Very interesting project. Joined to bounty. Hope this i not too late  Crowdsale ll be 1 mounth? Token sale starts tomorrow, August 31, 2017. Check their website. Hope i can get in because i got a feeling it will reach its goal fast. Looking at how fast the pre-sale filled, some big guys are backing this which is a good sign. |
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As a newbie, im doing research in different ICOs and coins, to invest in. There is so many to choose from :s
I read the whitepaper of REAL and please let me know if im correct about this; the money collected by ICO will be used to invest in real estate, and the profits will be returned to the investers in Ether?
I think this is a correct assumption. So it looks like we are investing into a real a state buseniss? How do we avoid the risk of money being locked for years in real a state? If we cash out, can we do this with REAL? How will the value of a property be determined? Or do we sell tokens on an exchange, basically letting the market decide how much the portfolio of REAL is worth As i understand it you're real tokens aren't locked once you invest them into a property (correct me if i'm wrong). So you can withdraw them at any time. The value of the property will be done by official appraisal and on the platform you can see that value in REAL tokens. See the video and demonstration here: https://youtu.be/TIgN4QJO_Kc?t=57 |
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49 460 ETH raised right now. Soft cap almost finished. What's next? Pause? or going raise hard cap now? Ico till 29 september?
A hidden cap between 50k and 200k will be declared. Bonus to the one who reaches hidden cap. After the hidden cap is reached - ICO will finish. Unslod tokens wil be burnt. Remember please, how much tokens for sale in total? You must sell all tokens? or it does not matter for hard cap? The initial amount for sale was 600 mil KC. But we will declare the hidden cap between 50k and 200k ETH. All unsold tokens will be burnt ok, I understand its a right decision, unsold tokens must be burnt in anyway. This is fair to investors. best wishes in your raise Intresting that they have a hidden cap. But i do agree that it is the right decision. |
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Does anybody know if there is a soft/hard cap? Despite some of the incidents, i'd like to congratulate the team on raising a lot already!
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After seeing the demo of the platform i have a question. When the details of the platform are displayed, will there be any demographic data? Things like average income of the neighborhood, crime rates in comparison to the rest of the city, etc. For residential properties i believe this can be a very strong factor. Of course the platform that you showed is still alpha/beta, but it is a function that i believe could be useful.
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I'm really happy you guys showed the demo to us and Ian Balina. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIgN4QJO_Kc) He clearly is a pro and i was already sad that he scored your ICO 73% earlier. Trust me when i say this will get the attention of investors. |
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Interesting concept. From reading the whitepaper i had a hard time forming a good picture of the idea, but the video on https://www.paypie.com/ clarified a lot and i will be watching the thread from now on. |
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If they can truly bring 12-20% annual profits this project will be awesome! I might put a big amount of my savings there if it works like they say it will.
Assume the worst. Assume you will lose it all. Only invest what you can lose. real estate is most profitable business going all over the world. i am prefer real estate is best opportunity to invest on real project. ehm leeman brothers, usa real estate crash? presently there is a bubble in europe as well, since the EZB has lowered the intereset drastically. ppl are awaiting a bubble crash nowadays. for example. a normal house with garden an 800m˛ costs about 200-300k € in germany, and now, the price is set at 400-500k nowadays. ppl are shooting above their income and get a credit, thus risking off not being able to pay the credit in long term. ofc, real estate is a good investment, but not now imo I agree that real estate markets can crash. I disagree that we are currently in a bubble right now though and think it's a very good time to get into real estate. In many European countries the housing market is only just getting out of the slump. Their Medium article mentions two partners in Spain, so lets look at Spanish housing market. That looks like a turnaround of the housing market to me. In 2012, house prices fell 11.34% (-13.82% inflation-adjusted) In 2013, house prices fell 9.19% (-9.44% inflation-adjusted) In 2014, house prices fell 2.96% (-1.96% inflation-adjusted) In 2015, house prices fell 1.71% (-1.71% inflation-adjusted) In 2016, house prices increased slightly by 1.67% (0.1% inflation-adjusted) source: http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/Spain |
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Thank you, I just checked it out. It is nice to see a bit of transparency within a crypto based startup company. The more videos created using actual team members, the less likely it is to be a scam, in my opinion. What i like is that he mentions that they might show of some of the platform on monday (tomorrow). It's an alpha he says, but it's good news that they are already that far and confident to show it off. |
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If they can truly bring 12-20% annual profits this project will be awesome! I might put a big amount of my savings there if it works like they say it will.
