no more predictions?
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Yeah, it's great if you don't mind not having 2FA to log in and getting pillaged in fees. From their fee table at https://796.com/vip Tier Total volume Futures trading commission Stock trading commission Withdraw fee VIP0 0 0.6% 1.2% 1.2% VIP1 10 0.6% 1.2% 1.2% VIP2 100 0.5% 1.0% 1.0% VIP3 1000 0.4% 0.8% 0.8% VIP4 10000 0.3% 0.6% 0.6% VIP5 100000 0.2% 0.4% 0.4% VIP6 1000000 0.1% 0.2% 0.2% You have to trade 1,000,000 BTC volume before you get on PAR with btct.co's trade fees, nevermind that you'd already spent a fortune in fees to get there. And you can NEVER get on par with btct.co's withdrawal fees which are basically free with the exception of the bitcoind client's fees. I don't think I've seen fees that bad anywhere.  Hi burnside, Since we’re futures exchange, the volume will be great with leverage. The VIP value is easy to earn. And we count 3 times value for automatic settle on Sundays. There has already several members with VIP4 so far. And this VIP tier plan will show its great advantage in the near future. Another reason for the commission plan is that we have free 796Futures-PD exclusively: https://796.com/stockpd?lang=enNow we gift stocks according to trading volume. For earlier investors, the value of the stocks they get has increased 5 to 10 times; and now the investors can get free stocks for their trading and the value of the stocks can compensate the commission. We guess this is preferable and comforting. See here: https://796.com/other/stock.html?lang=enAbout login, users are required to enter Google authenticator after they enable it when they access to their accounts(Mt. Gox style). Besides, we have our creational security code which is saved completely separated and members are requested to enter the security code manually when they want to withdraw. And then we will check the code ourselves. That’s to say, we could definitely protect our users’ fund unless they let out their security code themselves. Thanks for your attention and your advice. 796 Exchange Glad I was wrong on the 2FA. (It must be on some second step page somehow?) Regarding the fees... If you do the math using the table by the time a trader reaches VIP6 (PAR with btct.co at 0.2% with 2FA enabled) the trader will have paid: (900,000*.004 = 3600) + (90,000*.006 = 540) + (9,000*.008 = 72) + (900*.01 = 9) + (100*.012 = 1.2) = 4222.2 BTC in fees. Or, you could just turn on 2FA on btct.co and for your first 1,000,000 in volume pay less than half that at (1,000,000*.002) = 2000 BTC in fees. I realize there are some alternate products, but for ASICMINER trading, you're paying a lot more in fees unless you hold enough stock to get 50% of the fees back... 2222.2 BTC is a pretty wide gap to close with dividends. Hi burnside, Thanks for your question. Yeah, 2FA is in "Security Options", you may see here: https://796.com/bank/safe. About the fee, I'm sorry you're giving a wrong answer. It's like this: VIP1 10*0.006 = 0.06 BTC VIP2 （100-10）*0.006 = 0.54 BTC VIP3 （1000-100）*0.005 = 4.5 BTC VIP4 （10000-1000）* 0.004 = 36 BTC VIP5 （100000-10000）*0.003 = 270 BTC VIP6 （1000000-100000）*0.002 = 1800 BTC besides, we just charge commissions when the users are opening a position,but we count trading volume including: volume when open a position and volume when close a position thus, the commission to reach VIP6 actually is: (0.06+0.54+4.5+36+270+1800)/2=1055.55 and we count 3 times volume for automatic settle(so the VIP value is also 3 times) on each Sunday this fee is far less than yours and VIP tier is permanent for our users. if you have further question, please feel free to let us know. Kind regards, 796 Exchange |
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近几日比特币价格一直围绕着90美元作整理。如前日分析得那样，虽然看似下跌中继形态，但因有前一波较强上行后仍有一定的多头惯性，所以在无大利空消息下不会一下扭转趋势而大幅下跌，需要一定的时间确认后再选择方向。短线需关注93美元位，整理在此位之下为偏空，如继续弱势则今明有机会下试80美元位。
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假如遇到滥发股票的情况怎么办？如果发行量无上限，所有的“估值”都是虚的，一推就倒。
一点不了解烤猫，随便瞎说一下，说错别恼。
烤猫是经过时间验证的股票，BTC世界的股票都是基于对公司的信任，这点需要你去考虑！ |
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Now Satoshi Dice has been sold off, is ASICMiner the only decent security left with a healthy, long term dividend return? (Apart from meta-securities like BTCInvest which invest in other securities). LTC-Global fits that bill nicely, although it is traded in Litcoins not Bitcoins, on litecoinglobal.com. As far as I can see there isn't a passthrough on btc-tc (yet). For the sake of transparency I own at least 10 shares of it and am therefor a board member, so keep that in mind. (For the sake of bragging I bought in a few months ago at under 70LTC, and it has traded for over 300LTC recently.  ) With yield below 5%, along with thin volume and huge bid-ask spread. I think coins are better put to work elsewhere. I would recommend looking at 796 exchange. For full disclosure, I do trade on 796 and own 796 stock. 