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461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: March 03, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
Hope we get the materials soon so translations and PR would start . Roll Eyes
Who will do work for PR? community's plan / dev's plan?
community! Waiting for the materials to get the PR going.


Count in myself and Selsonblue for some of the PR work and unvoid is working on the website, which he should be putting up shortly on Github.

Thumbs up boys!
462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: March 03, 2017, 01:38:05 PM
I will be happy to assist with pr or additional issues when/if possible.
its unusual though, we haven't heard from EK for 4 days. Hope he's ok !

keep calm, he wrote here yesterday.   Tongue
sorry , my bad ! But I don't see anything after 2/27.  Smiley

EK has the habit to write stuff and to delete it right away.  Grin
463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer on: March 03, 2017, 01:15:54 PM
I will be happy to assist with pr or additional issues when/if possible.
its unusual though, we haven't heard from EK for 4 days. Hope he's ok !

keep calm, he wrote here yesterday.   Tongue
464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2017, 01:14:49 PM
looks more like a lunch-box  Tongue

yes, an adorable lunch-box  Tongue

mit kleinem henkel zum tragen  Wink
465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2017, 01:26:54 AM
i am more of an car guy  Wink

Right on.



love it!
466  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2017, 01:21:20 AM


time for a bigger boat?

i am more of an car guy  Wink

467  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2017, 01:03:25 AM
I did help a friend buy some in 2014 at $600, who sold at just over $200 because he couldn't stomach the drop. Never again.

I considered recommending it in the $200s, but thought better of it. Most people will hold a hidden resentment against you if it drops, and their loss will become your burden.

... and it can be even weirder than that. Many people will also resent you if you recommend a winner and they don't buy and it goes up ... basically any time you put yourself in the situation of "i'm right, you're wrong" or "i'm wrong, you're right" and there's financial advantage involved, they will resent you ... it's lose-lose.

Strangely, if you charge them exorbitant fees and call yourself a "financial adviser" all that burden goes away and you can gamble with their funds like a drunken sailor.

Yeah, Friends&Family and financial advice is a VERY difficult subject.

True fact. Just today my father said me that i should sell a portion, and thinking in it better i passed to explain him my expectatives lol.

Yeah, and they never listen. I have some friend and gave him early last year the advice to buy some ETH with around 20% of his overall crypto investment. He did. The next day i wake up and look at my whatsapp. 5 messages from him. "Hey dude you know Ripple!? Its da shit! And do you know Lisk!? Its da shit!"

Turns out he went to Polo, listened to the silly trollbox and invested all of that remaining 80% in Ripple, Lisk and some other shit.  Grin

Seriously if they don't respect your advice...
468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2017, 12:43:42 AM
I did help a friend buy some in 2014 at $600, who sold at just over $200 because he couldn't stomach the drop. Never again.

I considered recommending it in the $200s, but thought better of it. Most people will hold a hidden resentment against you if it drops, and their loss will become your burden.

... and it can be even weirder than that. Many people will also resent you if you recommend a winner and they don't buy and it goes up ... basically any time you put yourself in the situation of "i'm right, you're wrong" or "i'm wrong, you're right" and there's financial advantage involved, they will resent you ... it's lose-lose.

Strangely, if you charge them exorbitant fees and call yourself a "financial adviser" all that burden goes away and you can gamble with their funds like a drunken sailor.

Yeah, Friends&Family and financial advice is a VERY difficult subject.
469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: March 02, 2017, 04:40:40 PM
A comparison serves to find similarities and differences.
But a comparison is not an equality!
Do you want to go further on the topic?

To show that your own little project is inferior, posting such a flyer wouldnt make any sense at all. You dont post stuff like that to show that you are inferior, you obv post it to argue that you are better. And you, as someone who was here one year ago, know that obv. It was part of the concerted pre ICO PR-hype.

My question of getting payment wasn't meant as offense. I have seen other projects who had kind of community managers which job it is to answer questions and keep a good overall mood. Nothing wrong with that!

I just got curious as you are barking away 24/7 anyone who dares to say just the slightest negative thing against Lisk or Max.

Nevermind, i am not invested nor short in Lisk so, nice afternoon! At least Bitcoin is rising, which should make everyone happy.  Wink
470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: March 02, 2017, 04:23:00 PM

If i am interpreting that little comparison correctly they not even just compared the two, they also made the point that Lisk is superior to Ethereum.  Wink

Of course you will deny that, but as someone who was around one year ago i remember very lively the vibe that surrounded our little flyer here. It was posted like 100x a day with the overall attitude that Ethereum better go and hide cause now Lisk is coming.  Grin

Edit: Otherwise, just to show that your own little project is inferior, posting such a flyer wouldnt make any sense at all. You dont post stuff like that to show that you are inferior, you obv post it to argue that you are better.

