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481  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] PSUs, 5850, mobos. on: July 03, 2013, 02:13:55 AM





Also have a second MSI board as shown on bottom right but with AMD Sempron processor.


VaporX 2X gone.
482  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GPU mining is dead now. on: July 01, 2013, 09:11:49 PM
Ever considered solar or other alternatives if energy is one of your chief concerns? Though it sounds like there are a lot more things about mining that bother you, understandably so.

I once read a threat where these guys suggested getting a NASA engineer, or a nuclear engineer for some job....
It took about 10 posts before someone called them out for being stuck up snobs to suggest such an unreasonable overkill solution.  

If I had 10,000 K Watts of solar power.....
How much do you think that solar power equipment would cost?  
Given the smallest most optimistic rate of difficulty increase and ASIC network speed increast,
Do you believe that would make ROI, ever?
No offense.  I think you were being genuine when you suggested solar.

I wonder if anyone has had experience renting "free utilities" rental offers, and just using up all that power?
A lease with utilities included seems plausible.

Solar is only viable I would suggest if you receive free GPU, free mining eq that consumes power (more gpu, etc..), etc. In other words, if power is what is keeping you from profiting. I wouldn't suggest new hardware with investment in solar, unless purely speculative mining is taking place. The new ASICs are too low on power for it to be a concern for SHA256 coins, but that's where Scrypt comes in. I plan to use my old GPU farm mostly toward LTC and eventually on solar if the remaining SHA256 become completely unprofitable. But it's not about mining X coins per day and liquidating, as a miner, for me, watching and playing the market is important. When you convert TRC/PPC/ or whatever coin to BTC is important. Or maybe you don't want to convert that alt, like LTC.

As far as the cost, I did recent research and it's not as expensive as you would imagine, particularly if fabricating yourself. I estimated several thousand dollars would set me up based on generic costs of certain cells available, but I'm still looking into it as I have a lot more on my plate and the coal company can provide me for now. But I have two very nice east and west roof tops.

However, remember the benefits of solar go beyond mining.
483  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GPU mining is dead now. on: July 01, 2013, 09:07:04 PM

Bitcoin mining is 50% less profitable than Litecoin mining right now, see coinchoose.com

Please explain to us how you think that litecoin is more profitable than bitcoin?
50% is such a nice even rounded number, that I'd like to know how you mathematically reached it.

That website does not compare BTC to litecoin.

I used a litecoin calculator and found that it earns less coin and less USD per GPU.

I am NOT using "room to grow" speculation.
Speculation is guessing.  Guessing is not fact.
Lets talk about today, not the hypothetical future.

If you're only interested in talking about "today", you may very well not mine. Are you going to invest, get ROI today? Anytime near today? Ever before? No and no. So...

If you are going to support the false information that was offered "50% less profitable" then you are a fool.
If you are not going to read what I said, you should not attempt to insult me.  (I began this thread saying I have already earned more than my ROI.)
So lets talk about my ROI in the past, not the future.  Nice attempt to sound like a big shot with your buzzwords but you just blew your facade but trying to sound cool.

Bottom line, you are avoiding the FACT that today, and tomorrow litecoin earns LESS than BTC, and BTC is dead to GPU unless you have free power or want to risk burning out a GPU and then go into the negative.
That is to say nothing of ROI, which is long dead for GPU mining if you are thinking of buying GPUs today.

On another note, I noticed you claim to mine multiple coins.  A foolish speculative play when you can clearly see which is the better, mine that, and switch to the top coin of the day as needed.
Instead you waste your timing mining dead coins?

 Yes and yes?  So....

(PS:  Learn to read at least the first post, and keep your story straight so you don't get called out.)

You get really fired up over very little. I think you looked a little too far into what I was saying. I was simply implying looking at a coin price today and expecting anything over time on that particular number when mining is not something I would advise, which isn't what you're retorting to.. Sorry about the "buzz words".  

