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481  Other / Archival / Re: Binance & Mt Gox on: March 10, 2018, 01:44:33 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that it was a coordinated attack instigated by state sponsored actors to crash the market. E.g. https://youtu.be/qqdCVle7zD4
482  Other / Serious discussion / Re: For Bitcoin to survive in the long term: thoughts? on: March 10, 2018, 01:41:47 PM
Hi folks,

I think 2018 will be a crucial year for bitcoin. Price is going down and will probably keep going down for a while, but if we forget all speculation talk, do you think bitcoin can survive and become a real currency with LN technology?

For me, the fact that bitcoin does not promote anonymity anymore is perhaps a good thing. Let's be honest, our western governments will never allow anything for anonymous payments.
So the point is not to escape (totally) from the system. To pay taxes, I am personally fine with it.

Whether it is an exchange currency, independent from banks and especially not held by central bank allows to have a global reference.

In my mind, you pay taxes on each payment. It's called "bank operating costs". And banks stuff themselves like crazy. In 30 years these banks managed to lay down their law whereas they were only intended to make exchanges fluid (and for instance help producing wealth). We saw that this system is wobbly, but some organizations have become too big to fail (therefore  "above the laws" of the market and democracy).

Instead of paying these fees to the banks, you pay a fee to the miners AND to the government (tax). Instead of paying the fee to a bank, you feed the redistribution of wealth at the State level. The State finds again some control over its currency, and uses a neutral and free of intermediary payment vector.  

The fact that the quantity is limited? Yes maybe it is an issue. But it is divisible almost to infinity. So we can talk in BTC or satoshi, it's just a change of reference. Knowing that in absolute terms,  there is no value reference it does not bother me (but speculation will need to be stopped at some point and I believe that's what is happening right now).

Then bitcoin is not a way to help the "dark market". It's just a technology that eliminates the trust 3rd party in a transaction.      

Right, this is purely a mathematical vision but it's worth a discussion!

I wouldn't worry too much about the recent drop in price. It was the result of a coordinated attack. That being said, I expect the lightning network to be a failure for various reasons - to the point where there will be no large switch over. I suspect that Bitcoin will instead turn out to be the gold standard of cryptos and will be used in large transactions, including transactions between sovereigns. In addition, Bitcoin pretty much still dominate the market and has a lot of network effect going for it. It will take a lot of effort to dethrone it.
483  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Hacker returns $17M worth of stolen Ethereum on: March 10, 2018, 01:19:12 PM
I saw on a news here; http://bitcoinist.com/hacker-returns-17m-worth-of-stolen-ethereum/#  how a hacker returned $17m worth of Ethereum which was stolen from CoinDash (a tool aiming to help users manage, track and analyze their crypto assets).
I have been thinking what moved him to return the coins because he wasn't tracked for the Ethereum he stole.
Guys, what's your take on this? What do you think that stirred his emotions to return the coins? Probably this could be used on other hackers to return stolen coins too.

It could be an inside job, but if it is indeed an anonymous hacker who returned the ETH, then it is certainly an act worthy of praise. Good for him/her. That being said, CoinDash certainly have an ungrateful attitude, especially considering that they've reported the address to the Counter Cyber Terrorist Unit in Israel. Is that how you reward a good deed? I think not. The only message it sends is that you wish to be fcked over harder the next time around. Shame on you.
484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] DEBITUM NETWORK - !!! BOUNTY CLOSED !!! on: March 07, 2018, 12:56:09 PM
I hope you didn't forget about Telegramm. And tell us please if we can delete "Debitum Network Supporter" from our nicknames.

