That is why I wrote that this is the second cause. However, it happens to be. How many ordinary casino visitors have heard about Bitcoin? How many have used it, how many people from them will want to create their own lightning node? Chips in casinos can be bought for fiat currency much easier and faster.
Yes you're right, but if you want to gamble undeclared or illegal money, it's more convenient to bring a smartphone than huge amounts of banknotes. I always play on honestly earned money so I have nothing to hide or hide. I think that someone who has dishonestly earned Bitcoins is unlikely to go to an ordinary casino. After all, there are cameras installed there and if he is wanted by the police at his Bitcoin address they will easily find information about what he looks like and can further identify him. |
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It is going to be a tough situation for the casino owners. And let's remember the fact that not all of the casinos are owned by billionaires like Sheldon Adelson. A number of them are owned by small-scale owners such as various native American reservations. So I don't expect all of these casinos to have enough cash reserves to pay their employees even if they remain closed for an extended period.
Macao is in China. There are no various native American reservations. All casinos in this city belong to private campaigns. It is difficult to condemn them for what they had fired some of their employees. Every business exists in order to bring profit to its owners. All that remains is to hope that the pandemic will end soon and the economy will start its recovery. |
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The mood with which you get up from a gambling table very much depends on the purpose with which you sat down for it. If you have only come to earn money, then the loss of course will upset you very much. However, not everyone plays gambling just to earn money. There are people who do it in order to have a good time in a great campaign. I recently rested with friends, we were in the sauna, drinking beer and playing poker. We played with chips without money, but we were interested and we got a lot of emotions.
Entertainment cant really be just attainable on having always some money in the table the fact that as long people do enjoy or do know on how to make use of their time even on the simpliest way as possible then that what matter most.It doesnt really need to gamble out but this do only limits out with some colleagues or close friends but on the rest where money does really poke out someones interest and will surely dive in.Its really hard to say that people do only mind on gambling just because of pure entertainment since majority will really be aiming for the win and because with this kind of emotion then we know that house do always win in the end and this is what makes this industry so profitable. People play in casinos primarily to earn money. They understand that "Homeland" has a much better chance of winning at a long distance, so people are trying to win at least today. And when they don't succeed, they get very upset. If you know that someone else's dog can bite if you touch it, then there is nothing to be upset about if it bites you. If you know that you have a chance to lose at the casino, then there's nothing to be upset about when you lose. |
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The mood with which you get up from a gambling table very much depends on the purpose with which you sat down for it. If you have only come to earn money, then the loss of course will upset you very much. However, not everyone plays gambling just to earn money. There are people who do it in order to have a good time in a great campaign. I recently rested with friends, we were in the sauna, drinking beer and playing poker. We played with chips without money, but we were interested and we got a lot of emotions.
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No sports betting is safe. The only exception is when you know about a negotiated match, but if the bookmaker finds out about it, he can cancel the match results.
I don't think this is true, have you already seen a sports that was cancelled because bookies believe that the it's a negotiated match or a fix match? Personally I have not seen such cases, but I do not bet on sports as often as many other people on this forum. Many bookmaker's offices reserve the right to cancel the results of the match if there is evidence that the match was negotiated. I can look for similar rules in their terms of use. If such cases are possible then how the bookmakers able to find out if the match is negotiated? I mean, how can they present a strong evidence before the match even ended? Through whistleblowers? Do they have spies in the management of each teams? I'm a little bit curious because this is new to me  . I don't know how bookmakers will know that the match was negotiated. Perhaps such information appears to the police or somewhere else. Maybe someone made a very big bet on the incredible outcome of the match. There are a lot of players in the contract matches, someone can talk to his wife, she will tell her friend and so the information went further. |
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In china the government reported a case where a gambling Gang as they stated were using cryptocurrencies to transfer funds abroad. According to them trillions of yuan's are illegally being transferred abroad due to gambling.