As long as the 12-20% wouldnt get eaten by the pumps and dumps of whales. I do not hope, that the token will get a speculation asset. But when the value of the token would be more important than his real sense/task, giving the holders a divident, it could get really dangerous for the development in the future The 12-20% is profit that you get paid in ETH, not from appreciation of the REAL token. Though of course the token value might change as well. |
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]This wouldn't make any sense at all. The real estate is tokenized. It doesn't matter how much the coin is worth, it represents the appropriate share in a real estate no matter what. However, it should be assumed that the value of the coin also reflects the value of the properties, which is then again difficult to handle. Do those coins get any kind of specific tag, for example property 1 etc.?
How could this one didn't make sense? You already said that it should be assumed that the value of the coin reflects the value of the properties, then it will make sense. The value of the properties is directly proportional to the value of coin and vice versa. I already answered this thing. "The value of the properties is directly proportional to the value of coin and vice versa." That things matter when you want to buy REAL token from another currencies. The value of the properties are depend on the amount of REAL tokens, not the value of the tokens. Ok I don't understand this... If you have a single token that is supposed to reflect a property's value, how are you going to deal with all the tokens reflecting fluctuant value of various properties? You either need a clear identifier of a token per property, or you have a problem. It's as simple as that. It's explained pretty well in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_50nZyUc3KAAs i understand it, once a property is listed on the platform, the current value of the property will be translated into a X amount of REAL tokens. So even if you haven't used your REAL tokens to purchase a part/stake of a property, the token has value because you CAN use it to purchase part of a property. And those property's had inherit value. Sure housing markets fluctuate, but its nothing compared to normal crypto. And given that they are starting with the housing market in Spain, that is a housing market that is currently increasing in value a lot. |
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Paragon will be an amazing addition to the cannabis industry. You're right we could probably talk all day about all the benefits of marijuana. What about Paragon? they bring the safe space, organization and a platform for us to work towards the legalization of marijuana while growing businesses.
Why do you need a new Paragon coin? Why not pick any altcoin at all, buy up $10 million of it, and use it? Oh, right, because that doesn't make the 'founders' of this ICO a ton of money personally. Have you not read the whitepaper or their website at all? I suggest you check out the reddit thread what the use of the coin is and how they will use cooperate with IOTA. https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/6uxipy/iota_paragoncoin_david_s%C3%B8nsteb%C3%B8_jessica_versteeg/ |
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someone know real token which exchange will be available after ICO? and what distribution when will be distribute to investors? after ico or same time?
It is already confirmed to be listed on Gatecoin in september: https://blog.gatecoin.com/blockchain-asset-weekly-25-august-2017-6ec991c0eed0I personally expect bigger exchanges to follow and i hope Bittrex as well. But i know Bittrex can be troublesome to get listed. In an interview with one of the people from REAL he mentioned they hired someone especially to market them to Exchanges. A really good sign! |
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Well, I have read that a dozen times now "Revolutionizing the Cannabis Industry". Now why would I be supposed to believe that you can make it happen?  There are a lot of projects attempting precisely this, but they fail constantly or can't gain the traction they desire. What about you guys? You haven't noticed that many states in America have legalized the usage now? Right now is the perfect time to start in this industry. Once the government/states see that they get a lot of tax money from it (which they don't if its being sold illegally), then adoption and legalization will only grow. |
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The problem this project has to face is that a lot of people are strongly against cannabis even if its used in medical purpose. Even projects like this wont change their mind, so you have an extra obstacle compared to other coins. Your team have shown, that this project has a firm and real goal, but you should expect, that it wont be accepted everywhere. If you manage to break this taboo wall, you will be bound to succeed.
