Futurebit Moonlander (I think I got the full name right) is a USB Scrypt miner using the Alcheminer chip. It's advertised on the forums here somewhere.

 Don't think anything else is available at this time other than older, less efficient USED gear, and MAYBE a pre-order "does it really exist at all?" X11 stick miner.

The block reward will be cut in half. Thus the term "halfing".

 If the hashrate of the network didn't change, that would cut the gross income in half of ALL miners.

 In all probability, some folks running older and no-longer-profitable miners will shut them down, and the network hashrate will see a fairly noticeable drop - but folks buying newer miners, large mining farms upgrading miners, and such will probably kick the hashrate right back up again in a few months at most, possibly less than one month.



 The question of profitability has many variables - cost of electric being a PRIMARY one, if your electric is cheap enough miners like the S7/Avalonn6/BEleven will still be profitable even if the hashrate didn't drop, but their profit will drop a LOT. Miners of the S5/SP20E and older generations will pretty much have to have FREE electricity to still be able to run at a profit. Anything newer will probably be fairly profitable, as it SHOULD be more efficient than the S7 generation by a fair bit.


 The plus side of the upcomming "full custom 14/16nm" generation is that it will have achieved State of the Art on semiconductor manufacturing, so there won't be any major efficiency upgrades for probably 3-5 YEARS - it'll be the first generation where a RoI measured in years is POSSIBLE for Bitcoin miners. This will still leave the issue of "cheap enough electric to make a profit" though....

You're also comparing CHIP efficiency to MINER efficiency.
The actual MINER is specified at .26W/GH

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1340363.0

The BM1385 in the S7 is CAPABLE of getting down to something like .15w/GH on a CHIP level - but an actual miner will never see that due to the power needs for the bucks/power distribution, the controller electronics, the mining comp to RUN it, the FANS, etc....

The efficiency of the S7 also varies with the batch - the more recent lower chip count batches are LESS efficient than some of the early batches, as they're running fewer chips per string = higher operating voltage = lower efficiency (but higher hashrate capability abet at higher power use and heat level).

Claymore's dual miner seems, by most reports, to be a bit less efficient at Ethereum mining - though the Dcred (sp?) mining income might make up for that.

 You really don't have a lot of options though - most folks seem to be using the Genoil miner, qtminer, or the Claymore dual miner - there's only one other option I know about but it seems to have been not worked on for a while and seems to be getting ignored for being slower than anything else.


 Doesn't seem to be much hashrate difference between any of them, and some of the highest reported hashrates are outdated due to the growth in the DAG file making EVERYTHING slower over time.


 Definitely go with 3+ Gig ram on the cards, if possibly - I've got some 2 Gig NVidea cards that are still working, but my 7870 2Gig is NOT able to mine at all at this point for some reason.
 (Edit - it's working now, figured out I needed more SYSTEM ram for some reason in that machine - but running at 12.something even overclocked a lot, I suspect the figures posted in that database in the 14-16 Mh range are from much earlier days when the DAG was smaller and everything was faster. On the other hand, I already HAD the card so whatever I make with it less electric cost is PURE PROFIT).

I'm currently trying to play around with driver options, but as a long-time Slackware user I am finding Ubuntu and especially bleeding GRUB to be a major pain - but the only miner packages available to me are Ubuntu-specific, as I CAN NOT ACCESS GITHUB NO MATTER WHAT I HAVE TRIED to get access to the bloody source code or anything other than qtminer or Windows64-specific compiled versions of the other stuff.

It's a risk, but the GPU rig will retain SOME inherent value for a while, and there are other things you can do with it in the meanwhile.

qtminer (can get it from ethermine pool site) has 2 Ubuntu-specific packages available, one for 14.04 (which I'm currently using on one of my 2 multi-GTX rigs) and one for 15.10 I think (might be for 15.04, I forget offhand as I couldn't find a good place to download Xubuntu anywhere other than 14.04 and the current 16.4 THAT BREAKS PROPRIATARY DRIVERS NEEDED TO MINE WITH).

 Ethereum isn't pointless on NVidia cards - my GTX950s are actually pretty competative with AMD comparable cards, though the GTX960s aren't as much so - but it's still profitable on them for the time being.

 If your electric is VERY cheap, X11 can still be mined for a profit on an efficient setup.

Probably Dash or one of the other X11 coins, as the GTX 750 Ti doesn't have enough RAM to mine Ethereum.

I was using less than 10% of my 10 Gig cap on mining, running 5 A2 Terminators, 5 S5s and a SP20.

 Seems like most miners for SHA256 or Scrypt use quite a bit less than 1K/s of data, when I've bothered looking at data usage with available LINUX tools.

