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4661  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash EQM Zcash NVIDIA optimized miner [GTX 970 50 Sol/s] on: November 15, 2016, 04:47:34 AM

I run a GTX 960 OC-II / i5 in my desktop rig and I notice the combination of the lappy's i7 + 950m comes in at only 3-4 Sol/s less, on average, over 8-10 hours. Yet, the 960 does it's job with much more ease. (I usually keep my RX480 off the books unless on a final payout run and need to get some OC'd U/V'd daggerhash shares done.


 GTX 950 vs GTX 960 (on actual cards) show almost identical hashrates for ZEC and ETH - it's the memory system that's the limit, and they both have the same memory system.

 There is stuff the 960 is noticeably better on vs. the 950, but ZEC and ETH were specifically designed as "ASIC resistant" through heavy usage of large amounts of memory on the GPU itself.

 The really sad part - my (last year purchase) $200 R9 290s despite being about 3 generations older and a LOT lower clocks do better ETH hashrate than my $400 GTX 1070s, and by report a LOT better ZEC sol/s.

 There's a serious advantage sometimes to a wider memory bus.
4662  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: November 15, 2016, 04:42:46 AM
Curecoin drop to 1 cent = not much interest in it hanging around, as it's iffy if it can be profitable at ALL at that point.

 It bottomed out at a bit under 3 cents for a long time, that was profitable with VERY low cost electric and a well-optimised rig but not hugely so - but foldingcoin was earning MORE than curecoin in that timeframe once you could get foldingcoin working.


 EVGA is seeing some drop this week, though some folks seems to have not bothered moving to "other stuff" after the Time Zone Challenge so they're a bit higher than they were at the month before that challenge. We're back down quite a bit from our peak, but still a good bit higher than 2 months ago when Curecoin was under 3 cents - and both ZCash and ETH are dropping in profitability so we'll probably start seeing a few folks migrating back over here (I'm starting to shift rigs, and have parts on the way from NewEgg for a new rig build that will go straight to folding).

4663  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new XMR+ ETH thread builds info and other stuff thoughts and photos included. on: November 15, 2016, 04:37:15 AM
I'm wondering why you are all rushing to mine ZCash. It find it less profitable than Ethereum. Moreover Flypool is abosultely not giving me what I should get.

 I was having generally no issues with flypool when I was running Zcash - they had a couple of stat dropouts but the actual earnings were still there, after the first couple days when ALL of the pools seemed to be having "teething pain" issues.


 I'm not "rushing to mine ZCash" any more though, since for *my* setup at this point Ethereum is more profitable (and I'm starting to shift some rigs out of ETH as profitiability on IT is starting to drop again).

 I do keep crunching the numbers though, just in case.


 I suspect some folks expect ZCash to have at least one more spike fairly soon, and are trying to mine to have lots on hand if that happens - or they expect the price to rise long-term.


4664  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new XMR+ ETH thread builds info and other stuff thoughts and photos included. on: November 15, 2016, 04:32:46 AM
over night results using -i 2

best rig  at 119H/s is the asus z170a using an i5 6500t

worst rig at 108H/s is the biostar z170a using an i3 6300t

the asrock h81 is at 113 H/s using an intel i5 4570s

the asrockz170 extreme 3 is at 115 H/s using an i7 6700t


What does it all mean? I suspect to run at -i 2  you need an i5  .

I also have virtual memory set at 32000-64000 on all rigs.


 Very odd results given that the i7 6700t is near-identical clocks to the i5-6500t and has a LOT bigger on-chip cache, so should be punching out it's processing faster.

 Probably other factors at work too - have you considered swapping parts around in testing?
4665  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Avalon 7 on: November 15, 2016, 04:26:16 AM
 Downclocking by itself has almost no effect on efficiency.

 Undervolting (where it works) is where the efficiency gains happen, but usually requires downclocking for the item to work at all when undervolted quite a bit.
4666  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon A7 announced on: November 15, 2016, 04:20:00 AM
order here but you may need to make account to see the shop link i didn't see it till  i login my account Ive  had for a while .


https://canaan.io/shop/

 You do have to have an account to see the "shop" link.

 I'm really hoping these can be "dialed in" for better efficiency, might not be critical right now but as diff climbs it'll get important.

 I suppose that could be the function of the "741" if/when it actually shows up though, to be the "more efficient brother".

4667  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A4 Dominator Mining ---- anybody else have any of these? on: November 15, 2016, 04:16:33 AM
where i live power is an obscenely low price, 0.079 cents per Watt hour.

