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801  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [For Sale] Ballet NFT Wallet (Ethereum) 47 remaining on: September 26, 2023, 07:48:40 PM
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802  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 26, 2023, 07:46:40 PM
the point of these coins has been lost if the idea is that all coins be loaded and remain loaded.

the theme is "REKT"

the winner is in fact the "scammer" if you think about it.

SBF took everyones money.

what was coin one? everyone lost their funding except the winner - "SBF".

yogg randomly swept cards removing balances - some were able to beat him to it.

what is coin two? coins will be randomly swept - if you are lucky you can be the winner - "Yogg". if you are fast enough you can save your funds.


the coins - the process to funding/not funding/sweeping etc is to follow the theme of the conmen who the coins are modeled after.

Now that all said and done.

A 3rd coin modeled after Titan and their 2FA shenanigans - if we were to do that, I would say all the coins should be funded at (what is the amount he gave? 42%?) the same percentage Tim is paying out - with one coin getting  the rest - the winner would be "Tim"
Regarding your fast & lucky idea with the yogg coins, maybe there is a way to use the timelock function to at a certain blockheight automatically transfer yogged coins' balances to the one winner (yogg) coin?

And in regards of SBF, yes he may have taken everyone's money but not everything of everyone’s money. Meaning people will receive back a (tiny) amount of their funds when the remaining crypto is shared with the accounts affected by the scam (with the help of an official liquidator). Which would have been perfectly reflected by a low load for rekt coins.

Anyway, I am in favor of creating a nice collectible instead of trying to stick to close to reality (which wasn’t the case anyway for the FTX coin as explained above) and therefore for all coins to have a tiny bit of load.

as for FTX - perhaps they will get something back - right after the mt gox payments get made. We all know how well that is going.
Right now though many have lost everything and got nothing back.

as for the timelocked - the issue I see is that everyone would be able to view the txn and see where the "sending" funds are coming from ie their wallets and then they simply empty the wallet (which is what yogg did with the timelocks he made)

I get that everyone has their preferences and all that and most would have the preference to keep their sats - totally agreed with and understood.

these are just a bit different from the normal is all.
803  Economy / Collectibles / [For Sale] Ballet NFT Wallet (Ethereum) 17 remaining on: September 26, 2023, 07:42:50 PM

Balletcrypto Ethereum NFT Wallet - 50 17 remaining

These are the plastic variety of cards and are non-denominated







Simply list how many you want here or send me a DM - DO NOT SEND PYMT until I confirm availability and at that time you can send pymt to the address below. If these go well, I will get more.

COST:
Cards are $8 ea

PAYMENT:
Bitcoin BTC and only to this address: bc1qn37ly2yjla0thlnfsverzezrvxtxdsyvecp4es
Can also pay via Lightning if your wallet supports LN addresses: moparmining@walletofsatoshi.com
if you get a pm to pay any other way - ignore it, it will not be from me.

SHIPPING:

Shipping can be done directly by me or item can be provided to minerjones for consolidation with other orders and reshipping. There is no fee for me to provide them to minerjones.

If you are in the US and want them shipped direct - add $5 total to your request for shipping/handling. International - will have to do that one a case by case.


804  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [SALE]Balletcrypto "Polygon (matic) Gift Cards" - 19 available on: September 26, 2023, 07:39:39 PM
bump - still have quite a few of these left.
805  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Looking for a public Addy for a 2013 BF lealana 1ltc #6586 on: September 26, 2023, 05:15:33 PM
I will say this - getting the full address would be like getting the card number sure - but to get the pin - that would be like getting the private key and no one here is asking smoothie or the seller of any coin to give up the private key in addition to the address.

806  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (S/N 3). The number of slots is limited! on: September 26, 2023, 03:24:47 AM

congrats @Danydee !  and thank you @unijoin for the raffle.
807  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INFO]-Crypto Stamps- Collectable Blockchain postage stamps on: September 25, 2023, 11:34:01 PM
Croatia stamps - I am looking for the following physical stamps:

V1:  tier 2 (airplane)
V2:  tier 1 (mail coach)
V3:  tier 1 (golden nevera) and tier 2 (silver nevera)
V4:  tier 2 (teslas remote controlled boat) and tier 3 (teslas wireless signal transmission)
V5:  tier 1 (balthazars bed) and tier 2 (balthazar with a test tube)


What I have as extras - can be used for trade - if you need them:

V1:  tier 4 (train)
V3:  tier 4 (grey) and tier 5 (blue)
V4:  2x tier 4 (tesla coil)
V5:  2x tier 4 (balthazars submarine)

Also willing to pay within reason as well.
808  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 25, 2023, 07:08:22 PM
the point of these coins has been lost if the idea is that all coins be loaded and remain loaded.

the theme is "REKT"

the winner is in fact the "scammer" if you think about it.