They are taking it further by saying how it's not just a financial problem but it's a conspiracy against their nation as a whole.
Now they are making this bigger by saying how these cryptocurrencies and gambling are making it harder to track the transactions. BUT ! Isn't it easier to track these transactions as compared to fiat ??
Perhaps this is just an excuse to tighten the rules regarding crypto currencies circulation in China. Crypto currencies as well as fiat money can be used by both good people and criminals for their dirty purposes. The Chinese authorities can't control the circulation of funds in cryptocurrencies, which is probably why they don't like them so much. |
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No sports betting is safe. The only exception is when you know about a negotiated match, but if the bookmaker finds out about it, he can cancel the match results.
I don't think this is true, have you already seen a sports that was cancelled because bookies believe that the it's a negotiated match or a fix match? Personally I have not seen such cases, but I do not bet on sports as often as many other people on this forum. Many bookmaker's offices reserve the right to cancel the results of the match if there is evidence that the match was negotiated. I can look for similar rules in their terms of use. |
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А в чем риск? Боитесь что соскамят токены?
Вы хотите продать 0.5 BTC, токенизировали и продаете лесенкой или равными долями каждую неделю, или или оставили их в залог, если вам сейчас нужны деньги.
Не обязательно брать 70% от стоимости, можно оставить в залог на смартконтракте 1BTC и получить 5000 $. Маржин колл сработает при цене близкой к 5000$, но деньги у вас, купите за них BTC.
Опасность в том, что если рынок уронят на час-день, и вы не успейте перезакупиться.
Я для себя просто в этом смысла никакого не вижу. Мне не интересно торговать деривативами из-за их высоких рисков, по той же причине не интересно торговать и токенизированным Биткоином. Мне нравится торговать самим Биткоином и я ничего не хочу менять. Зарабатываю я не много, если сравнивать с заработками на фьючах, но и потерь у меня никаких нет. Если бы у тебя застряли биткоины на Окех, ты бы поменял мнение или смирился и пошел на другую биржу? В России введут обязательную отчетность, ты будешь декларировать из за своего" заработываю не много" или выведешь и биржи ? Я понимаю к чему вы клоните. Этот децентрализованный токен даст вам возможность не зависеть в торговле от централизованных бирж, но вы будете зависеть от безопасности смарт контракта. Также будете уплачивать комиссию в эфире за транзакции к нему и от него. Это ваш выбор, он мне не подходит, потому что я привык торговать только биткоином, без всяких производных. Я не скрывал никогда из какой я страны, у нас есть свои национальные биржи на которых можно торговать без уплаты налогов вплоть до 2023 года, требуется КУС. Однако в случае чего я имею судебную защиту, к тому же биржи проходят ежегодный аудит у одной из фирм из большой аудиторской четверки. |
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No sports betting is safe. The only exception is when you know about a negotiated match, but if the bookmaker finds out about it, he can cancel the match results.
Small odds are usually when one opponent in a match is much stronger than the other.
Remember the champions season 2015-2016 of the soccer FC "Leicester City" in the premier league, which before that almost flew out of the championship. Odds for matches against this team at the beginning were very small. And such examples can be cited many. You can win dozens of bets with odds of 1.15, and then in one loss you will lose everything you have earned before.
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People really think that since the authorities allowed the casino to reopen, they immediately started earning money like before. Some even quote impressive statistics on the growth of casino visits in October compared to September. However, no one compares how many people visited the casino before the pandemic and now. I think the numbers will differ several times. That's why they decided to fire their employees.