Most of these statements to ETH last year came from users and not from the Lisk team.

Some translated ARK threads have the same comparison, only added with ARK

You are aware of that this little flyer was made by Max?

But i am sure he never intended to be compared to Ethereum.  Grin

Seriously, there comes a point where you have to accept failures. You are writing here day in day out to bark away even the slightest critic or doubt. Sometimes i ask myself if you got funded to do so or if you are just overinvested and not able to admit defeat.
471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: March 02, 2017, 04:07:18 PM
growth? come on.

any smart ICO investors sold this bag long long time ago, just like charles' friend.

It took almost two years for Ethereum to realease their first wallet... and they have already liquidated the foundation... lack of funds they said... 🤔 https://www.easymonitoring.ch/handelsregister/ethereum-switzerland-gmbh-1172550

Objectively, LiskHQ has still all its funds and have accomplished quite a bit in less than 1 years. Well done LiskHQ, keep up the good work 😀👍

the problem here is always comparing a 2-fanboy team to a mega dev community.



Exactly, Lisk is the mean team which only hires a few devs, how can they compare it with Ethereum, the second best project in crypto community? Ethereum never thinks Lisk as the competitor, Lisk is just a toy compared with sophisticated Eth.


But nobody from the Lisk Team has ever equated with Ethereum.

I sm sure they never did.  Grin



Yes SURE!

This is a comparison and no equality. I hope you know the difference  Grin

If i am interpreting that little comparison correctly they not even just compared the two, they also made the point that Lisk is superior to Ethereum.  Wink

Of course you will deny that, but as someone who was around one year ago i remember very lively the vibe that surrounded our little flyer here. It was posted like 100x a day with the overall attitude that Ethereum better go and hide cause now Lisk is coming.  Grin

Edit: Otherwise, just to show that your own little project is inferior, posting such a flyer wouldnt make any sense at all. You dont post stuff like that to show that you are inferior, you obv post it to argue that you are better.
472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: March 02, 2017, 03:57:22 PM
growth? come on.

any smart ICO investors sold this bag long long time ago, just like charles' friend.

It took almost two years for Ethereum to realease their first wallet... and they have already liquidated the foundation... lack of funds they said... 🤔 https://www.easymonitoring.ch/handelsregister/ethereum-switzerland-gmbh-1172550

Objectively, LiskHQ has still all its funds and have accomplished quite a bit in less than 1 years. Well done LiskHQ, keep up the good work 😀👍

the problem here is always comparing a 2-fanboy team to a mega dev community.



Exactly, Lisk is the mean team which only hires a few devs, how can they compare it with Ethereum, the second best project in crypto community? Ethereum never thinks Lisk as the competitor, Lisk is just a toy compared with sophisticated Eth.


But nobody from the Lisk Team has ever equated with Ethereum.

I sm sure they never did.  Grin

473  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: March 02, 2017, 03:46:18 PM

Am besten sieht man es an der Reaktion des Kurses ob es ein Abpraller (bzw. Bestätigung) oder ein Durchbruch war.

Bin aber auch der Meinung das wir durch sind.


Ich denke es ist Zeit zum Anschnallen.
Und am Besten noch einen Helm (Alu?  Cheesy) aufsetzen.


Es dürfte in nächster Zeit 'ruppig' werden.
Der Rollercoaster erwacht demnächst.

800 und 2000. Alles drin.
474  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2017, 03:44:07 PM
<snip>

b..but....media evil?

this "the media has an agenda" stuff is kinda funny anyhow. so much positive articles about bitcoin like in the last 3 months have never been before. no matter where you look everywhere folks get explained how bitcoin stuff works and why it has value and so on and on. but lets just ignore that and cry "media evil!"

So show me all these so-called 'positive' Bitcoin articles on Mainstream media sites like Bloomberg and Business Insider (and NOT on dedicated sites like Coindesk, CoinTelegraph, and CryptoCoinsNews).

Go on, I'll wait.

Here's another Bitcoin hit piece for ya while I'm waiting:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-28/bitcoin-s-top-rival-is-up-90-and-readying-its-next-big-move

LOL. Yeah whatever, evil media is against Bitcoin. Sure it is. Move on.