The last time I checked, they said it is safe to remove it from our nicknames.
485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] DEBITUM NETWORK - !!! BOUNTY CLOSED !!! on: March 07, 2018, 12:46:47 PM
There is certainly a serious reduction in the number of tokens allocated for the article/blog campaign. The stakes per accepted article should be between a 100 and 500 stakes: https://web.archive.org/web/20180307123712/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2733965.0 Now it is between 1 and 3 stakes. Someone from Debitum should explain what's going on. It doesn't look kosher.
486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] DEBITUM NETWORK - !!! BOUNTY CLOSED !!! on: March 07, 2018, 12:06:55 PM
If your article(s) were rejected and you feel it is a mistake, be sure to reach out to the bounty manager via private message. Remember to include your SP number(s) to make his job easier. Thanks.
487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] DEBITUM NETWORK - !!! BOUNTY CLOSED !!! on: March 07, 2018, 09:08:55 AM
My article https://coinzzz.pro/debitum-network/ (spreadsheet #1984) accepted thank you!
But the steaks are not assessed.
What could be the matter?

Send the bounty manager a private message. He will sort it out.
488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] DEBITUM NETWORK - !!! BOUNTY CLOSED !!! on: March 07, 2018, 07:55:25 AM
It was said that tokens will be distributed within a week after crowdsale is over. Still haven't got anything on my wallet.

According to the last update (posted a week ago): "Bounty and referral tokens will reach your wallet in the next 15 days. Our team will try to do this as soon as possible, though. This is because more than 10,000 people signed up" (https://blog.debitum.network/quick-information-important-know-crowdsale/).

Oh, really. My bad, didn't see it. Thanks mate!

Sir, I have a question it says that DEB token is based on standard ERC223, does MyEtherwallet support this?

Yes, as long as you don't send your DEB tokens to exchanges that don't support the ERC223 standard, including ForkDelta and EtherDelta.
489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] DEBITUM NETWORK - !!! BOUNTY CLOSED !!! on: March 06, 2018, 10:42:39 PM
It was said that tokens will be distributed within a week after crowdsale is over. Still haven't got anything on my wallet.

According to the last update (posted a week ago): "Bounty and referral tokens will reach your wallet in the next 15 days. Our team will try to do this as soon as possible, though. This is because more than 10,000 people signed up" (https://blog.debitum.network/quick-information-important-know-crowdsale/).
490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] DEBITUM NETWORK - !!! BOUNTY CLOSED !!! on: March 06, 2018, 10:34:27 PM
I really dont  get the  stake into my work..  why?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2733965.msg29859249#msg29859249

No need to worry. There is plenty of meat to go around. Send the bounty manager a private massage and he will have a stake into your work in no time.
491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] DEBITUM NETWORK - !!! BOUNTY CLOSED !!! on: March 06, 2018, 10:19:07 PM
Manager, why you reject the most articles without reason? 1/10 of my work is accepted. Can you check my work one more time? It's sad situatioun

I am sure if you send him a private massage he would be more than willing to help you out with your situatioun.
492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] DEBITUM NETWORK - !!! BOUNTY CLOSED !!! on: March 06, 2018, 01:16:27 PM
I would like to know why so many articles were rejected without a reason being given, while ones with copied content and grammatical errors received up to 3 stakes? E.g. https://cryptoindonesia.com/debitum-network/
493  Other / Serious discussion / Re: To all scammers on: March 06, 2018, 09:40:11 AM
Every scammer will be left behind one way or the other. Because a new world is about to form. Were tech and crytpo unite. Also a world where peace will prevail, and thus there will be no place for dishonest people

This whole statement is ideal, meaning possibility of it going to happen is 0%.

Old scammers will go, but new scammers will emerge. No matter what changes come or how advanced the technologies are, there no end in people that will do things just for their own self satisfaction.

Meaning Humans are great because of what we built, but most of the time scary, as they can do such things just to have what they want - greed, jealousy, envy, power etc. You can say that every person is sane, but deep inside there are irrationality going on.

Wise and true words. To claim otherwise would be to deny reality itself.