SBF took everyones money.

what was coin one? everyone lost their funding except the winner - "SBF".

yogg randomly swept cards removing balances - some were able to beat him to it.

what is coin two? coins will be randomly swept - if you are lucky you can be the winner - "Yogg". if you are fast enough you can save your funds.


the coins - the process to funding/not funding/sweeping etc is to follow the theme of the conmen who the coins are modeled after.

Now that all said and done.

A 3rd coin modeled after Titan and their 2FA shenanigans - if we were to do that, I would say all the coins should be funded at (what is the amount he gave? 42%?) the same percentage Tim is paying out - with one coin getting  the rest - the winner would be "Tim"

The idea of lucky & fast enough to save your funds wouldn’t be fair bc someone in Europe for example may be waiting an extra week to receive their coin.

well to be fair, it should not be started until everyone has their coins of course.
809  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 25, 2023, 06:08:18 PM
the point of these coins has been lost if the idea is that all coins be loaded and remain loaded.

the theme is "REKT"

the winner is in fact the "scammer" if you think about it.

SBF took everyones money.

what was coin one? everyone lost their funding except the winner - "SBF".

yogg randomly swept cards removing balances - some were able to beat him to it.

what is coin two? coins will be randomly swept - if you are lucky you can be the winner - "Yogg". if you are fast enough you can save your funds.


the coins - the process to funding/not funding/sweeping etc is to follow the theme of the conmen who the coins are modeled after.

Now that all said and done.

A 3rd coin modeled after Titan and their 2FA shenanigans - if we were to do that, I would say all the coins should be funded at (what is the amount he gave? 42%?) the same percentage Tim is paying out - with one coin getting  the rest - the winner would be "Tim"
810  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 25, 2023, 03:40:15 PM
I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats.  I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt".  I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

the coin maker has the decision. the buyers vote with their wallet - whether they buy it or not.


Of course Frank makes the decision, but it seems like he would like community input based off his comments.  This would ensure the direction of coin is not commandeered.

agreed - Frank does have the final say.

And no one is commandeering the coin.
811  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 25, 2023, 03:02:20 PM
I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats.  I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt".  I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.

I believe there needs to be a vote as there is no consensus.

the coin maker has the decision. the buyers vote with their wallet - whether they buy it or not.
812  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 25, 2023, 02:45:18 PM
I agree that there should be at least 40 coins and these should be in line with Frank's interest, which is this time that all coins contain some Sats.  I outlined previously how this could be done along with the "scam"/"rekt".  I wouldn't be opposed to a higher mintage based off of interest, plus it would make the amount on the "winning" coin higher.

yes all coins start off with sats and then one by one they are swept until only one is left and that one is the winner.

then as the weeks go by we would know who peeled and swept their own coins as there would be nothing to take if their number came up.
813  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 25, 2023, 02:19:28 PM
I disagree.

The 39 rekt and 1 winner is ideal to represent what these scammers did.

everyone got rekt except the 1 who did not.

these coins should follow that same path.



and to your point @pinky1234

to change from 40 to 21 would then rule out almost half of those who bought the first from being able to have the second.

I think we should stick with 40, and those that bought the first should have rights to get the second - if they give up their number then that should allow someone else to be able to get it.
814  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 25, 2023, 01:51:08 AM
Frankly I dont think we will ever know who has the coin. with 39 coins with 0 BTC. there really is no incentive to peal your coin. The value of this coin lies in the story and potential for the win. So when no one peels we all win.

