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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: A4 Dominator, the 14nm LTC ASIC/Miners, sample tested and open for pre-order
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on: October 12, 2016, 10:59:41 PM
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With gen trakin 3rd party firmware I get 300mh at 1225 watts so hardly that big a diff at 280mh at 1100 watts .......big whoop.....my Titans can run just fine with
Given the A4 specs a "1000 watt power supply", which will probably be pulling somewhat less than that in actual usage, where the HELL are you comming up with that 1100 watt claim? Yes, the Titans are fairly close on efficiency - they'll probably stay profitable for the forseable future unless you have REAL high electric rates - but they're not nearly as close on efficiency as you seem to think, *AND* their track record of many dead cubes makes their reliability very suspect while the A2 was rock solid for almost EVERYONE that ever used one. I can see a day, probably in the next 2 years likely less, when the A2 becomed non-profitable at 3c/KWH electric and the Scrypt miner market becomes basically a 2 horse race betwen the A4 and Titan - but those Titans that are still running by then will definitely be the LAGGING horse in the race.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: need advice on long term mining
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on: October 11, 2016, 07:19:37 AM
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From what some people said to me, a card uses 7 Gb of bandwith per month. Also, do note that rigs might corrupt their DAG, so keeping a software to control them at distance is a good thing.
More like 7 MB a month or less - probably less. I used to have a farm of 5 A2 Innosilicon Terminators, about 12 cards (mixed, HD7850 up to R9 290s) worth of Ethereum miners, and rarely used more than 100 MB in a day for mining AND everything else I did on that connection (downloading patches for certain games WOULD drive the usage way up for a day).
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Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Real or BS? THMINERS.COM realeases new 60TH Bitcoin and 1200MH Litecoin miner.
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on: October 11, 2016, 07:02:51 AM
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Canaan is selling A6's and are soon to be selling A7's to the public.
Bitfury and BW.com are only selling miners to industrial scale customers and they are also mining themselves. Innosilicon A4 is an altcoin miner. If we add altcoin miners into this then there is also Baikal Mini miner (X11), which I have four pcs. incoming.
I asked BW.com about the public release and at first it seemed like they were going to do it (my 1st e-mail conversation with them). Then they suddenly cancelled and continued on the big scale road (my 2nd e-mail conversation much later after the first one).
I'd forgotten about the Baikal - don't know if the other 2 X11 ASIC are still selling or not at this point, though I suspect that original one isn't as it's been blown out of the market so badly since. And yes, it would take about 6 KW to run a 60TH miner with the stated efficiency of their bitcoin miner. Not impossible - Spondoolies DID announce that SP50 with *10* or some such PS in it and may have actually built a few for private data hall(s) somewhere before they died - but NOT likely at all in a 4u form factor.
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Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: thminers probably a scam!
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on: October 09, 2016, 11:53:46 PM
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There is now pretty much only two companies that sell real miners to the public. Bitmain and Canaan Creative.
Actually, just Bitmain - though Canaan has announced they're working on a next-gen miner, and the Innosilicon A4 should be shipping real soon (dunno what happened to the A3 though, have heard NOTHING about that for months). In theory, BitFury and BW.com (LKEtc and co) could do so but they seem to be sticking with sales to "industrial" scale miners.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Stick miners for cpu mining? Possible?
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on: October 09, 2016, 08:21:43 AM
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Those "low cost processors" STILL eat power - and have very poor performance per watt vs. ASIC (where available). They might be competative on a per-watt basis vs conventional CPUs, but there doesn't seem to be enough of a market to JUST add on a "CPU + RAM" to make the things viable - and you ARE going to need the RAM to be able to mine with them, at which point any potential cost savings drops to near nothing on a hash/$ and hash/watt basis vs existing multi-core server CPUs on existing motherboards.
It's going to get worse once AMD starts releasing "Zen" CPUs with 16+ cores per CPU package/chip late this year or early next year.
The idea is there would be a micro computer controller, these usually carry 2-4gb of ram, the idea is these would each increase the hashrate per stick. So say you have a $70 windows mini pc as the controller and a powered usb hub with the usb sticks. A row of asic sticks would hopefully allow you to be competitive on a $/Hashrate level. The idea isn't exactly for now it is for the future and zen, zen is nothing in the cpu world. It already is only rumored to compete with i5's not i7's, a 16 thread 8 core cpu isn't as impressive as it used to be. ASIC USB sticks are a lot more efficient though - and none of THEM are profitable any more except the Moonlander and possibly the Gekko *IF* your electric is cheap enough.