796's 'btc-settled' future on BTCUSD exchange rate brings something new to the table and allows one to either hedge their BTC, arbitrage opportunity, or long / short BTC with leverage! Also, you can trade ASICMINER passthrough there as well. Yeah, it's great if you don't mind not having 2FA to log in and getting pillaged in fees. From their fee table at https://796.com/vip Tier Total volume Futures trading commission Stock trading commission Withdraw fee VIP0 0 0.6% 1.2% 1.2% VIP1 10 0.6% 1.2% 1.2% VIP2 100 0.5% 1.0% 1.0% VIP3 1000 0.4% 0.8% 0.8% VIP4 10000 0.3% 0.6% 0.6% VIP5 100000 0.2% 0.4% 0.4% VIP6 1000000 0.1% 0.2% 0.2% You have to trade 1,000,000 BTC volume before you get on PAR with btct.co's trade fees, nevermind that you'd already spent a fortune in fees to get there. And you can NEVER get on par with btct.co's withdrawal fees which are basically free with the exception of the bitcoind client's fees. I don't think I've seen fees that bad anywhere. Hi burnside, Since we’re futures exchange, the volume will be great with leverage. The VIP value is easy to earn. And we count 3 times value for automatic settle on Sundays. There has already several members with VIP4 so far. And this VIP tier plan will show its great advantage in the near future. Another reason for the commission plan is that we have free 796Futures-PD exclusively: https://796.com/stockpd?lang=enNow we gift stocks according to trading volume. For earlier investors, the value of the stocks they get has increased 5 to 10 times; and now the investors can get free stocks for their trading and the value of the stocks can compensate the commission. We guess this is preferable and comforting. See here: https://796.com/other/stock.html?lang=enAbout login, users are required to enter Google authenticator after they enable it when they access to their accounts(Mt. Gox style). Besides, we have our creational security code which is saved completely separated and members are requested to enter the security code manually when they want to withdraw. And then we will check the code ourselves. That’s to say, we could definitely protect our users’ fund unless they let out their security code themselves. Thanks for your attention and your advice. 796 Exchange |
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我们公司在近几年积累的各方面经验，资本都是目前国内其它团队没法比的，所以我们能有高起点，能去送股，在公司最初就能投入较多的人力物力，交易平台要用到的东西，基本都用最贵的，而且我们从来不吹牛，不说我们接受了多少亿的投资，也不说我们是哪哪出来的。真正有钱的有实力的人不需要太多的吹嘘。像很多大佬都是穿个T就出来了。后面如果决定走联交所上市路线，那么这二年我们的成本会高不少，光税就可能是500万，当然，我们不是没钱去做这些，只是一个正常的资本运作需要，如果接受风投的话我更愿意面向公众，让大家共同参与进来，效果会更好，所以我们在等待业务上的稳定，细节上的完善后会去考虑整体先在796上市。相对其它国内类似网站我们的优势有二点，一是我们可以有更多的金钱上的投入可以做到更专业，我和我的合伙人原先都是较成功的创业者。二是我所设计的东西在国内来说是比较创新与选进的，在国内我相信目前来看还不会有人能设计出比我更好的东西，因为在金融方面的认知（不是书本上的那种）我应该还算目前比特币领域比较可以的。
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hi,
We know that the trend analysis isn't going well.
What we want to say is that Mr. Zhu is trying his best to share his views here and hope this can be a little bit help for you.
And we also know that he cannot be 100% right for the short-term forecast all the time.
We really appreciate you guys spend time reading this and some might have followed this closely.
Yet, you need to think carefully before invest.
We hope people can make money and be happy.
If this caused inconvenience, we're sorry.
the following is from yesterday:
The short-term trend is similar to earlier drop. The trend won’t reverse immediately because of abrupt drop in the uptrend and it needs time to be confirmed. Currently, the price falls too much and we may decide direction after further consolidation. The long-term trend is still dropping slowly downwards. For medium-long term, we may pay attention to price above or under 100$.
We wanna remind our friends that his forecast is aiming short-term trend and one day in advance at most.
So, you still need to decide yourself and just take this as a reference.
Sincerely,
796 Exchange
It was a big mistake, but nobody can be always right. Any analysis is welcome.  A problem is maybe a matter of timing, it's short term prediction and the analysis seems to be posted half a day after the forecast. With short term prediction, things can evolve fast. When you posted the last analysis, the price was already falling (making the analysis obsolete). yeah, the post is indeed delayed about 3-4 hours. will improve this. thanks for your reminding. appreciated. |
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hi,
We know that the trend analysis isn't going well.
What we want to say is that Mr. Zhu is trying his best to share his views here and hope this can be a little bit help for you.
And we also know that he cannot be 100% right for the short-term forecast all the time.
We really appreciate you guys spend time reading this and some might have followed this closely.