Thousands of years of real history shows beyond a reasonable doubt that we're capable of greatness and also have the ability to scoop down to the lowest of levels - far beyond what even the animal kingdom can muster. While the public at large remains blinded by strong illusions and lies - and ourselves to some extend or another, the trend will be downwards and mistakes of the past will be repeated again - leading to the wholesale slaughter of millions upon millions of people again in the final equation. Because let's not kid ourselves, the end result of unchecked criminality - not only scamming - is always ditches and bulldozers. This while the scary reality is that most people are not even aware of the real massacres that went down in history. The blind lead the blind after all and end up in a ditch.

You're absolutely right, there is a constant struggle between sanity and insanity within us - and it is a hard struggle, especially when insanity is declared to be sanity in the name of political and religious correctness. As I always say, the human condition is the saddest condition of all. Yet, there is always a sparkle of hope to ignite the possibility to become better and aim for and achieve greatness through a mix of hard work, dedication, luck and wisdom. The choice is ours - both as individuals and as a collective.

In addition, while the statement made by Bonanzacoin may be ideal as a whole, such statements are absolutely necessary. We have to dream it first before it can stand a chance to become reality. History can be made! We don't have to march in lock step with the past, especially when it comes to repeating the mistakes of the past. 
494  Other / Serious discussion / Re: To all scammers on: March 02, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
Scammers took advantage, because today cryptocurrency rises, and there are a lot of beginners involves in cryptoworld. Otherwise, most of people believes quickly in terms of money, while scammers advertise more believable scams they want. I hope these scammers will be gone in crypto because maybe these scammer will pull down cryptocurrency.

I am sorry to say, but they are selfish bastards and low life losers. They could have made tons of money along side us in a legal way, but chose instead to place the whole nine yards at risk, while indiscriminately stealing from others, including the poor and vulnerable. I started out with a very small amount that I've built up. They have no real excuses. They have the expertise to defraud, but not enough brain power to make a normal living in this space... it doesn't add up. Except if the bulk of these maggots are bought and paid for by corrupt governments and banksters. Then their actions make perfect sense. Anyhow, I suppose I find it difficult to understand the criminal mind. Instead of choosing to be Robin Hood, they choose to be outright a-holes.
495  Other / Serious discussion / Re: To all scammers on: March 01, 2018, 05:57:19 PM
Bitcoin stands for humanity, fair money system, decentralization, democracy, equality and transparency. This is the systems that the world needs the most.

But, its need awareness and consciousness from its user to be smart and watch every greed on their self, otherwise, scammer will eat you crudely.  

it was the conclusion to anyone's mind before but that is not what it is today. they don't know what is the difference of fear and shame. Blind of money is  what makes them greedy, The point here is not psychological,emotional, or financial, what causes these kind of disease is not having true contentment.

Agreed. I am afraid if we fail to stop the greediness and blindness we will before long lose the whole nine yards. E.g. I am seeing too many people in this space who are keen to get government and banksters to babysit. They don't see the red lights. It is like they've completely forgotten the reasons why we have cryptos in the first place. In terms of not having contentment, this song sums it up perfectly: https://youtu.be/sffBQpWDPeo
496  Other / Serious discussion / Re: To all scammers on: March 01, 2018, 04:36:21 PM
You are quite an idealist and too optimistic here. This will NOT happen. Society praises scammers once they have truly won. Look at all the most famous world's banking families, JP Morgan, Rockefeller, etc. They have ALL started as bandits and criminals and murderers in their old days, then they have won, and now they are the world's most respected families. The grandfather of H.W. Bush, Prescott Bush, was making deals with nazis, this is where the family money came. Everything is forgotten. The winner takes all. Prestige included.

I agree, it is easy to lose hope and difficult to push forward. However, I remain confident that positive change will come if enough of us push forward. Their main tool of control are their ability to manipulate public opinion - and in effect the masses. I am confident that this manipulation will only work up to a certain point before it backfires in their faces - people are getting fed up of false narratives and outright lies. Needless to say, we have to use the tools at our disposal wisely. There are many good men and women that will stand up once they wake up from their deep slumber.