 Low but not obscenely low. When I was in Iowa I was paying a bit less than that 9 months out of the year, 14ish the other 3 summer months, and I moved 1800ish miles cross-country because I classed the overall power rate as too high - I'm under 5c/kwh now and looking to move in the next few months to one of the adjacent counties where I can get under 3c


 Even now my power bill runs about $400/month - but that's a lot more than a few A4 units mining away (you're making more in LTC than I am, but I'm making a LOT more in other coins and overall).



WOW!!! that is low. I am tennessee where we have TVA and their hydroelectric power generations. it's by far way cheaper than any of the other nearby areas here on the east coast. in atlanta its like 14 to 17 cents during peak power times. and 12 off peak hours. but the main advantage to chattanooga, TN is that we have gigabit internet to all the residential houses over fiber optic, only 70bucks a month. and for 200/month you can get 10gb/s internet. since i do online day trading as my primary source of income this is awesome speeds. fastest in the US and as far as i can tell about 3rd fastest in the world. blows my mind. Litecoin mining is the only one i do as of right now, im not sure if ill get into any of the others. should take me about 5 to 6 months to see a breakeven ROI for the setup i have. so far I am well on track for that, maybe even sooner.   

 We don't have gigabit, but the local PUD does have a fiber-optic network and we have 100Megabit access, runs more like $50.
 I suspect they COULD set up to do gigabit but just haven't bothered.

 The other two adjacent counties (with the under 3c rates) have similar setups - and all 3 counties are bug into hydropower so that the PUDs can subsidise local rates by sellling off the excess output at quite a bit higher rates to larger utilities elsewhere (like Sea/Tac and some even into California).

4668  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash EQM Zcash NVIDIA optimized miner [GTX 970 50 Sol/s] on: November 13, 2016, 11:39:11 PM
There are very few mining algorytmns where NVidia is competative with AMD - and the one ZCash uses isn't one of them, except perhaps on a hash/watt basis (like ETH/ETC).

 I have a bunch of 1070-based rigs but they're not intended long-term for ZEC or ETH mining, they're just doing it right now to help pay for their cost to build as those coins are a bit more profitable RIGHT NOW than what I built the rigs for.

4669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon A4 Dominator Mining ---- anybody else have any of these? on: November 13, 2016, 11:30:55 PM
where i live power is an obscenely low price, 0.079 cents per Watt hour.

 Low but not obscenely low. When I was in Iowa I was paying a bit less than that 9 months out of the year, 14ish the other 3 summer months, and I moved 1800ish miles cross-country because I classed the overall power rate as too high - I'm under 5c/kwh now and looking to move in the next few months to one of the adjacent counties where I can get under 3c


 Even now my power bill runs about $400/month - but that's a lot more than a few A4 units mining away (you're making more in LTC than I am, but I'm making a LOT more in other coins and overall).

4670  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience is now dabbling with 16nm ASICs for new designs on: November 13, 2016, 11:18:28 PM
As I recall, all of the fabs for the 14/16nm node at this point are either TSMC in Taiwan, or Global Founderies in New York State (ex-IBM fabs) or Taiwan.

 I am NOT sure where Intel is doing foundry work though, and I might have missed a couple somewhere or some may have come online I don't know about since the last time I checked.

4671  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new XMR+ ETH thread builds info and other stuff thoughts and photos included. on: November 13, 2016, 11:15:53 PM


Electric Cost = $0.12 cents per KW



 12 c / kwh is getting into *OUCH* range on electric cost.

 The entire reason I moved last summer was that I considered 7.5-8c/kwh 9 months 14plus the other 3 months was way too high.


I'm personnally mining at 0,18$/kWh, and that's still profitable. Of course says goodbye to 290 and such, but with RX 470, a little with R9 380 and 1070, I find a way to be profitable.

My 2 test rigs are 290s and 370s -- the 290s are really power hungry just like the 390s. The 370s uses very little power.


 My "big rig" for ETH is a triple R9 290 rig - flashing them with a bios from "TheStilt" didn't help much on the power draw so much as it made them run a LOT cooler, while at the same time enamled them to overclock a lot for about the SAME power draw, which has helped a ton on their profitability.

 I'm also picky about power supplies - not going to knock the EVGA Supernova line as I've got a couple of the 1300 G2 models and they've been solid to date, but I've had a long-standing preference for SeaSonic (especially the X-line) due to proven long-term reliability, so most of my recent rigs have been built with the X-850 or some of the "left over" X-1250 units that used to power my S5s and SP20E (2 of the X1250s ended up in A2 110Mh units).