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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Local Electricty company shut me down for mining.
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on: October 08, 2016, 10:54:36 PM
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I can assure all of you that the letter was very real.
The farm will be getting ran into the ground. Will post results when
A) Electricity gets shut off
B) Get raided for 2nd time.
shout out to all the haters and nay-sayers. You are what makes this community great.
There is NO BLOODY WAY you "got raided" for having high power consumption. I don't care how much you CLAIM about "there is nothing else going on", you got raided for SOME OTHER REASON. Chelan PUD doesn't hate bitcoin miners, the PUD just hates the effects on their infrastructure and the reduction in revenues 'cause they have less "spare" capasity left over to sell for much higher rates that drops their revenue due to the large number of large Bitcoin-related farms that have moved into the area or started up in the area over the last 6 years or so. This is not to say that individual members of the PUD and individuals in the area aren't clueless about bitcoin.... Next time they whine about it only being used for drugs, try pointing out that large retailers like Amazon and Newegg (and I believe I remember seeing *WALMART* is now accepting Bitcoin as a payment option on their website) accept Bitcoin payments. Not exactly "drug specific" there. Can also point out that the IRS considers Bitcoin legitimate and has made a ruling on it for tax purposes.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NVIDIA 750Ti Help
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on: October 08, 2016, 10:30:43 PM
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A 2GB 750 ti is ballpark a 210 h/s Monero card out of the box (depending on model) - at it's power consumption, that makes it very efficient (though overall SYSTEM power consumption isn't good). IIRC the top-end cards are generating less than 1kh/s on Monero (possibly exception for some of the dual-GPU type cards).
It's about a 3 Mh/s card as of a month ago on Ethereum, which is rather poor for the cost of the card and it's power usage. Even going with the same-generation GTX 950 jumps the Ethereum hashrate up to about 10MH/s out of the box for VERY little more money.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CPU supportable with my rig
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on: October 08, 2016, 10:24:22 PM
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I assume you are going to mine an altcoin as mining Bitcoin with a computer is outdated by years This IS the "altcoin mining" forum. 8-P To the OP - foutside of CPU-specific coins, the CPU has pretty much zero effect on mining speed - I've got one machine on Ethereum running triple R9 290 GPUs with a Sempron 145 (older SLOWish single-core) without issues. Videocard - depends on what you are mining on. NVidia usually is competative on production per watt, but tends to cost more so production per $ is lower, there are a few exceptions though and this generalization gets changes to the specific details as mining software changed, mining coin values and difficulty changes, and newer cards show up.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Stick miners for cpu mining? Possible?
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on: October 08, 2016, 10:12:43 PM
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Those "low cost processors" STILL eat power - and have very poor performance per watt vs. ASIC (where available). They might be competative on a per-watt basis vs conventional CPUs, but there doesn't seem to be enough of a market to JUST add on a "CPU + RAM" to make the things viable - and you ARE going to need the RAM to be able to mine with them, at which point any potential cost savings drops to near nothing on a hash/$ and hash/watt basis vs existing multi-core server CPUs on existing motherboards.
It's going to get worse once AMD starts releasing "Zen" CPUs with 16+ cores per CPU package/chip late this year or early next year.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ESX servers?
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on: October 07, 2016, 06:58:39 AM
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Trying to mine *BITCOIN* on a CPU is a waste of time, electric, heat, and wear and tear on any CPU. You'll be lucky to make *pennies a year* while you pay *dollars a week* to run the things.
Altcoins are in a few cases different, go check out the altcoin mining threads.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU Mining w/ NVidia
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on: October 07, 2016, 06:51:43 AM
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Nvidia cards, with the exception of the 10xx series have problems mining ETH on Windows. When I did it, I needed to use an older driver and then a miner compiled for CUDA 6.5 and then it will work. I don't know what your hashrate would be, but I'm sure a lot better than what you're getting now. I suggest you read through this thread- https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/2227/cuda-miner/ which details Genoil's CUDA miner for ethereum, there's also a thread right here on this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368785.0I was getting about 14mh/s with a GTX 760 but this was months ago so I'm sure it's lower now. The issues were with mining on Windows 10. Windows 7 has never had these issues. With that said, mining on LINUX is a lot more stable.
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