Yet, you need to think carefully before invest.
We hope people can make money and be happy.
If this caused inconvenience, we're sorry.
the following is from yesterday:
The short-term trend is similar to earlier drop. The trend won’t reverse immediately because of abrupt drop in the uptrend and it needs time to be confirmed. Currently, the price falls too much and we may decide direction after further consolidation. The long-term trend is still dropping slowly downwards. For medium-long term, we may pay attention to price above or under 100$.
We wanna remind our friends that his forecast is aiming short-term trend and one day in advance at most.
So, you still need to decide yourself and just take this as a reference.
Sincerely,
796 Exchange
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very nice post
Predict a rise to 110 and instead having a fall to 80s, I don't know if we can call it a "nice post"... neither "the most reliable analysis"  He cannot be always right. The original intention to creating this post is to give his view and Bitcoiners may take this as a reference. You still need to think carefully when you're operating. And he's just forecasting short-term trend(one day in advance at most). We're sorry if you follow closely to his forecast and make a loss. kind regards, Nobody saw the sale of Satoshi Dice coming which triggered the short fall. I can't believe people are holding that against him. yeah, we noticed the news yesterday. thanks Ares. it's not easy to earn complete trust and he's just do what he thinks is right. take care. |
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The problem is that so far he has been wrong much more often than right.
Hi there, most members on our platform do very short term investment and we carry weekly settlement. i know he's wrong recently. but most do make money following his forecast. i'm not defending him, just wanna say maybe we should see this in the long run? thanks. |
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hi,
We know that the trend analysis isn't going well.
What we want to say is that Mr. Zhu is trying his best to share his views here and hope this can be a little bit help for you.
And we also know that he cannot be 100% right for the short-term forecast all the time.
We really appreciate you guys spend time reading this and some might have followed this closely.
Yet, you need to think carefully before invest.
We hope people can make money and be happy.
If this caused inconvenience, we're sorry.
the following is from yesterday:
The short-term trend is similar to earlier drop. The trend won’t reverse immediately because of abrupt drop in the uptrend and it needs time to be confirmed. Currently, the price falls too much and we may decide direction after further consolidation. The long-term trend is still dropping slowly downwards. For medium-long term, we may pay attention to price above or under 100$.
We wanna remind our friends that his forecast is aiming short-term trend and one day in advance at most.
So, you still need to decide yourself and just take this as a reference.
Sincerely,
796 Exchange
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very nice post
Predict a rise to 110 and instead having a fall to 80s, I don't know if we can call it a "nice post"... neither "the most reliable analysis" He cannot be always right. The original intention to creating this post is to give his view and Bitcoiners may take this as a reference. You still need to think carefully when you're operating. And he's just forecasting short-term trend(one day in advance at most). We're sorry if you follow closely to his forecast and make a loss. kind regards, |
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我发现在796的BTC不能转出到自己的BTC地址，要什么‘安全码’，但是设置安全码后几个小时，安全码一直在备案中，是不是就是不让人取BTC啊
安全码完全分离式存，人工备案。一般情况下二小时内完成！谢谢～！如有问题请点龙击主页右下联系客服！ |
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在目前这个领域 还属于混沌期。太多的虚假与欺骗～当然随着时代的进步，虚拟货币行业在快速地改变，慢慢的那些虚假的不会再有市场，取而代之能成为主流的会是哪些诚信的正规的东西！这是必然！
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顶！！！支持揭发！让更多人不再上当！
796, 你是796.com的老板吗 是的！我是决胜千里！ |
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BTC sent, please start trasnfering. thanks.
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能把796烤猫分红你们最后的一位四舍五入，而不是直接抹去吗？我是个很斤斤计较的人。
昨日已经发放红利，拿到多少发多少！谢谢！ 烤猫发的每一只PT股分红0.02536692 796上面你虽然把每一只PT股分成了100份，但并不表示后面的92可以直接就抹掉。你们实际发的是0.00025366. 为何不四舍五入？ 我们在发放红利时是输入小数后十位的，只是系统默认是显示小数后8位，实际就是按你说的发放的，谢谢！ 不对，那你查查我在你们交易所的帐号，我的帐号就是论坛这个帐号，我的是1900股，但是你们给的增减值是0.481954BTC。如果按照你所说的，应该是0.481971（如果后面两位不显示）才对！ 请核实。 刚才又确认了一下，的确是系统小数计算问题 在计算时直接去掉了第9、10位没有累计进去。 我们目前已修正，在下周开始会在计算每个帐户的实际总利息时对第9、10位数四舍五入。 |
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very nice post
Thanks. |
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Today's update:(GMT+8)
From the 4-hour chart, it reveals just like the update from 2 days ago. The strong correction stays at a relatively higher price area. Currently the correction approaches $100 from hour chart. And buy strength is stronger. It will break out to upside any time if correction continues to be at 100$. The upside target area is $110-$115.
Thanks!
The update from 16th, July is still applied. Thanks. |
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