first they come for the assassinations, then they come for the pron, then they come for me.
Don't get caught up in the hype. Bitcoin is a tool. Many murders have been committed with baseball bats. Yet we can freely talk about baseball bats.
Baseball bat bought with USD from a Visa no doubt. |
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Hi,
Its a request about application not client.
Bob & Sam are common men with less computer skills. Both have to use bitcoins for transaction.
Bob(Buyer/B) buys flowers from Sam(Seller/S) for bitcoins.
B goes to S shop & see flowers, & he wants to buy. He sees "we accept Bitcoins" logo.
The flowers are priced in USD. B wants to buy a flower which is priced at 10 USD.
He asks S, how much in bitcoin. S tells in bitcoin & B pays, wait for confirmation, then S gives B the flowers.
Its purely my thought, may be wrong.
The most preferred method to use bitcoin for day to day life is not by physical means, but by handy devices.
I believe cell phones can help here with internet.
Most of the cell phones today at least support Java programs/application & most cell phones can connect to internet by wifi, 3G, 4G......
B using his cellphone buys flower. He opens the application which is password protected. The application has no addresses & no coins.
he goes to shop & see the flower & asks the price in bitcoins.
S uses his cell phone or he already knows the bitcoin price against USD.
still, S opens the same application B uses in his phone, goes to mtgox or any site & knows the usd vs btc price & tells it to B.
B thinks & he also checks usd vs btc using his cell phone & wants to buy for the price S said.
B asks S to give his address, so that B can send bitcoins.
S opens his application, the application shows a receiving address which is received from internet form S account.
Now S asks B cell phone number, & enters B's cell phone number in to the application & the application sends an SMS to B from S cell phone.
B receives the SMS message & his application takes the address from SMS message.
Then B receives/withdraw bitcoins from his account from internet & send coins to S from application.
The application connects to internet again & send bitcoins & also B receives a message from application "Coins sent"
Same time S receives a message in his application that coins from an address with B's cell phone number received.
And after 10 minutes or so, both B & S receives message from the application in their cell phone that the transaction is confirmed.
S gives B the flowers & B leaves.
This is my base idea & i think this method will help anyone to use bitcoins with out much knowledge & much worry.
The cell phone don't have bitcoins, addresses & also database.
so, even if the person looses his cell phone he don't have to worry, coz the application is password protected.
he goes to his home & can change/block his cellphone from receiving addresses, bitcoins from his account.
Where is his account stored? I have no idea. May be a site like ewallet, or he accesses remotely his own computer, or he accesses by connecting USB drive which has portable bitcoin client......
The application must use internet to retrieve a valid address that belongs to S, it must able to get the address from the SMS B receives, It must connect to B's wallet to get bitcoins, It sends to bitcoins to S's address. It also then checks the internet bitcoin database that the transaction is confirmed or not & sends msg to both B & S.
The confirmation may be 6 or less.
It is just an rough idea, & more ideas are welcome.
Please pour your ideas & developers please create application, so Bitcoin goes online.
you can also donate me, if you want to donate me.
I'm not going to finish cause that's a lot of B's and S's get it? get it? |
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That's hilarious. Those spikes must be thanksgiving and christmas.
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How about if someone plugs one of these things in then the phone self wipes (obviously backed-up elsewhere) and some cheery tune pops-up for the attacker ... something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULKw8s061ELove it. |
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I think there will be volunteers but we shouldn't and don't have to count on them. A very cool thing to me is that small scale mining operations have lots of advantages over bigger ones. If you already have a room and a gpu or 4 then your cost is essentially electricity. If you are in a cold area some of that is returned to you in heat anyway, but if you have to buy the building specifically for this purpose and pay technicians etc your cost will be well higher. If people like mining for altruistic reasons it will be even harder for big players to survive.
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Damn, if we had a prediction market we would know. I wonder when we'll have a predication market? |
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I think all of these have solutions, but they require work, where bitcoin as it is now is pretty solid (until someone breaks sha256 (which will surely happen before the last million coins is generated)).
Just so no one freaks out. Encryption systems don't break all at once and we can move to a different one when needed. |
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What if you took away all the crimes directly or indirectly connected to drugs? I think the money flow associated with crimes would plummet.
Maybe that's how the gov will crush Bitcoin: Legalize drugs. |
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Not possible. The only way to get a confirmation is to put the transaction in a block in the longest chain. The only way to do that is to put it at the end and this requires using a bit of data from the old latest block. If you 'start early' you'll end up with a new valid version of a really old block that no one will incorporate.
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I liked it. It's down now?
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You have the old address(es) too, it just displays a new one when you ask it too or when you receive (maybe?). You can see them all in the address book under receiving.
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Thanks Mike. It's awesome to learn whole new angles after reading and thinking about Bitcoin for 9 months. It's truly an amazing system.
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I actually read most of that. Even if a game used bitcoin, there'd still be gold farmers because they'd be doing work to gain bitcoin. I've thought about this. It would require a lot of cleverness, but implementing mechanical turk type work inside an MMO and paying bitcoins or in game currency convertible to them would be awesome. It would be best if you had an easy way for players to create the work that needed to be done, they would strive to keep the tasks fun because then they could pay less. |
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got it, gg all  |
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http://silverliberationarmy.com/for those who do not know whats going on. Folks are buying silver to take down the Naked short positions JP Morgan has going on. To take out the banks who have done so much financial trouble in the world I see Bitcoin as a way to do transactions outside of the banking system. So what will the BLA do? That is the question I have myself in what it could do. Getting out of the dollar hurts the whole complex. I'll be very happy when my day-to-day money, bankroll, and savings are all able to be in coins. |
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And keep in mind this is 50% including yourself. You have to match 100% of the honest nodes.
I think it'll be impossible for US gov in one year.
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I am here today to start the BitCoin Liberation Army.
What do you all think?
I am mostly a pacifist. Throwing Bitcoins at people hurts them a lot less than silver rounds. This revolution will work because it doesn't need a single ounce of violence. |
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