So couldn't find any, could ya?  Wink

No i couldnt. Only articles out there that say: Bitcoin is evil,stay away!  Cool

As expected they follow all one big agenda.
475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
<snip>

b..but....media evil?

this "the media has an agenda" stuff is kinda funny anyhow. so much positive articles about bitcoin like in the last 3 months have never been before. no matter where you look everywhere folks get explained how bitcoin stuff works and why it has value and so on and on. but lets just ignore that and cry "media evil!"

So show me all these so-called 'positive' Bitcoin articles on Mainstream media sites like Bloomberg and Business Insider (and NOT on dedicated sites like Coindesk, CoinTelegraph, and CryptoCoinsNews).

Go on, I'll wait.

Here's another Bitcoin hit piece for ya while I'm waiting:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-28/bitcoin-s-top-rival-is-up-90-and-readying-its-next-big-move

LOL. Yeah whatever, evil media is against Bitcoin. Sure it is. Move on.
476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: March 02, 2017, 03:35:08 PM
growth? come on.

any smart ICO investors sold this bag long long time ago, just like charles' friend.

It took almost two years for Ethereum to realease their first wallet... and they have already liquidated the foundation... lack of funds they said... 🤔 https://www.easymonitoring.ch/handelsregister/ethereum-switzerland-gmbh-1172550

Objectively, LiskHQ has still all its funds and have accomplished quite a bit in less than 1 years. Well done LiskHQ, keep up the good work 😀👍

The big issue for Lisk is that they are competing in a field in cryptocurrencies (namely Dapps) that is already dominated by one big (and very successful) Player. If you need your time, no problem, but then better be an innovator that brings something completely new to the market and not something that others have done years ago.

You see, when Ethereum needed years to accomplish their goal, there was no other version of this idea around. And for sure no version that dominated the market in a way that Ethereum is just now.
477  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf blockgrösse on: March 02, 2017, 03:29:23 PM


Das Interessante ist ja auch die Eigendynamik die das Ganze bekommt. Man hat den Eindruck das beide Seiten (angefeuert durch Emotionen) erst Recht radikale Standpunkte einnehmen. Nur um die andere Seite noch mehr zu provozieren. Das Core dabei mit Maxwell und Luke zwei Leute an Bord hat die eine Vorgeschichte haben was Provokationen und Eskalationen angeht (Stichwort:Wikipedia zb) macht die Sache nicht besser.

Solche Kommentare sind für mich nichts anderes als bewusst Öl ins Feuer zu giessen und die Gegenseite zu blödsinnigen Aktionen zu animieren:

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/5wyqfi/it_will_soon_cost_more_to_confirm_a_transaction/deek7jn/
478  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: March 02, 2017, 03:19:56 PM

Gox gebrochen. Jetzt ist also endgültig und unmissverständlich ATH.
479  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2017, 02:49:10 PM
I just watched the most ridiculous Bitcoin COIN ETF hit piece on Bloomberg video:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-12-19/winklevoss-twins-prepare-first-ever-bitcoin-fund

Constant pictures/ video spliced in of 'physical bitcoins' in the background (which everyone knows are collectable and not the real bitcoin, makes it look like a toy), the interviewee pointing out negative after negative, etc.  Both the interviewer and the interviewee were literally laughing and scoffing at the idea of an ETF the whole time, like it was one big joke.

It's like the Media has an agenda to keep Average Joe investors skeptical of Bitcoin and scared away from touching it, and especially investing in the ETF.


Seemed like they were laughing more at the idea of a bitcoin ETF than at bitcoin itself. I actually think he made some good points.

https://twitter.com/VinnyLingham/status/835145632998387713

EDIT: for instance, he says in the Bloomberg video that it makes more sense to buy bitcoins directly than to buy the ETF. Gotta agree with that, no?

b..but....media evil?

this "the media has an agenda" stuff is kinda funny anyhow. so much positive articles about bitcoin like in the last 3 months have never been before. no matter where you look everywhere folks get explained how bitcoin stuff works and why it has value and so on and on. but lets just ignore that and cry "media evil!"
480  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Der aktuelle ETH Kursverlauf on: March 02, 2017, 02:27:36 PM
Sorry.. Ich hab jetzt wirklich einiges über die Technologie und dem geplanten Zusammenschluss von Ethereum und XY gelesen, aber ich versteh nicht wirklich warum der Preis deshalb steigt.

Im Moment geht es doch nur um die Technologie Ethereum und nicht die Cryptowährung Ethereum , oder?

Sorry.. steh gerade brutal auf dem Schlauch..

Hoffe es kann mir jemand erklären.

Verwirrte Grüße,
Euthpoker

Geht um die Cryptowährung.

Gestern gab es auch eine Äusserung seitens Sony das man Ethereum als interessant erachtet.
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