 Anti-virus isn't critical on a mining-specific rig as long as it's behind a REAL firewall (Windows-based firewalls need not apply, as Windows itself is so massively vulnerable) as you're not downloading from "unknown" sites or browsing on a mining rig.
 Just make sure to scan the initial download before the first install, then keep the scanned file on a protected machine and download it from THERE on further installations.



4672  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: A4 Dominator - Pre-Order Group Buy - 280mh, roughly 1000w, $1800 + shipping on: November 13, 2016, 09:20:53 AM

Rummor has it, the software will be open sorced

 Innosilicon stated that it would be - but no specific timeframe of when.

 Sooner would be better, and it would be nice if the A2 software got open-sourced at the same time.

I thought a2 was open? With custom sd card images?

 Reverse engineered, not open sourced.

4673  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ETH ASIC Legit? on: November 13, 2016, 01:55:46 AM
ETH isn't supposed to be PoW long enough for ANY sane ASIC maker to make an ASIC for ETH.

 Also, an ASIC would just ignite a hashrate war, with existing miners getting the shaft rapidly and only the EARLY "well heeled" folks that can afford to buy a bunch of the ASICs early being likely to even have a *PRAYER* of achieving ROI if one were TO appear.


 GPU mining on ETH (and now on ZEC too) is MORE profitable by any measure for pretty much everyone the last few months than any ASIC for ANY coin has been in that timeframe.


 Don't expect the "3-4 month ROI" of early cryptocoin days - way too many folks chasing way too few coin and way too widespread of knowlage that cryptocoin mining exists and can make money to ever see THAT again barring very short-term "early miner" stuff like the insane pricing on ZEC the first day.

4674  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon A7 announced on: November 13, 2016, 01:43:46 AM
At this time, Caanan is the only place to order the A721.

 That will probably change in a month or less as resellers start getting ahold of some to sell (for more of course).

4675  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new XMR+ ETH thread builds info and other stuff thoughts and photos included. on: November 13, 2016, 01:41:39 AM


Electric Cost = $0.12 cents per KW



 12 c / kwh is getting into *OUCH* range on electric cost.

 The entire reason I moved last summer was that I considered 7.5-8c/kwh 9 months 14plus the other 3 months was way too high.


 ETH is probably getting hammered because of the "2'nd and 3'd hard fork" issue, which are happening to cure the long-running issue with attacks overloading the network but some folks think any fork is a bad thing.

 Even with that, *for me* ETH has been more profitable the last few days, abet it's close.

 My electricity cost is basically "fixed" right now, but I'm in a rather odd situation for at least the next few months - but even if it wasn't, my electric cost is low enough I doubt that the power savings ZEC has would make up for the lower income *IN MY CASE*


 Don't take anyone's word for it, crunch the numbers yourself because they DO vary.
4676  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: A4 Dominator - Pre-Order Group Buy - 280mh, roughly 1000w, $1800 + shipping on: November 13, 2016, 01:33:25 AM

Rummor has it, the software will be open sorced

 Innosilicon stated that it would be - but no specific timeframe of when.

 Sooner would be better, and it would be nice if the A2 software got open-sourced at the same time.
4677  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Hacked Modified Memory Strap BIOS Database for ZEC MINING! on: November 12, 2016, 06:11:50 AM
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2XVfIhkHZlfcVR0QzhlQlhJYTA

 Not my work, I think this is the link I found last year to download them from.
4678  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v4.0 on: November 12, 2016, 06:07:43 AM
My triple R9 290 rig soaks a little over 1000 watts, I figure 320 or a bit over per card, on ETH - that's with a mid-level BIOS flashed out of TheStilt's line, and at 1100/1250 settings.

 Haven't tried it on ZEC yet.

4679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My new XMR+ ETH thread builds info and other stuff thoughts and photos included. on: November 12, 2016, 06:04:57 AM


i have 900sol/s going into flypool sometimes it goes from 770-1ksol/s it bounces around.. the pool is still in alpha so it isnt going to be a solid set number like on the ether pool they have..


 All pools all miners will see variance due to luck in finding shares - I routinely see 20-30% variation on their ETH pool with rare bigger spikes up or down.

 If your LONG term average is close to your local numbers, nothing to worry about.


 I've never been impressed with PowerColor cards, the few I've had never were good at overclocking or long-term reliability even when NOT overclocked.
 I've gotten to the point of just ignoring the company entirely.
4680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Protein Folding Research based Proof of Work on: November 12, 2016, 05:59:39 AM
Stats are back up. Gonna be curious to see if EVGA drops back down again now that their 2016" Time Zone Challenge" is over, and I wonder how many Curecoin folks wandered over there to do that (I didn't hear about it 'till just now, unfortunately).

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