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4021  Economy / Economics / Re: How high can bitcoin go in the next 2 years? on: June 11, 2011, 11:35:37 AM
It could go up to 1 million dollars or down to 0.01$.

Is that supposed to be a 95% CI?   Tongue
4022  Economy / Economics / Re: How high can bitcoin go in the next 2 years? on: June 11, 2011, 11:35:04 AM
With 1000 new members joining this board in the last 18 hours you tell me where you think the price of something so limit as bitcoins is going?

1000 in the last 18 hours?  There are 19250 members at time of writing.  The number of users increased by 5%?  Extraordinary.

Don't know about the last 18 hours, but the stats page says over 5k in June so far.
4023  Economy / Economics / Re: Get Rich Quick on: June 11, 2011, 09:41:58 AM
Yeah, the more you can do with them the less they'll be worth. That's been the general trend.  Roll Eyes
Interesting… Why ?

Looks like FreeMoney misread your post by skipping over the second sentence, reading it as "I hope people will start to accept Bitcoins. Which will lead to decrease in value", and then he replied sarcastically.

Then you missed the sarcasm in his reply.

Watching escalating communication failures from the sidelines is so entertaining  Grin

Heh, thanks for clearing that up. I get what dig was saying now.

4024  Economy / Economics / Re: The lack of shorting is a significant barrier on: June 11, 2011, 09:39:22 AM
naked shorts...why would I participate in fraud?

A put is the right to sell something. You can bet against a thing by buying that right, but waiting to buy the thing. You never have to deliver, you never promised to deliver.
4025  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitoption Status Thread on: June 11, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
Right now, API, or PM me. In the next 12 hours, there should be a web interface.

Oh, okay. It's not a big deal. I don't mind the offer I made, just wanted to make a different one and solved that problem by depositing more.
4026  Other / Politics & Society / Re: If an organism fails to sustain.... on: June 11, 2011, 09:13:13 AM
If an organism fails to sustain either through will or misfortune, should others be enslaved to sustain it?

it depends.  how valuable is that organism... to you?

is the organism your mother?

would you beat a man into submission to bring her water if she were thirsty?

is the organism your brother?

a cousin that you don't particularly care for?

a soldier of your country during war-time?

a fellow citizen during war-time?

either... during peace-time?

some human from anywhere who has sustained or defended you?

do you posit a relationship between debt and altruism?  is there one?

are we moochers in need, but bankrupt in debt?

i dunno.  do you?

If it is valuable to you why would you need to be enslaved to help it?!

He didn't ask if you would or should, just if enslavement is appropriate.

Anyone who doesn't answer no needs to be at my slave camp at 5am tomorrow.
4027  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin price nosediving -- sell all my bitcoins? on: June 11, 2011, 08:41:45 AM
i am little afraid, shall i sell now before the price falls below 20 or even 10?

Sell low is the advice I always hear.
4028  Economy / Economics / Re: Get Rich Quick on: June 11, 2011, 08:35:55 AM
Will BTC work as a currency, to buy goods and services?
I hope people will start to accept bitcoins.

This is curcial because otherwise, people will just loose any interest in bitcoins and sell them, leaving with a negative opinion.

Which will lead to decrease in value.

Yeah, the more you can do with them the less they'll be worth. That's been the general trend.  Roll Eyes
4029  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Still not really understanding the wallet on: June 11, 2011, 08:31:42 AM
It needs to be called wallet.dat. It cannot be encrypted. 
4030  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Who pays transaction fees on: June 11, 2011, 07:54:27 AM
The fee will go down. It's left over from when .01 was trivial to block spam. For some reason the drop needed to be phased in.