In the event that you were actually interested in corresponding, yes, I do mine a variety of coins. In fact, I haven't specifically mined BTC for quite some time as a primary coin and that has turned out well for me. However I don't consider it dead, rather a fallback in the event other coins are not profitable for me, as they  sometimes are not. Other coins I will continue to mine as "fairweather" (edit I mean the opposite), like LTC PPLNS, but I have other miners I switch around based on RBPPS systems generally speaking.  Not sure what you mean about mining "dead coins", to which coins are you referring to? A lot of assumptions! Just ask, the information comes out easier. I have more than one miner.
484  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GPU mining is dead now. on: July 01, 2013, 08:57:27 PM
Sorry, I just don't get it, If the rigs have paid for themselves and you (were) making $157 after bills, Then where is the problem?
My threshold is tighter, But I still make a profit, I am not going to turn off until I end up spending money in running rigs, Then I would just buy BTC and sit on it.
The problem is the dropping value in BTC, below $90 today.
Also the HEAT.  Hottest day of the year, and I already have to open all doors and windows 24/7.  Fire hazzard.
Running GPUs 24/7 is wear and tear.
If I burn out one GPU, and I am only making $157 per month, I just lost money because each GPU is worth more than that.
So it is not worth the risk of burning out 1 GPU.
Also the discomfort.
Also the dropping BTC.
Also the labor of monitoring miners and rebooting them when they are slow or go offline.

Congradulations to you for riding this out until the end.
I prefer not to lose money.

If someone has any info on free power.. I would run 1 of my miners for them!

Ever considered solar or other alternatives if energy is one of your chief concerns? Though it sounds like there are a lot more things about mining that bother you, understandably so.
485  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GPU mining is dead now. on: July 01, 2013, 08:53:55 PM

Bitcoin mining is 50% less profitable than Litecoin mining right now, see coinchoose.com

Please explain to us how you think that litecoin is more profitable than bitcoin?
50% is such a nice even rounded number, that I'd like to know how you mathematically reached it.

That website does not compare BTC to litecoin.

I used a litecoin calculator and found that it earns less coin and less USD per GPU.

I am NOT using "room to grow" speculation.
Speculation is guessing.  Guessing is not fact.
Lets talk about today, not the hypothetical future.

If you're only interested in talking about "today", you may very well not mine. Are you going to invest, get ROI today? Anytime near today? Ever before? No and no. So...
486  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Motherboard that can handle 6 Video Cards... not H61Del AsRock on: July 01, 2013, 03:12:35 PM
Have an MSI that can handle 6 X if you are interested.
487  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB BITCOINS $2000 PayPal - BANK TRANSFER - MAIL ORDER - GIFT CARDS on: July 01, 2013, 02:45:30 PM
hey dudes everyone will have his funds or his btc back. $1000 is a big amount for gift card so they have to investigate and it takes a week before processing the payment. zinodaur, it's not a week yet! bitcoiner just wait your funds and to the other fucking guy, just don't spam my thread if you don't wanna buy! if you check the link, giftrocket will show the message that payment is processing, so don't worry guys. STILL SELLING!

I am not claiming you are a scammer, just commenting that I am awaiting funds, but was not requested that I send first. Your response is encouraging.
488  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] SELLING Small to Large Quantity BTC for CASH, bank deposit, silver, gold. on: July 01, 2013, 02:14:38 PM
Edited main post. Most of the requests have been for small amounts of BTC, so I will facilitate that. Larger inquiries can PM as well!

Wells Fargo accepted. Added this to main title.
489  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GPU mining is dead now. on: July 01, 2013, 02:08:28 PM
Sounds to me like it's working out. But I'm a speculative miner as well. I don't mine LTC for today or yesterday's price, or at 30 cents. Guess how profitable those months of LTC are looking now? Mining isn't always about today..  

why would you mine if you are sure the price will raise and you can buy much more cheap coins now?

I could do both. Mind blown?

Everybody can do both. The question is what is worth of doing. If you believe the coins are undervalued and it is profitable to mine only because they will raise in value, you better sell your mining rig and buy more coins now (while they are cheap).

Somehow I disagree. I'm sorry. My miners work for me and I will continue to mine with GPU all manner of coins, BTC, LTC, TRC, PPC, or whatever is needed for diversity and ability to continue desiring to mine. Maybe that's why you don't mine? I couldn't call it. I rarely inject as much as I use existing to build or mine! The better BTC is the one I didn't pay over my mental market for.  I like crypto as a long, I am encouraging crypto online and offline. I spread information, I will accept it, I want it to succeed for a variety of reasons. Mining is additionally another way to support crypto without profit in mind, as a side note.
490  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GPU mining is dead now. on: July 01, 2013, 01:54:16 PM
Sounds to me like it's working out. But I'm a speculative miner as well. I don't mine LTC for today or yesterday's price, or at 30 cents. Guess how profitable those months of LTC are looking now? Mining isn't always about today.. 

why would you mine if you are sure the price will raise and you can buy much more cheap coins now?