I agree with that, breaking the taboo is difficult and important. Especially in America. But once the Cannabis steps out of the illegal scene it can change its image. Become a more professional industry, and Paragon has shown to be very professional at least. |
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If I use my REAL tokens to invest in an property, 90% of the rent for this property is distributed to the investors. Correct me if I'm wrong. Now my question. How do they pay out these profits? Will the investors get REAL tokens as a reward (like they are staking REAL) or will they get payed in an other crypto currency?
The rent is converted to ETH, You get a percentage of the total amount of the rent/ETH by the amount of REAL tokens you have invested minus the 10% for the REAL team. I could be wrong, read the white paper on their page. https://www.real.markets/maybe someone can explain better. I believe you got the explanation right. A good choice since ETH is such an established crypto that offers easy liquidity. Though a possible downside is the volatility that even a big crypto like ETH has. Of course, this can also be an upside, you get the ETH and ETH course rises, you are getting extra profits  I have a little bit confused . As you says , So if the ETH falls, Will I get extra loss ？ I thought about this as well. Rent is converted to ETH, depending on the daily market rate. Assuming a projects monthly rate is the same, if ETH price goes down you will receive more ETH. If ETH daily price goes up you receive less ETH. That is my take on it. Exactly, and if you;re worried the ETH price will drop, you can just change it to dollars as soon as you get paid So it's a good deal |
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I think cannabis is a bad thing and it shouldn't be legalized. It brings you good mood for free and every pleasure should have some draws and disadvantages. Some kind of balance is always needed IMO and narcotics break the balance. They were a taboo during the human history for a reason.
Really? I can get so annoyed by comments like this. Sure, alcohol is okay, but weed is evil!  Try to keep an open mind to the benefits cannabis has to offer, especially the medical uses it has. And just because it has such a taboo these are hardly used, its a real shame. And i hope Paragon will focus on the medical usage of cannabis, with the quality control of the product they can offer it should be possible. |
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If I use my REAL tokens to invest in an property, 90% of the rent for this property is distributed to the investors. Correct me if I'm wrong. Now my question. How do they pay out these profits? Will the investors get REAL tokens as a reward (like they are staking REAL) or will they get payed in an other crypto currency?
The rent is converted to ETH, You get a percentage of the total amount of the rent/ETH by the amount of REAL tokens you have invested minus the 10% for the REAL team. I could be wrong, read the white paper on their page. https://www.real.markets/maybe someone can explain better. I believe you got the explanation right. A good choice since ETH is such an established crypto that offers easy liquidity. Though a possible downside is the volatility that even a big crypto like ETH has. Of course, this can also be an upside, you get the ETH and ETH course rises, you are getting extra profits |
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Why did you choose a real estate? What are the advantages?
Of course real estate is something that can still grow and much in the world of Crypo, Real comes to leverage the Economy in this sense and bring us more convenience in the long term, if dealing with real estate, this whole noise of Ico reflects the certain success of Real, and continuous Not to mention that the biggest benefit is that an actual property assures there is always a floor for the coin/token. Unlike other coins which can drop to 1 sat, for the real token it will always be worth a part of a property (house/hotel/apartment), this gives it a floor value, which it cannot drop below practically. Sure the house can drop in value, but right now the housing market is recovering and climbing in value again. Normally you are right, but not in the crypto world, where you can see several coins going down despite of good news or coins going up despite of bad news. Alts are unregulated and victims of speculation. A big problem also for Real since its real value could get under pressure with every popping alt bubble Normally in crypto, yes. But this isn't something like good or bad news. It's a physical property (house/appartment/hotel) that is basically the collateral. Like with a mortage, your house is your collateral. Other cryptocurrency (at least almost all), dont have a real world property as collateral. |
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