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5661  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Asic IDLE when should not be IDLE on: April 11, 2016, 06:52:23 AM
Did you reset the START voltages, or the other one?

 If you didn't reset the other one, you didn't change the max voltage or affect the probable overheat condition.

 Also, what is your fan set at?
5662  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 14nm A4 Dominator ASIC, world best 1.5W/Mhs efficiency, coming soon on: April 11, 2016, 06:50:50 AM
Guess you don't know Innosilicon's track record, or know much about Litecoin, or WHY Bitcoin (but much lesser degree) and Litecoin product generations were closely-spaced BEFORE they caught up to the current Semiconductor state-of-the-art in the 14/16nm generation.

5663  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Mining survey on: April 10, 2016, 06:48:04 AM
Transaction fees RIGHT NOW are pretty much insignificant. This will change eventually, as the block reward halfings keep happening, to the point that the transaction fees will have to be enough to support the miners - but that point is quite a few years off.
5664  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Asic IDLE when should not be IDLE on: April 10, 2016, 06:47:00 AM
Check temperatures as well, and check connections between the boards.
5665  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: BW 14nm Miners Update on: April 10, 2016, 06:40:16 AM
Here is a challenge to any company like BW that is trying to put on the persona that they support bitcoin decentralization. Sell all your gear to nations other than China FIRST to even the hash rate out. There are plenty of people ready to buy so the ball is in your court BW.

The question is, why have no large mining farms in places like the USA designed their own mining ASICs.   Where do they expect to get their miners from if they don't develop them themselves?  No-one is going to sell them the latest miners if the manufacturer can make more money mining themselves.  

Why has 21.inc no viable miner despite raising over a hundred million dollars? Are there any large miners in Washington State capable of designing a miner?

KNC in Sweden has shown it can be done.  Bitfury in central Europe, Spondoolies in Israel have also done it.


MegaBigPower has been a Bitfury shop/partner since early days.


21.inc has a "vision" - but ghods only knows what it really is.

KNC has ... lawsuits.

Spoondoolies has ... a bad deal on their merger that seems to be well along the way to killing them.

Avalons has ... no committment to 14/16nm at all as of a few months ago, likely they won't even try 'till it's too late to matter.

BW has ... an apparently in-production first-gen 14nm miner that is too little, too late - barely more efficient than the best 28nm miners - and an announced "second-gen" chip that is supposedly competative with the Bitfury chip, but a few months off if they don't have any issues getting it to production. If they didn't have LKetc backing them I'd be about ready to write them off - but LKetc has a track history of delivering reliable miners.

Innosilicon has ... an annouced Scrypt chip that's a game-changer, an announcement that they were working on a next-gen SHA256 chip but no specs for it, and quite a few questions about what, when, and how much. They're still out there though, and they're the ONLY major player left that has a business OTHER THAN cryptocoin mining to generate money for them (there's a REASON they're the only folks in the industry that never bothered with pre-orders).

Bitmain has ... dwindling sales on the S7, a large mine that's still profitable, a fat wallet from their sales of the S7 and earlier miners, and is working on a 14/16nm gen chip that could show up around the halfing, but they're pretty closed mouth so no certainties there on what and when - but I'm CERTAIN they will continue to be a player for at least one more generation.


BitFury has ... a demonstrated working high-efficiency chip, farms, and partners, but a lot of questions about "when" and "how much" remaining.


 Who wins?

 Ask me again in 2 years or so.

 8-)
5666  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitfury: "16nm... sales to public start shortly" on: April 10, 2016, 06:32:39 AM
At one point they were saying "end of March", so in THEORY shortly in this case should mean "any day now".
5667  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CPU and Intergrated gpu on: April 10, 2016, 06:22:19 AM
My last 2 rigs were A10-5700 based, the new one I should have the parts for sometime next week is going to be ... interesting.

 It's intended as a prototype for some future rig builds when I have money to burn.

 AMD A10-7860K (best price/performance point right now)
 3x GTX 950 (budget limitations, but should work fine for proof of concept while providing acceptable performance)
 ASUS A88-X Pro (3 onboard PCI-E 16 bit slots as I'm NOT interested in messing with risers on this machine, AND good heat management design)
 16 Gigs DDR (2133 I think, whatever the fastest the CPU will handle) - I did spend a bit extra here for lower-CAS G,Skill over the lowest-cost option

 3 of the 4 CPU cores will be running GIMPS, the 4'th probably dedicated to the "CPU to support the GPUs" requirement for Folding@home.
 The GTXs are intended for Folding@Home, but I might do some Ethereum mining for a while to help defray some of the cost of the machine.
 Yes, I WILL participate in CureCoin when I go Folding - it's not much, but even a tiny amount of income helps a little.
 The GPU on the A10 will crunch RC5-72.