I could do both. Mind blown?
491  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: GPU mining is dead now. on: July 01, 2013, 12:53:26 PM
5 minutes ago I went down to the mine and powered off each of my 6 GPU miner rigs.
I ran the numbers, with power at .087 per k watt hour,
 12000M hash speed,
current low BTC rate 94.06
Diff: 21,335,329

I would make 157 USD per month.
But BTC may or may not drop, then after BTC exchange rate fees, pool fees, transfer fees,,
GPU mining is not worth it anymore.  Not for 157 and change for the heat and stress on the equipment.


LITEcoin does not appear to be worth mining. 

Has anyone ever tried renting an apartment with "free utilities", moved in a bunch of miners, and used up free power for a while?

I guess it is time to sell of my GPUs.
Yes they did pay for themselves.  I got about 52BTC mining with them.
Paid about 5k for the gear, and paid only 700 in power so far, (Will pay another 900 tops as bills catch up)
Then after I sell off the used gear I made some profit.


Sounds to me like it's working out. But I'm a speculative miner as well. I don't mine LTC for today or yesterday's price, or at 30 cents. Guess how profitable those months of LTC are looking now? Mining isn't always about today..  The cost of my power consumption is minimal, it is something subsidized into my entire bill and I hold coin. Result is positive. Like others have said though, there is risk involved. But you're mining crypto...
492  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB BITCOINS $2000 PayPal - BANK TRANSFER - MAIL ORDER - GIFT CARDS on: June 30, 2013, 07:26:57 PM
Obvious scam, Please be careful with this user in the future.

So what - he puts the transfer through, allows you to "accept" it, then declines or cancels while in transit?
493  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Introducing Stampbit.com - a bitcoin-based provider of USPS shipping labels on: June 30, 2013, 05:51:56 PM
Will be trying this.
494  Economy / Marketplace / Re: New Fast Bitcoin Exchange in the Netherlands on: June 30, 2013, 05:50:17 PM
Love to hear new BTC exchange/.
495  Economy / Marketplace / Re: List of honest traders. on: June 30, 2013, 03:30:45 PM
Traders i consider completely trustworthy and would be comfortable doing large transactions outside of escrow are:

- Projects
- qukkM
- stuckprocess

Each of these I have completed trades where £100's have been put at risk.

S110RE

Just want to leave some GLORIOUS feedback for Projects. I am constantly in talks and he is absolutely trustworthy to every extent I have thus far imagined.
496  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTS] PSUs, 5850, 560 ti, mobos. on: June 30, 2013, 03:28:39 PM
Selling various PSUs of brand from 430 W to 1200W. Selling some 5850s, selling 2x 5870, selling 1x 560 TI nVidia. A few misc sticks of ram to go with.


Also have a shit ton of classic gaming systems (SNES, Genesis, Gamecube, Playstation, 64, etc) as a side note. PM or post here with what you're after, and I'll detail the items. I may get around to listing them here, but brands such as CoolMax, MSI mobo, etc. For the games/systems, check the link in the signature. Accepting cash, btc, ltc, silver, gold, bank transfer, money order. PayPal is acceptable for physical goods.
497  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB BITCOINS $2000 PayPal - BANK TRANSFER - MAIL ORDER - GIFT CARDS on: June 30, 2013, 03:18:08 PM
It's been over a week man. Time to give me my BTC back otherwise I'll have to issue you as a scammer.

I am supposed to be receiving something, haven't sent BTC yet. But funds haven't cleared.
498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Germany 0% Bitcoin taxes brings more value to casascius coins on: June 29, 2013, 11:21:46 AM
Beautiful.

Right in the face of the hostile business environment that is the USA.
499  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [COMPLETED & SEEKING FEEDBACK] Bitcoin Neon Signs by crypt0queen on: June 28, 2013, 09:16:34 PM
Going to want one of these.
500  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: New service for the bitcoin community (Bitcoin to cash with zero fees) on: June 27, 2013, 09:25:17 PM
As requested I have:


-eliminated the need to create an account. (other than submitting an email through the helpdesk).
-eliminated the confusing pricing/shopping cart issue.
-created a better explanation of the service.
-streamlined the entire ordering process for both the buyer and the seller.

Buying and selling is now easier.
There is no obvious way to sign up on your site as a bitcoin seller.

This is something I was also trying to relay to you. I couldn't make use of it at all without your direct contact to be honest. But I'm having 110% ease of use now, reporting more confirmed transactions successfully selling BTC through WF.

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