The truth is that all industries and sectors of the economy that depended on people spending money on things that they didn't needed have faced a downturn, it's not only casinos but look at restaurants, cinemas and any other business model that depended on money spending from people just because, and you'll find out that their profits have gone down significantly, and this is because people are afraid and they want to spend money only on what is necessary and also because a lot of people have lost their jobs and they do not have money to spend. You say so "sectors of the economy that nobody needs". I don't think that's the best formulation. People also need cinemas, restaurants, gyms, casinos and other leisure facilities. Without them, our life would be boring and would remind us of a factory robot's life with breaks to go home to his family. It's just that in times of crisis, when there is a danger to life and health, people primarily choose the most necessary things without which they will not live. They leave everything else for better times. In addition, with the crisis many people lost their jobs or began to earn less. In this situation, they definitely do not need a casino. |
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А в чем риск? Боитесь что соскамят токены?
Вы хотите продать 0.5 BTC, токенизировали и продаете лесенкой или равными долями каждую неделю, или или оставили их в залог, если вам сейчас нужны деньги.
Не обязательно брать 70% от стоимости, можно оставить в залог на смартконтракте 1BTC и получить 5000 $. Маржин колл сработает при цене близкой к 5000$, но деньги у вас, купите за них BTC.
Опасность в том, что если рынок уронят на час-день, и вы не успейте перезакупиться.
Я для себя просто в этом смысла никакого не вижу. Мне не интересно торговать деривативами из-за их высоких рисков, по той же причине не интересно торговать и токенизированным Биткоином. Мне нравится торговать самим Биткоином и я ничего не хочу менять. Зарабатываю я не много, если сравнивать с заработками на фьючах, но и потерь у меня никаких нет. FontSeli - как я понимаю, тут полное доверие смарт-контракту и применяется схема под обмен, значит не надолго. Это как то, как мы по разному воспринимаем риски.
Я не специалист по аудиту смарт контрактов, а в них иногда находятся лазейки, поэтому не мое это. |
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I voted YES.
I always read the terms of use on exchanges and gambling sites, as well as other platforms where I make or receive money. I began to do this after one exchange blocked my funds for a month and asked to provide documents about their origin. I lost a lot of time and nerve to get that money back. In the rules of the exchange it was written that they are entitled to it, so the law was on their side. After this case, I started reading the terms of use wherever I register my account.
People wont really make any changes if they haven't experienced unfortunate events but there are still people who do continue to have this kind of behavior on where not reading up ToS neither on a gambling site/exchange or other platforms that have their own set of rules and terms. Its always better to read it up so that you would really be fully aware and would able to avoid problems later on.Its better to be aware than to be blind and end up regretting when they had already confiscate your funds. Our forum exists so that all of us could tell our story, and other people could read it and learn from others' experiences. I hope my story will help other people understand that they must read the ToS of any site where they register and contribute their money. I managed to get my money back and I remembered this lesson forever. |
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Я эти проекты видел, но так и не понял, в чем профит переводить свои дорогие биткоины? Они будут на чужих адресах, а что мне дадут токены на эфире, полученные в таком же размере?
Не на чужих адресах, а на адресах децентрализованного протокола, который не имеет доступа к вашим средствам. У эфира комиссия маленькая, унисвап прекрасно работает. Это возможность продавать биткоины без централизованных посредников и выполнять их условия. Передумали продавать, реверс работает. Насколько эта схема безопасна, и есть ли возможность потом сказать "возвращай все назад", а в ответ тишина? А так Лежат Биткоины на своем кошельке, есть не просят и ты полностью уверен в их сохранности. Конечно как альтернатива торговле на централизованных биржах данный токенизированный вариант BTC вполне может сойти, но я бы не рискнул токенизировать свои Биткоины надолго. |
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I voted YES.
I always read the terms of use on exchanges and gambling sites, as well as other platforms where I make or receive money. I began to do this after one exchange blocked my funds for a month and asked to provide documents about their origin. I lost a lot of time and nerve to get that money back. In the rules of the exchange it was written that they are entitled to it, so the law was on their side. After this case, I started reading the terms of use wherever I register my account.
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Maybe I am getting older. This is why I am becoming more and more conservative. If I like sites where I already play, I will never go looking for new sites for gambling. Even if they will offer very large bonuses. Why waste time getting used to the interface, to check user feedback about a gambling site, if you were satisfied with everything on previous sites?