In addition, we should forget about Superman coming to our rescue. We will have to unite and collectively rescue ourselves - even if such unity is only based on a sense of humor.
497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] DEBITUM NETWORK - Borderless SME business funding ecosystem on: March 01, 2018, 02:14:23 PM
Is MYETHERWALLET o.k to use the upgraded erc223 tokens or do I need to open a new wallet for the upgraded versions? I look forward to receiving my DEBS soon as the last project I invested in coming out of Singapore has turned into a real delight for me. I really want to go to Singapore this year sometime as well and meet up with all these great TOKEN TEAMS that either I have invested in or hold a stake through bounties. Singapore is the Switzerland of Asia right now and the Fintech Palace! There are a ton of great reviews on DEBITUM on Youtube as well, I checked a few out this week.

Yes, as long as you don't send your erc223 tokens to exchanges that don't support it, including decentralized ones such as EtherDelta (ED) and ForkDelta (FD).
498  Other / Serious discussion / Re: To all scammers on: March 01, 2018, 12:58:11 PM
1. "Even if that's the case, again education is not enough. We NEED deeper than education, that is consciousness - psychological approach. They have to realize whether if they're being deceived at that moment. Performing sales talks, even con arts"

Education should be sufficient to teach people what methods are used against them and how to combat it, including the various methods of psychological warfare.

In short: Education itself is enough to bring a deeper understanding without getting dragged down with psychological BS predominantly based on subjective nonsense.

This is not to say that we shouldn't for one aim to have public opinion on our side, but there are honest ways to do it without having to fall back on subjective BS (screwing with the minds of people).

2. "Ok. Why not just give support or suggest this to existing organizations that are by the way have the reputation and the people to get the job done"

With "existing organizations," do you mean government agencies like INTERPOL and the FBI? If yes, like I've indicated above - the door will be left open for cooperation, but efforts to combat scammers will not be fully dependent on their efforts. Why? State agencies have shown that they only serve public interest to a certain extent (e.g. https://news.bitcoin.com/rogue-silk-road-agent-admits-to-stealing-bitcoins-seized-by-u-s-marshals/) - the very reason why cryptos were born. State agencies failed to protect us against criminal bankster scum and their lackeys.  

In terms of non-state players that share the vision to bring scammers to task, the same principal as above will apply, namely: "the door will be left open for cooperation, but efforts to combat scammers will not be fully dependent on their efforts."

3. "By ensuring justice you mean all of them, right? Well, I must admit your idea is not impossible to do and quite impressive (I mean that in a good way).
But I'm sure that one group belonged to a much larger group of people. An organization, a syndicate of some sort.

There are many things to really have to consider here. And to the fact that this is a private organization, for sure the government will not just sit still and approve of this instantly, they will be intrigue and to the point that this is in the global scale, not to mention that there are already agencies like this.

These special task force units will be questioned. This is also a political matter, what if they will consider you as a threat and not a help"


I am not 100% sure what you mean with: "By ensuring justice you mean all of them, right?"

And yes, criminal syndicates and groups are definitely involved. This doesn't mean that those who wish to fight these criminal syndicates and/or groups can't pool resources in order to take the fight to them. Like them, we also have to group up and smart up.

In addition, while the organization will be set up in a legal manner - its creation and efforts must not be allowed to stand or fall in terms of government approval (or any half-assed 'legalized' sense or standard of justice). It will combat corrupt governments and members of corrupt governments with the same ferocity as the fight against scammers and/or black hat hackers.

Yes, there are many things to consider here, but nothing is impossible. And again, if you're in reference to state agencies when you state "not to mention that there are already agencies like this," then you already have your answer. The organization will not seek to be babysitted by any government. Cryptos are about taking our own destinity in our hands - not waiting on goverments to do it for us.

