Bittrex hasn't fucked me...yet
Bittrex has been OK for me for trading. For getting value out.... not so much. |
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Do we really want to send them to coinbase? I understood they've been naughty in assisting agressive nutrino chainalyasis/analytic tactics.
Genuinely curious. What _exactly_ do you think they are doing to aid chainalysis? Divulging private customer data? I'm not accusing them of anything illegal however since Coinbase acquired Neutrino, now they have the largest on ramp and customer base with chainalysis rolled together. Not only is it a honeypot for leaks, its recreating the same privacy invasive, centralized practices familiar in today's banking. While understanding the merits of such, I prefer to support smaller privacy focused on ramps in efforts to avoid ultimately enslaving the population with an 'all seeing' Gov. Bitcoin. To answer your question directly, Coinbase is consolidating power to break and prevent privacy in Bitcoin. #deletecoinbase So you have no proof that they are using such data to nefarious ends? That's certainly what it appears you are saying. Your closing statement is topologically identical to 'Google/Amazon/Facebook is consolidating power to break and prevent privacy in all aspects of life'. Which could be a true statement, but I bet there is not one in a hundred persons reading this that does not deal with at least one of those organizations from time to time. |
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Do we really want to send them to coinbase? I understood they've been naughty in assisting agressive nutrino chainalyasis/analytic tactics.
Genuinely curious. What _exactly_ do you think they are doing to aid chainalysis? Divulging private customer data? First things come out of my mind: Doing chain analyisis on all the trades you do before funding deposit/ after funds withdrawal. Coinbase: the Neutrino scandal and the #DeleteCoinbase campaignOkay... from the article: " hypothetical activity". Got any evidence that they are divulging any such data? Also from the article: "CoinBase marketing manager Christine Sandler said: “It was important for us to migrate away from our current providers. They were selling client data to outside sources..." So they were able to move from an external provider who they knew was selling customer data to others, and bring that function in-house, by purchasing an existing vendor if such services, who they can now control. Perhaps stopping such sale of customer data. Yes, that's provocative. But rather than a net negative for privacy, it could be a net positive. Again, what evidence exists for your speculated nefarious activity? Yes. Dust attack has been known since years. Evidence Coinbase is misusing these small bonuses? I mean, such could be perfectly explained by a simple enticement to garner new customers. Much as banks used to offer a free toaster for opening an account. Selling those data to government agencies
Again... evidence? Inspiring other Bad actors to follow the same vicious path. Read: #deletePaxos'Inspiring'? OK. I guess. But not (e.g.) Binance, right? I don't deny you have some scattered facts upon which to start to build such a case. But from what I have seen your evidence, it falls woefully short of being convincing that they are involved in any nefarious activity. Got anything more conclusive? Ever notice that jbreher is never too slow to defend bad actors in the space? Wonder why? Stolfi, is that you?  Yeah.  Wondering why he's taken offence to the point he felt it necessary to defend. Well, i started with fillipone's Icygreen's accusation. As I deal frequently with Coinbase, I was wondering what evidence s/he had for the accusation. For if there were solid evidence of Coinbase being nefarious, it would be to my advantage to know it. As I would like to avoid dealing with nefarious actors. So I did not defend - I merely asked for the evidence. When the 'evidence' presented was merely evidence that there might possibly be nefarious activity afoot, I pushed harder. Perhaps, I thought, fillipone thought that what was presented was more than it was. But in filllipone's reply, it is evident that the entire accusation is mere conjecture. Could they be acting in bad faith? Sure, it's ... umm ... possible. Given the evidence presented, however, it is also quite possible that they are not. So, no offense taken, and no defense presented. Unless you consider trying to nail down wishy-washy accusations to concrete statements of facts as 'defense'. In which case, I'll just put you in the 'special snowflake' pile. Which would make me sad. I've not previously thought of you as such. |
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Ever notice that jbreher is never too slow to defend bad actors in the space?
Wonder why?
Stolfi, is that you?
Oh come on - that's beyond stupid, even for you. Though truth be told, I have indeed pointed out that a large part of Stolfi's posited faults bandied about this here thread are indeed fallacious. ----------- More to the point however, the claim of Coinbase being a 'bad actor' is based upon mere conjecture. At least in the recent discussion. Unless of course you'd like to bring forward some evidence of actual nefarious behavior on their behalf? |
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I don't deny you have some scattered facts upon which to start to build such a case. But from what I have seen your evidence, it falls woefully short of being convincing that they are involved in any nefarious activity. Got anything more conclusive?
This is more than enough for me to use more user/privacy respectful exchanges. I have nothing to gain from this (well, technically, if everyone do coinjoin, also my coinjoins are more secure, but this is a little bit too indirect for the immediate reasoning), I am just advocating user security. There are not downside not using them, only upsides: hence choice is trivial. Want to use them anyway? I do disagree, but hey, we are all grown up adults. I can see your point. Which seems to be to be adequately summed up by: "why take the chance"? But to claim there is no downside to other exchanges is pure folly. Where, pray tell, would you recommend I look for a better solution which should encompass: - technical solidity - longevity - insurance - market depth - accurate order execution - minimized chance of experiencing loss through hack inside job- ease of getting fiat in and out of the system for a US citizen - to include speed, amount, and hassle-free ? Bear in mind I already have dealt with most of the majors available to US citizens. |
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Do we really want to send them to coinbase? I understood they've been naughty in assisting agressive nutrino chainalyasis/analytic tactics.