I always thought I was the only one who had that aging problem. But luckily I found another fellow sufferer, hehe. Getting older also has its advantage. There are so many of us.  It's enough to reach the comfort zone to relax and start enjoying yourself, as well as to get frozen in your habits. Nevertheless, I try to follow the news in areas that interest me. But I've learned for myself a long time ago that if you don't understand something and you can't understand it, it's better to leave this site with bets and place your bets elsewhere. |
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Our life is short. So there's no need to waste time on things we don't like. If you think that the site bets are not made correctly or you just don't understand how it works, it's easier to leave than to find out for a long time whether they work correctly or not.
People do some crazy things in life and others think about experimenting things on new platforms they see that's why there are others who like to visit in some new site since there are few people believe on beginners luck beliefs. But if the budget is limited and cannot afford to lose more faster maybe you are right to leave on the things we don't know since by their we can avoid such unnecessary losses which the new site offers which confuse us. Maybe I am getting older. This is why I am becoming more and more conservative. If I like sites where I already play, I will never go looking for new sites for gambling. Even if they will offer very large bonuses. Why waste time getting used to the interface, to check user feedback about a gambling site, if you were satisfied with everything on previous sites? |
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Done. Of course, you could have asked gambling sites to place an additional warning about the conditions of receiving and withdrawing the bonus. However, when registering on the site each user agrees to the terms of use, which means that he had to read them to agree.
unfortunately not all gambling sites can provide bonuses for new users because if the gambling place provides that method many will register and try to make withdrawals to their wallets, maybe if they give a bonus there must be a minimum limit for making withdrawals which might be used as a solution best for gambling places. I do not know any gambling site where you can withdraw the bonus immediately after receiving it. Usually the site requires a certain number of games, make a certain number of bets and so on. Such rules are provided so that people do not register multiple accounts and do not withdraw bonuses from each of them. |
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Bounty hunters spend their time to promote the project. Time also costs money.
Bounty hunters should not agree to work for tokens of new projects that are not yet traded on the exchanges. Because they do not cost anything and quite often it turns out that bounty hunters work for free.
As soon as bounty hunters start to appreciate their time and stop working for tokens, they will be valued much better.
The problem is that 95 % of the bounties do offer tokens that are not listed on major exchanges. In 2017-2018, I participated in more than 30 bounties, only 1 got listed on binance ... These days, interesting and good bounties are rarely found... That's why so many good posters prefer to participate in bounty campaigns where payment is made in bitcoins. Payment in tokens is always a risk, primarily the risk that the tokens of the project will cost cheap. However, sometimes there are really big rewards among such projects. Personally, I prefer not to risk working for those who pay with promises. |
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Due to the fact that casinos aren't allowed in Brazil, I haven't desire to see physical casinos accepting bitcoins while I can play it online.
Of course, the thrill of betting on a fruit-machine or texas hold'em table is unmatched by any online experience, but I happily predict that cryptocurrencies will soon be widespread among these establishments as well.
For those who have ever been to a good regular casino game in online casino will not be so colorful. Of course, if you play at online casinos, payment in Bitcoin is the most convenient thing you can come up with. You do not need to use your plastic card and no one will know your real name. In regular casinos the payment with Bitcoin does not make much sense to me. And at the moment payment in Bitcoin is even less convenient. |
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That's the reality for bounty hunters, they are not being treated fairly as the same as how investors were treated. Their reason is because bounty hunters are receiving their tokens for free unlike for investors who spend their money to receive the token. But they don't think of the effort given by the bounty hunters to promote the project.
Bounty hunters spend their time to promote the project. Time also costs money. Bounty hunters should not agree to work for tokens of new projects that are not yet traded on the exchanges. Because they do not cost anything and quite often it turns out that bounty hunters work for free. As soon as bounty hunters start to appreciate their time and stop working for tokens, they will be valued much better. |
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