Has anyone checked the genesis block of Tenebrix?
As made quite apparent by the first post of Tenebrix thread, the existence of Tenebrix Protecshun Fun-d is not a secret (however, unlike other protecshun funds, this one does not involve "protechshun" "rackets" ;-) ) |
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Hey Lolcust,
Can I use my APU to mine? or is the network hostile to that also?
Well, there are no APU-optimized miners of course, but it is an interesting question to ponder, APUs are interesting and exotic beasts....could be good Tenebrix performers (the future is APU farms lol  ) What does it mean when it says boo or yay sometimes? When I get a yay, it shows up as a transaction, but not necessarily as 25 TBX? I really appreciate the quietness of mining. I think it counts near-solutions and orphans as transactions, looking into it. I have a question so the difficulty changes every week, is that time based or block based? Same as BTC, but faster. how many coin will there be in existence? no limit, except for natural balance of generation / loss that will be achieved at some point. I guess you can stop the block and change it at will?
Ha-ha, that's the other coin's prerogative. |
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Getting 0 connections...
Any ports I should open? Nodes to add?
No connection problems with 5 other coins...
edit: Looks like the same problem I had with GeistGeld -> IRC recv failed: 10060
We solved it than by adding nodes, what IP's can I try?
69.120.6.210:7777 90.2828.223.65:7777 24.6.159.24:7777 81.165.1.128:7777 72.234.181.254:7777 |
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Please please pretty please, x-coins can neither be truly deflationary nor truly inflationary because they are all essentially infinitely divisible and can undergo infinite denomination at a drop of a hat. Now, a CC where diff only goes up is a fun idea (but in a bad way) |
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Can someone please xplan how to solo mine geist geld, cant seam to get it working.
thanks
Windoze ? Linux ? Preferred mining soft ? What exactly went wrong with previous tries  ? win7, i prefer phoenix coz of phatk2. i dont know how to setup for solo, ... yeye im that dumb Nobody ever bothered to figure out why Geist and Phoenix don't play together that well. CGMiner with right settings and poclbm w/defaults (as used by GUIminer that comes with portability suite) work better. Use GUIminer, it's easy to point at geist (127.0.0.1 port 8777) and fire away |
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Can someone please xplan how to solo mine geist geld, cant seam to get it working.
thanks
Windoze ? Linux ? Preferred mining soft ? What exactly went wrong with previous tries ? |
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I got the client compiled in my kubuntu laptop and as expected, miner started to work. But I can not run miner and client at the same time in my Gentoo box  Eh, guess I should eventually figure out how to do a somewhat decent static build for them Linuxes, so that a lot of this will be cut out. Did you try changing the rpcport in config ? From the look of it, the miner seems just pointed someplace else. Did you try passing username and password as --userpass 1:1 ? Nooooo! Don't build binar blobs for Linux Fix the code so it can be compiled It obviously can be compiled, and was compiled and tested, for Windows XP, W 7 64, Ubuntu LTS and Fedora ^__^ Binary blobs, when done right, have their merits (doin them right is somewhat outside my league tho) I'll see what I can do, but that would require me to set up a Gentoo VM. Thanks, I'll see what can be done |
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miner looks fine, does your client work?
I got the client compiled in my kubuntu laptop and as expected, miner started to work. But I can not run miner and client at the same time in my Gentoo box Eh, guess I should eventually figure out how to do a somewhat decent static build for them Linuxes, so that a lot of this will be cut out. Did you try changing the rpcport in config ? From the look of it, the miner seems just pointed someplace else. Did you try passing username and password as --userpass 1:1 ? |
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Actually, I am pretty impressed. And I'm hard to impress. Tenebrix is the first alternative cyptocurrency that I believe has the right mix of innovation, conformity with the safety mechanisms of Bitcoin, and leadership. The future of crypocurrency is bright indeed.
I feel that the Soildcoin developers could get quite close to Tenebrix in version 2, but without that leadership and knowledge, they will inevitably fail.
Excuse me Maged, KGB has seized my hardware sarcasm detector, and software implementation is kinda meh. Are you being sarcastic ? I am being quite serious. Things are actually getting somewhere now! (without destroying themselves in the process) Well, Geist Geld so far has not destroyed itself (despite a turbulent beginning that has lead to discovery of no less than two exploits in "typical bitcoin implementation") and is feeling nice (It would benefit a lot from some more coder love though, as there is an upper limit as to a given graphic designer's C-ing ability) But I am very pleased with your kind assessment of Tenebrix, thank you. |
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Be nice to have a windows binary.
It's right in the first post, man Q: Where are the windows binaries ? <<<<<<<A: Here, with neato QT GUI and wrapped in a portability suite so that you don't have to set anything up and have easier time backing stuff up |
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only one point from a "normal" W7-user:
SC2.0 is an outstanding user friendly software:
downloading, installing, hashing and "earning" (testwise)
Tenebrix is just the opposite:
download, read something about installing...
it's like a construction manual from IKEA - sometimes it works...
erase that software is what a "normal" user does...
Well, Tenebrix was born pretty impulsively out of discussion on IRC. Having said that, as a windows 7 user to a windows 7 user, which part of the "portable windows bundle" is the most confusing, the mining part ?
