i really dont see any difference from funds stolen from existing cards and funds stolen by not fulfilling orders that people paid for. I do see a minor difference when it comes to the loans but those are stolen funds too. However if you were to incorporate loans - there is one person (not me) who could not be made whole on their loan even if you were to give them 100% the funds collected.
not to diminish what Max did - I love his work and owe him a lot for things outside of this whole yogg shit - but his line was simple:
I cannot properly quote it because the thread is locked:
"All proceeds from this auction will be donated to the yogg rug fund."
I would say the term "rug" involves all the bullshit yogg did to take funds whether it was sweeping keys, taking funds for cards he never planned to produce/ship or even the loans.
He did it all knowing he was walking away and didnt give two shits who he ripped off - his calls/texts to several members afterwards and during the thefts shows this to be the case.
There are not enough funds to cover everything - that much is known. And loans are hard to prove even as they mostly require taking the word of those involved - I doubt there are contracts, mine is simply a text asking for .05 btc......
but stolen funds are easy to prove (and I think most were proven already) and sales are easy to prove. Same with the folks whose cards were never funded.
if there are people not made whole - and funds get given back to the donators how does that even work? it all goes back to the largest donator? or?
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