've got a print screen of this conversation. I'm going to keep sharing it on the forum as long as it is required.
You have gone to far again. I won't tolerate your childish threats of refusing to refund my order. If you try to ignore my refund request by sending the miner you will ger your miner back and I will do the best I can for you to take consequences of this.
I will use the content of this conversation to support my claims against your comapany.

You can always send bunch of Eastern European buddies or debt collectors to sort them out :-)

I have received e-mail and letter from Hong Kong's Consumer Council that they have opened up the case for me.

I have not been in this thread since I posted pissed off comment in January about them stealing 40% of my refund plus fee. Seeing all the crap here now Im really glad I got my refund before it was too late :-)
Haven't been that lucky with Black Arrow and Hashfast though

I don't think that BA employees make up more than 1-2 people besides the director in the whole company ... :-)

I'm not sure if I understand your hosting offer.

"Costs for the hosting plan will be as follows:

    1 Month of free hosting
    5 Months hosting for $310 each
    $100 Setup fees
    $150 Bulk shipping cost

The total for the above fees is $1,800 for a period of 6 months."

Does it mean that if I want 1 month free hosting I have to pay for the whole package?

If not, if I choose one month free hosting instead of free shipping, what is the shipping cost I would need to pay to have it shipped to UK?

That's the type of response is very similiar to recent responses from Black Arrow.

I tell you guys, BA nad XBTec are the same people :-)

XBTec is Black Arrow lol they stole/sold this information to/from themselves :-)
They are the same people :-)

Hahahahahahaha hilarious

Try minersource thread