Yes, chances are that the special task force units will be questioned, but like I've indicated, they will predominantly operate like private investigators. When muscle is required, alliances could be formed with private security companies, traditional law enforcement agencies and such across the world. If that fails, it will encourage the Dexters of the world to take action. We cannot sit with a situation where the public at large are continuously treated as slaves, goods to be traded or stolen - all based on fake, half-assed standards of justice and protection.

In terms of hackers/scammers, there should be an amnesty period to come clean and join the good fight. Anyone that wants to get clean should be given the chance to get clean. The aim of the proposed organization will be to save lives while combatting criminality as defined by good, old-fashioned common sense. Anything less, will simply not cut it.

In any case, there you have it, my two satoshis (or the traditional two cents/pennies). I stand by what I've written. Sorry for not getting into it at length, but that must suffice for now.
499  Other / Serious discussion / Re: To all scammers on: February 28, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
I can't help to wonder how many of them are bankster/state sponsored actors - people who are getting paid to bring disrepute to cryptos.

We need to set up an international non-profit organization that can be used to actively:

1. Educate people on how to spot and avoid becoming victims of scams,

2. trace and track down perpetrators

3. and make sure that justice is served!
I don't know about you mate, but you're being naive right now.

These kinds of people are just into the money, they don't care about anything else as long as their satisfactions are sustained.

International non-profit organization, nice name, but who would bother do that. Besides, if we say international, we also have to consider the consent of other countries and to be honest that's a very low chance. And so you think that they will give it a shot somehow, it would take a lot of time.

1. Its like training a hacker here or an investigator. I wonder who would be interested in that, considering that countries already take measures in those cases.

2. Again, people won't be as good as those people that are specialized to do this. Besides, it would take a lot of time. You're not going to find them that easy.

3. Talk about international laws, if we have one. It depends on the country to where they belonged to. If they committed a crime (which is scamming people), the authorities who have the power to arrest people whatever country they are in. Some agencies like, Interpol or FBI, they are specialized in these kinds of stuffs.

I am not going to go into it at length here, but you assume and read a lot into my previous post that are simply not there.

1. " Its like training a hacker here or an investigator. I wonder who would be interested in that, considering that countries already take measures in those cases" - No, my response in regards to that specific point is about empowering ordinary people to be able to spot scams through education. Nothing more, nothing less.

2. "Again, people won't be as good as those people that are specialized to do this. Besides, it would take a lot of time. You're not going to find them that easy" - Nowhere did I indicate that people with special abilities and skills won't do the tracing and tracking down (or that it will be done by ordinary people).

3. "Talk about international laws, if we have one. It depends on the country to where they belonged to. If they committed a crime (which is scamming people), the authorities who have the power to arrest people whatever country they are in. Some agencies like, Interpol or FBI, they are specialized in these kinds of stuffs" - Yes, international law is a relative term and cooperation with agencies such as Interpol can not be excluded, but efforts to ensure justice is served will not be limited or stand on their efforts alone. The idea with the proposed organization is to create a private organization that is supported by membership contributions, but actual field work - beyond the work needed to educate the public at large - will be done by setting up special task force units that have the expertise required to trace and track-down scammers on a global basis. They could be seen as private investigators operating in a highly specialized area. And yes, the approach from country to country will most likely differ, but make no mistake - there are many ways to skin a cat, just as scammers are using many ways to defraud and steal.

I think you will be surprised how many people with the skills required would be willing to help out, including white hat hackers. This might sound naive, but it is certainly not an impossibility. Difficult? Yes. Impossible? No.

"These kinds of people are just into the money, they don't care about anything else as long as their satisfactions are sustained" - What are you saying? Just because they're into the money, they should not be brought to justice? I think not.
500  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Boycott Coinmarketcap - allowing ponzi to advertise on: February 28, 2018, 12:47:38 AM
We shouldn't recommend coinmarketcap.com to anyone. They are still advertising ponzis on their site. They should know better! No respect for us or newbies at all. Right now I find this garbage site in banner at top: https://profitablemorrows.com/

I agree with you to some extent, but we should be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water.
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