Remember that there is no Bitcoin company and you are free to get software that communicates with others any way you can. Eventually people will be commissioning custom clients I'm sure.
4031  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Lost some Bitcoins, what did I do wrong? on: June 11, 2011, 07:09:32 AM
I don't get it. Shouldn't 6 have done nothing at all? What were you hoping to do?
4032  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How come 60% of 15_year_old_blonde's posts start with "How Come"? on: June 11, 2011, 06:54:39 AM
Maybe it's a curious little girl?
4033  Economy / Marketplace / Re: anybody willing to donate to me i just got beat on: June 11, 2011, 06:45:10 AM
somebody with a good rep on a dfferent website came to me wanting to buy btc.  he said i had to send frst tho.  i trusted him because of this perfect rep, everyone sad that he was a pleasure to deal with.  i isent him the btc, nothing.  i asked him what was going on, he said he didnt recieve anything.  it wasnt comfirmed at this point so i figured when it gets confrmed  i will get my money.  it gets confirmed and still nothing.  this was my rent money.  i have a family.  i know i shouldnt have put my family at risk like that but i did.  please help me.  if i eventually get this money anybody that sent me btc will get them back right away.  the total was 3 btc for 75.  here is the transaction http://blockexplorer.com/address/1JNf7wpUaQZukFzY4yeNDxuedK6XgtnKWY

my acct is 1M1AjjCUnnG2Te8w5Ca4ibcREciZSBMzEg

somebody please help.  the absolute latest i can gve rent is the day after tomarrow.  i may be able to squeeze another day.  somebody please by the grace of god help.

He's buying his first coins from you correct? He doesn't see them because he doesn't have all the blocks yet, if it's been a while maybe he is having trouble finding good connections. If you trusted him before there is a strong chance he'll see it and pay you. Calm down.
4034  Economy / Economics / Re: Are you going to trade hill instead of mtgox? on: June 11, 2011, 06:40:59 AM
Why would I choose someone who wasn't my wife or I to get a % of my action? Because someone spammed their code at me?

If you trade $100,000, your referrer gets $50. Is it really that big of a deal?

Affiliate programs can be useful, but not how this one was executed at all. This results in a bunch of doofuses advertising the same thing in the same place to people who 100% would hear about it anyway. They add zero value. On top of that it's essentially free for anyone who cares to get their own referral money.

I stopped making market a while back, but $100k doesn't take that long when you constantly take both sides.
4035  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Bitcoin started from zero? on: June 11, 2011, 05:16:05 AM
Just to make an interesting point: if Bitcoins did not have some initial value, no one would have spent the resources to mine them. So everyone who says Bitcoins are worthless are clearly wrong.

Maybe bitcoins are worthless to them, but I'll gladly give you a $10 bill for one. They have value to me.
4036  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: New Bitcoin Forum! BitcoinForums.net on: June 11, 2011, 03:51:46 AM
In my opinion, only offering a new forum software won't be enough to attract people. Its personality has to be very different from this forum. For example, quite a few people have been complaining about the high noise of this forum so you might get a good market share if you strongly discourage newbies across the whole board, or even go as far as only letting known faces in.

I wouldn't be interested in it, in that case. How did all the known faces arrive on the scene without ever being a newbie?


A section full of only new ideas would be awesome. You can't get that if you let newbies in because they haven't been caught up on all the ideas. 'All' is an exaggeration, but you get the point.
4037  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC gone / Transaction History gone at MtGox on: June 11, 2011, 03:48:32 AM
if it were just coins missing out of your wallet and not missing transaction history at mt gox i'd say you probably had your wallet stollen.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.


TROLL
4038  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Something to think about on: June 11, 2011, 03:20:32 AM
Waterboarding.
4039  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitoption.org -- ESCROWED LIVE Bitcoin Options Trading on: June 11, 2011, 02:55:33 AM
Yep, congrats. We passed one hundred registered logins today.


As a side note, I'm seeing some asks in the $50 US range. This doesn't make sense; one contract = 1 BTC. You might as well just buy the BTC if the ask is over market.

Bitcoin has high carrying costs, didn't you know?
4040  Economy / Economics / Re: Are you going to trade hill instead of mtgox? on: June 11, 2011, 02:48:54 AM
More criticism.

They naively followed MtGox terrible BTC deposit method and even made it worse. Click to get an address and click a few more times to actually see it?

It's easy to do it right:

User asks for an address to pay to.
You give it to them with a message about how long it will be good for.
Listen for payments to that address.
Credit any payments until it expires.

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