Genuinely curious. What _exactly_ do you think they are doing to aid chainalysis? Divulging private customer data? First things come out of my mind: Doing chain analyisis on all the trades you do before funding deposit/ after funds withdrawal. Coinbase: the Neutrino scandal and the #DeleteCoinbase campaignOkay... from the article: " hypothetical activity". Got any evidence that they are divulging any such data? Also from the article: "CoinBase marketing manager Christine Sandler said: “It was important for us to migrate away from our current providers. They were selling client data to outside sources..." So they were able to move from an external provider who they knew was selling customer data to others, and bring that function in-house, by purchasing an existing vendor if such services, who they can now control. Perhaps stopping such sale of customer data. Yes, that's provocative. But rather than a net negative for privacy, it could be a net positive. Again, what evidence exists for your speculated nefarious activity? Yes. Dust attack has been known since years. Evidence Coinbase is misusing these small bonuses? I mean, such could be perfectly explained by a simple enticement to garner new customers. Much as banks used to offer a free toaster for opening an account. Selling those data to government agencies
Again... evidence? Inspiring other Bad actors to follow the same vicious path. Read: #deletePaxos'Inspiring'? OK. I guess. But not (e.g.) Binance, right? I don't deny you have some scattered facts upon which to start to build such a case. But from what I have seen your evidence, it falls woefully short of being convincing that they are involved in any nefarious activity. Got anything more conclusive? |
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Do we really want to send them to coinbase? I understood they've been naughty in assisting agressive nutrino chainalyasis/analytic tactics.
Genuinely curious. What _exactly_ do you think they are doing to aid chainalysis? Divulging private customer data? |
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 we need an hero The mayor has the means to pull this off. At the end of the day, I can usually manage to pull my pants off. Lose my balance occasionally tho... Stop wearing those tight jeans... it is not so becoming of the elderly. The elderly are frugal, and somewhat more corpulent than when they were utes. It's bound (ha!) to happen. |
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Oh yeah, you're probably right jojo
Yeah, well truthiness has never been Lauda's strong suit. |
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Observing 9,407 on Stamp  Where else Would a WOer Observe? Coinbase Blasphemer! You should be smitten for that :-) 'sok. I've been numbed to the abuse. |
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Observing 9,407 on Stamp Where else Would a WOer Observe? Coinbase |
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we need an hero The mayor has the means to pull this off. At the end of the day, I can usually manage to pull my pants off. Lose my balance occasionally tho... |
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Thought you said 'never again' after the restaurant porch incident? |
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JJG is going for first trillion letter in a few days ......
Well, I have never seen any kind of systematic character count or letter count... So, probably would have to have Loyce or some member like that put something together, and maybe he's not really capable of putting such a thing together.... And there we have it, folks. A grand bct.org throwdown grudgematch. JJG has thrown the first gloveslap across the cheek. How will Loyce respond? In a manly manner no doubt, perhaps leaving JJG quaking and reconsidering this challenge. Any way you look at it - the entire community is perched upon the precipice. Can Loyce's text-fu parse through JJG's plethorous piles o' pointless prose? Or will JJG's diarrhetic diatribes dash Loyce's decoders? Stay tuned to find out....  Aww, you know I lurves ya JJG. I still wanna watch the grudgematch. edit: forgot to append #nohomo |
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Take the money, pay the price.
Freakin' shillwhores.
See sig if confused.
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<spew>
You know what? You need a new schtick. Your old one has been worn out for quite some time. (as a sidebar, which of those Ayre quotes -- specifically -- do you claim are a 'pivot'? <muttering under my breath: 'ya fucking idiot'>) Got an original thought in your brain? <incompetent character smearing> No -- really -- which of your Ayre quotes do you claim support your accusation of a pivot? |
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<spew>
You know what? You need a new schtick. Your old one has been worn out for quite some time. (as a sidebar, which of those Ayre quotes -- specifically -- do you claim are a 'pivot'? <muttering under my breath: 'ya fucking idiot'>) Got an original thought in your brain? |
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JJG is going for first trillion letter in a few days ......
Well, I have never seen any kind of systematic character count or letter count... So, probably would have to have Loyce or some member like that put something together, and maybe he's not really capable of putting such a thing together.... And there we have it, folks. A grand bct.org throwdown grudgematch. JJG has thrown the first gloveslap across the cheek. How will Loyce respond? In a manly manner no doubt, perhaps leaving JJG quaking and reconsidering this challenge. Any way you look at it - the entire community is perched upon the precipice. Can Loyce's text-fu parse through JJG's plethorous piles o' pointless prose? Or will JJG's diarrhetic diatribes dash Loyce's decoders? Stay tuned to find out.... |
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I could opine on the last item...it's probably because of high immunogenicity of this.
We, humans, never seen these antigens, so response is so intense that people release lots of cytokines (cytokine "storm'), which then cause what you described.
They first said snakes was the origin, but now someone is saying that it looks more like it came from a bat.
Welp, time to tear down the Bat houses!  |
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Finally, the hacked exchanges thread update is finished.
Sounds overly optimistic. Perhaps you really meant ' the hacked exchanges thread update is caught up for now'. XD |
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