The B-Eleven may or may not have met it's early specs - hard to tell when there have been almost none seen in public if any at all, and the only info we have about the actual final hardware is a few pictures.

 They never announced ground-breaking specs for it though, even the EARLY specs were very close to the specs on the S7/BM1385 - and there is no indication that they did NOT meet or achieve very close to those specs (other than the 3/5/10TH miner part which DOES appear to have changed) on the actual miner.


 The LK1402 is what's going to make things interesting though, if they can achieve THOSE specs or very very close in the timeframe they're talking about - *IF* they actually start selling the things to someone other than "the big farms" and using them internally.

No way anyone would bother making an ASIC for Ethereum, it will go PoS long before any REAL ASIC for it could get developed and built and almost nobody would bother buying any ASIC if they actually DID show up.

OP needs to find some better pictures to "borrow" too, both of those "miners" were real - YEARS ago - to mine other algorythms with.

 One minor quibble - that 60 Mh/s A2-based unit was Innosilicon, not LKetc - though Innosilicon seems to have "borrowed" the design of the LKetc "Dragon" A1-based miners (or they might have been co-developed) when the Innosilicon "Terminator" miners were being built.
 LKetc DID use Innosilicon A1 mining chips in their Dragon miners, definitely a link in there of some sort....

2 *YEARS* since the original poster said anything in this thread, and people are asking "is this a scam"?

 LAME.

 Dang necromancers keep ressurecting dead threads started by scammers...... 8-(

Probably hiding from the lawyers of all the folks their blatant obvious scam ripped off.
I wish people would let this thead DIE.

I hope Avalon has been working on a 16nm chip longer than a month or two, or they're going to be VERY late to market with it.

 The announcement they made that they weren't GOING to work on one for a while as of the release of the A6 was a very bad sign for their timing......

Opinions I've seen on MSI were mostly positive. I have no personal experience with them though.
Sapphire makes good cards, both by rep and my own experience with them.
EVGA - seems to be making a bit of a push lately into video cards, I've got a few I'm trying out that were on a Real Good Sale price when I got them, we'll see how they work.


 After Ethereum profits drop too low, it'll be time to look at other options - which is why I'm going NVIDIA right now over my long-prefered AMD, seems like most of the current options either prefer NVIDIA (Ethereum and RC5-72 being noteable exceptions, but Maxwell cards are competative on a hash/watt basis in Ethereum even when they lose on hash/$ somewhat) or it's more-or-less a tossup.



 Scary thing - I just noticed I'm #4 or #5 (depending on the day) on hashrate on my Litecoin mining pool.....

If your electric cost at that farm is low, it should be profitable for a while longer on X11 - but Ethereum seems to be the most profitable coin for AMD-based vidcards right now.

Gigabyte cards tend to be good for mining as well, though I have a small personal preference for Sapphire over Gigabyte and quite a bit over MSI.

 Avoid HIS in general - too many of their cards use cheap die-fast fans, though the IceQ model blowers seem to be fairly good quality.
 Says a lot that Newegg STOPPED CARRYING HIS in any way shape or form, not to mention my own personal issues with EVERY card of theirs I've ever bought due to crap fans failing except the IceQ (I thought I had problems with it, but turns out the PS I was trying to use it on was flaky - it's working FINE now at 1200Mhz mining Ethereum while powered by one of my X1250s).

 True for dhcp, for static IP they do in fact work on 10.x.x.x

Up-front cost of Solar, especially when you need power 24/7, is STILL very very high vs. just buying power.
 Ditto Wind power, which is actually CHEAPER than solar per watt and you can generally get away with less battery since the wind tends to blow any time of day or night.

 Both are very dependent on your location, though - Solar works a lot better in AZ or Southern Cal than in Iowa, but wind here generally blows most of AZ and large parts of California away (the Cajon and Tehachapi (sp?) passes being noteable exceptions).


 
 They've both made major strides in getting more competative - but they STILL need subsidies to get close, and they STILL get blown away by Hydropower where that's available (they're getting semi-close to Coal and Natural Gas though, especially given the incredible levels of regulation and REQUIRED retro-fit on most coal plants the EPA has forced on them over the last 20ish years).

0.075/KWH is semi-cheap, but not VERY VERY cheap. You can do a lot better even in certain parts of the US, and no worries about (relative) political instability and "foreign intruders" type stuff.

 Up side, parts of what is now Indonesia were dominated by the British long enough there's a significant percentage of English speaking folks there.

 There is no WIndows-based system that is even in the same ballpark as current or even 1-2 generations old ASIC miners for Bitcoin.

 The only question on using CPU or GPU hardware to mine Bitcoin is "how much do you want to LOSE" - even with free electric, your system will DIE before it pays for itself.