 I'll probably set one of the GTX up on "run on idle only" mode, as I also intend this specific machine to be my new primary gaming machine.


 I thought about going Intel, but the cost of CPUs there is a LOT higher, the onboard GPU is very very poor performance (it will run RC5 but at VERY low keyrates compared to an A10 GPU) though the GIMPS performance would be a ton higher. Motherboard cost was going to be directly comparable for what I insist on for a motherboard (those ASUS "BTC" motherboards all depend on risers to run more than 1 or 2 cards, NOT acceptable in a gaming machine to me).


 No, this is NOT an "efficient miner" design - it's multipurpose with mining as an afterthought.
5668  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Ohio Miners United on: April 10, 2016, 05:51:13 AM
I suspect the only significant grouping of miners in the US is in Washington state.

I'm not there yet - currently in Ionowhere - but if the next few months goes as planned I will be.
5669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 14nm A4 Dominator ASIC, world best 1.5W/Mhs efficiency, coming soon on: April 10, 2016, 05:48:31 AM
The specifications sound good. Is there an estimate on pricing yet?

Good question! The ASICs and miner price will be best ever. Will announce early bird discounted price in one week.

 Been a week and a half, announcement is where?

5670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Hardware for mining on: April 09, 2016, 07:33:33 AM
I want to ask about a good combination for mining hardware. What cpu (amd, intel?) Graphics card. Thanks

Intel CPU is better as they use less energy. It is important as the mining is all the time. For GPU, AMD is cheaper but uses more energy.

 The AMD Fury line uses comparable to a hair less electric than the Nvidea Maxwell cards. Performance in mining varies, it depends on the algorythm.

 Intel CPU are higher performance in general, but a LOT more expensive. Power use varies, AMD wins some loses some others.

 Intel integrated graphics remain a joke, though they're not as horrible a joke as they were before Haswell. AMD still kicks them easily across the board, but you don't really want to mine on an integrated graphics CPU anyway as it's nowhere near as efficient as a dedicated GPU.



 One "core" on a current multi-core CPU for all practical purposes (except physicall design) *IS* a CPU. It's trivial (though a bit expensive) to put 8 "CPUs" in a single machine any more, and 16 is pretty common on high-end server motherboards (using dual Xeon or Opteron gear).


 Mining ANYTHING with a laptop IS A BAD IDEA - they're not designed to run 24/7 at high power usage like almost ALL mining.
 Laptops also tend to be rather low performance due to space limitations.


 The AMD R9 Nano is an impressive card - but still a bit pricey. I'd LOVE to have a farm of those crushing RC5.....

5671  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: BW 14nm Miners Update on: April 09, 2016, 07:23:24 AM
Keep in mind that BW.com is part-owned by LKetc, which has a solid record of producing reliable SHA256 miners (and appear to have had a hand in, or inspired, the design of many of the Innosilicon miners for both SHA256 AND Scrypt).

They're NOT just cloud.


 They announced specs months ago, ballpark .25 watts/GH as I recall - or about the same as the S7.
 They also announced a second-gen 14nm chip that they said would be in production in a few months, with specs fairly close to the BitFury chip of videos fame.


 With that said, though...



BW will not take pre-sale money from public sales


 ... you already did, with your B11 and B12 and in-process B16 crowdfunding stuff, though those weren't a standard pre-order setup.

5672  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CPU and Intergrated gpu on: April 09, 2016, 07:12:00 AM
Any miner that will work with a discrete AMD vid card will work with the video on an A10 - depending on the generation, it's either a 6xxx or 7xxx series AMD vid card for software purposes.
5673  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Running Miner off of Deep cycle batteries - expected drain? on: April 09, 2016, 06:53:10 AM

Yeah its horrible. WE energies is among some of the worst. I read they recently shut down a Michigan plant they had, and then due to loss of profits from running that plant, decided to push that cost onto Wisconsin residents (where i live) to coop profit loss due to the Michigan site being shut down. That could be the reason for the extra hatred towards green energy programs.


 In my case, it's that the hundreds of millions Alliant is pouring into it's major wind farm projects have been a driving force behind the almost 50% rate increases (through new added "fees") they've pushed through here in the last 7 years or so. They USED to be a hair below US average power cost, now they're one of the highest-rate (all factors considered) utilities that is NOT on one of the coasts.