Everyone has .04 basically unless winner redeems.  I was good with the way the last one went down.  Maybe something different this time but I don’t like there being an incentive to peel.

well the only incentive would be to see if you won. if you are ok without knowing then you wouldnt peel.
815  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION][CLOSED] MX12ART, BITCOIN ART, COLLECTIBLE on: September 24, 2023, 11:14:59 PM
txn id - b80ef7e7642d91457569a99c58d944b0ca50082b89bac47696acf145e0824ce8

forgot to post this earlier this morning when I made payment - was waiting for the above post confirming auction win.
816  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 24, 2023, 11:12:29 PM
   
   Not too happy about that at all...as these ideas really screw up the idea of hodling a physical Bitcoin. I was too eager to buy the coin without really reading what the decision was to be.

   Too bad....was looking forward to having a physical loaded Bitcoin and not having to peel and ruin it to find out what I have or in this case now peel to outrun whomever is sweeping the coins. Roll Eyes

 

I can understand that - these though have not been so much about hodling a guranteed "loaded" item but more about the scammers and what they did.

1. FTX - took the funds but never really allocated it to the depositers in reality and instead put it all in his giant slush fund - pay for anything and everything account at Alameda.

2. Yogg - took the funds, loaded items then periodically swept random cards - leaving some intact in same cases

these coins are following - somewhat - in those same steps.

In the end, you can leave it intact - slabbed perhaps and potentially you could be the recepient of the funding.
817  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 24, 2023, 10:19:15 PM
When the fuck was that decided? I was not aware!



40 coins produced..... 1 winner and 39 REKT  Grin

Load per person will be 0.001BTC plus coin price & shipping

This will make the winning coin have a load of 0.04BTC  Cool


This was one of the ideas put forth in the original thread - other ideas were presented but this is what was decided  and what was posted in the eventual sales thread.

The second one is kinda the same concept except people will be able to sweep their own coin prior to it getting swept - this then however rules them out from winning the pot.
818  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] 530th ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD-CYPHER HODL LOADED BALLET on: September 24, 2023, 07:42:37 PM
76 - MoparMiningLLC thanks!
819  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 24, 2023, 07:40:36 PM
The hard part is you cant send to the winning coin until the end I think - after the first sweep, everyone could check to see if they got swept funds, if they did not they could sweep as they now know they are not the winner. So maybe every time - sweep funds to an “skam” account and whoever ends up being last one holding a balance, they win. If anyone peels/sweeps their own coin prior to the end would be out of the running then.


After reading yours again - I think we are saying the same thing @minerjones

Well... they wouldn't necessarily know since no one knows which address goes with which coin.
So we would only know that one coin got swept, but not which one

   I respect your ideas fellas....but will that mean that my coin could end up with no funds?

   No disrespect to your ideas...but I would prefer the way we did it the first time...one coin will have a large amount of Sats and the rest have a low amount...this way nobody know who has what and at least everyone will have some Sats in their coins.

   Again, I respect your ideas and I am for whatever Frank or the majority decide...but these are my two Sats on it as I want one of these coins to remind me of what this mother fucka did to me and others.

I think you’re mistaken if you think the SBF losing coins have any BTC on them. Only one coin has the BTC and the rest are rekt

   ALL the SBF coins have SATS one them ....just that one has more than other...none are REKT...or swept unless the owner decided to do that.

Incorrect - only one SBF coin has any funds. The rest are empty
820  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INTEREST CHECK] Alpen Coin "Scam Coin" serie 2 on: September 24, 2023, 07:39:56 PM
The hard part is you cant send to the winning coin until the end I think - after the first sweep, everyone could check to see if they got swept funds, if they did not they could sweep as they now know they are not the winner. So maybe every time - sweep funds to an “skam” account and whoever ends up being last one holding a balance, they win. If anyone peels/sweeps their own coin prior to the end would be out of the running then.


After reading yours again - I think we are saying the same thing @minerjones

Well... they wouldn't necessarily know since no one knows which address goes with which coin.
So we would only know that one coin got swept, but not which one

   I respect your ideas fellas....but will that mean that my coin could end up with no funds?

   No disrespect to your ideas...but I would prefer the way we did it the first time...one coin will have a large amount of Sats and the rest have a low amount...this way nobody know who has what and at least everyone will have some Sats in their coins.

   Again, I respect your ideas and I am for whatever Frank or the majority decide...but these are my two Sats on it as I want one of these coins to remind me of what this mother fucka did to me and others.

In the end the result is the same - one coin will be funded and the rest will be empty
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