 I'm also less than a mile from the Clipper Windpower factory - which company is an interesting story in how to NOT take federal research funds and use them. VERY poorly done design, so even they were the first to market with a 2.5 MW windmill design, the thing broke so much that warrenttee repair costs has almost killed the company outright.

5674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Only have enough $$ to buy one mining rig... SHA-256 vs Scrypt Mining?! on: April 09, 2016, 06:48:03 AM
There are a few merchants that take Litecoin, but it's nowhere near the adoption of Bitcoin - NOTHING else is anywhere near the adoption rate of Bitcoin.
Doge used to have a few merchants that took it, but I don't know if they still do since Doge went the merged-mine road.


 The trick on video cards is to max the hash/W and hash/$ as best you can - sometimes you have to trade off a bit on one to get the other. Usually the top cards are nowhere near the best on a hash/$ basis and most cards of one maker and one generation are a tossup on hash/W so it's usually hash/$ that matters - and generally 1-2 steps DOWN from the top card is the best place to be on hash/$

 Right now, for Nvidia cards the sweet spot seems to be the GTX 960, with the 970 and 950 VERY close on the basis of (CUDA Cores x clock) / $ basis, which equates pretty closely to hash/$

 I'm not sure where that point is for current AMD cards, as most of the projects I want to throw serious crunchrate at are better optimised for Nvidea (RC5 is an exception, but I'm already crunching at top100 rates there with my older gear).
 In the 7xxx generation it was usually the 7850 or 7870 that was the "optimal" point in the curve for most projects (scrypt mining in perticular most big rigs went 7870 per many folks talking about their setups).

 Oddly enough, except for the Fury (HBM memory) line, the 7xxx archetecture is pretty much still keeping up with the R2xx and R3xx series (most of the R2xx cards were rebadged 7xxx series, with perhaps some minor tweeks at most after all) and when you can find used 7xxx cards they're usually inexpensive.


5675  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Graphics card doubt on: April 09, 2016, 06:40:16 AM
Yup, at that electric rate IF you use the full capasity of a 1250/1300 watt supply (or close) it makes sense to go Platinum.

 My electric is a good bit cheaper, my Seasonic X1250s and EVGA 1300 G2s aren't anywhere near full loaded, and both of them are bloody close to Platinum efficiency anyway, so it would take me a decade or more to pay off the difference in cost (unless I see the Seasonic X1200 Platinum on a REAL GOOD sale, then I'd have to think about it!).

5676  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU Mining on: April 09, 2016, 06:37:16 AM
Sure there is.

 The thrill of competition!


 (I'm already active in the distributed.net RC5 project and GIMPS, wanted something else to hit top 1000 producer in that matters).


 And yes, my next gaming rig (just ordered the parts this morning) will be doing all 3 in it's spare cycles.

5677  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU Mining on: April 08, 2016, 08:36:39 AM
I plan to start building future cruncher rigs that will point at folding@home (and generate some minimal income via the foldingcoin thing).

 Similar idea.

 8-)


5678  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CPU and Intergrated gpu on: April 08, 2016, 08:31:36 AM
AMD A-series, especially the high-end A10 units, have the equivilent of a low-end AMD graphic card on them - my A10-5700 integrated GPU has about 65% of the performance of the AMD 7750 (384 cores vs. 512, clocks a bit lower, but seems to talk to the CPU a bit more efficiently).

 The current top-line A10s have 512 cores and clock them a bit faster.


 Nothing else is even close on integrated graphics - Intel "Haswell" is a sad pathetic joke in comparison, just like Intel Graphics have never been competative with NVidea or AMD/ATI in general.


 Stand-alone cards are a LOT more effective and efficient to mine with.
5679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Graphics card doubt on: April 08, 2016, 08:07:07 AM
Platinum vs Gold on power supplies is problematical, unless you get the platinum on a good sale you won't save enough on electric cost to pay for the extra cost as a general rule - and if you do, your electric rate is high enough you probably aren't makeing any money mining anyway.

 8-O


 Gold vs. Bronze or less is a much more paying proposition, there's a LOT lower price premium for the Gold supplies.

5680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: X11 MINING WITH SCRYPT ASIC? on: April 08, 2016, 07:55:50 AM
wow buncha fucking idiots talking before even thinking.
http://www.dualminer.com/iBeLink-DM384M-Dash-Miner_p_36.html
these have been out for 4 months plus, i know because i know an owner of a few
their batch one i sold out  3+ months ago...

384mh/s X11 ASCII

 That's NOT a scrypt ASIC.
 It is X11 specific.

 You might want to take your own advice about not talking before thinking.

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