Actually that was pretty smart of them, IMHO
We shall see... The company hardly seems reputable or established, and apart from a high margin shopping site and a questionable overpriced way to buy bullion all of their "Killer apps" are "coming soon"... I predict it will fold fairly quickly. It is still a company and not a quasi-State construct fueled by "pseudo-taxes" and existing in a medium that is quite hostile to State-like structures. Having said that, I am not personally opposed to the Solidcoin experiment, just not optimistic as to eventual fate of quasi-States made from sheer Internet, arcane mathematications, and a very special form of "leadership driven" outlook (I do tend to pull its leg on occasion, but as you might easily observe, I try to remain civil and fairly lighthearted in these exchanges of opinions ) Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke  ) But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Appropriate joke answer from a joke coin maker. Tenebrix is purely a troll against Solidcoin, and nobody's impressed. Actually, I am pretty impressed. And I'm hard to impress. Tenebrix is the first alternative cyptocurrency that I believe has the right mix of innovation, conformity with the safety mechanisms of Bitcoin, and leadership. The future of crypocurrency is bright indeed. I feel that the Soildcoin developers could get quite close to Tenebrix in version 2, but without that leadership and knowledge, they will inevitably fail. Excuse me Maged, KGB has seized my hardware sarcasm detector, and software implementation is kinda meh. Are you being sarcastic ? |
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I must be missing something here.
Is there a some type of help doc or what ever on how to run this miner in linux?
Does running <minerd --help> in the terminal um, help ?
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I moved it to .../.gg/ before I even ran it the first time (and also ran it under a separate low security account)
No chance in hell am I gonna trust some other coin to go anywhere near my .bitcoin folder
As I already said before, you didn't bother to do 5 minutes worth of effort to rename the 'bitcoin' text/names and files ...
(which I did to mine before running it)
What do you want, I am a humble and absent-minded graphic designer with a penchant for cryptocoin shenanigans, not a Programmer with a capital P lol |
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ckolivas won't add features for this Well, who knows, who knows.  Yes who would that be Brief googlespedition suggests that you are not him. Besides, I think I might spare some BTC for having Tenebrix support in cgminer or a separate tenebrix branch (whichever requires smaller donation, I'm sadly not a millionaire ) LOL no I am not him - I meant in reply to what you said ... OF COURSE  But you ignored what I would suspect for any coin would be the important part of my post ... git is missing the build files I do suck at them Linux environments hard, but doesn't QT creator / qmake generally need just the pro file to start truckin' ? I mean, multicoin-qt, the grandfather of Tenebrix, seems to only have the .pro file as well so has anyone beaten the 2 khash/sec per core barrier yet?
BTW thank you lolcust! You're the most awesome alt chain developer yet!
Calling me developer is flattering and a mite exaggerating, man. I am more of, I dunno, really. A loud guy in the crowd who decided to go and make a coin instead of posting threads about conceptual merits of hypothetical X For TBX specifically, ArtForz and Multicoin folk deserve 95% of the kudos |
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Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke ) But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Appropriate joke answer from a joke coin maker. Tenebrix is purely a troll against Solidcoin, and nobody's impressed. Y u h8 me ? Tenebrix and solidcoin are both srs bzns You're right to mention the Solidcoin "tax", as it is the one thing that puts it head and shoulders above every other coin Oh well... We will call it a tax for ease of responding to trolling, but as you know It's not exactly a tax in the classical sense. Miners will still earn 32 coins per block as they always have done. Nothing is deducted, only added. It's trivial to frame taxes in same way with clever accounting. In fact, that is exactly what typical sources on tax do, in a roundabout way :-) I like to think of it more as a sovereign bond Lol that certainly makes it better. What next, solidcoin conscription army and solidcoin Lukashenko ? The fund created by the tax will ensure Solidcoin's future and will hopefully make it into a truly open, self-funded project. The first of its kind in the world. The only way Bitcoin have to "solve" the funding issue is to put Gavin on the payroll of a privately owned exchange company... Great idea guys.  Actually that was pretty smart of them, IMHO |
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ckolivas won't add features for this Well, who knows, who knows. Yes who would that be Brief googlespedition suggests that you are not him. Besides, I think I might spare some BTC for having Tenebrix support in cgminer or a separate tenebrix branch (whichever requires smaller donation, I'm sadly not a millionaire ) |
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ckolivas won't add features for this Well, who knows, who knows. As for the actual scrypt - lol r=1, p=1, N=1024 so you are joking right? Since the scrypt part was done by ArtForz, I believe it would be most welcome if you provided a more elaborate criticism and kindly informed him of your opinion, so as to prevent possible distortion of you communication and expedite formation of improvements And like I said, even if current PoW turns out to be insufficiently good at discouraging GPU mining, it can always be updated. The real issue is that I'd doubt anyone would bother to write a GPU version since there is no gain from the effort and there are few who are experienced at working with OpenCL ...
We shall see...but the point isn't that OpenCL version is impossible (that indeed would be a nontrivial feat), the point is that it would be not verily likely to achieve even measly improvements over CPU in same approximate price range (I haven't yet decided as to criteria of performance increase "over CPU" in GPU implementations I could use as reference for bounty establishment, and am open to suggestions ) Should such a miner happen, the author will get a bounty, and whomever submits a patch that drops GPUs down again will get a bounty (so one can submit both the optimized GPU miner and Tenebrix fix to keep such optimizations at bay) A: Efforts shall be taken not only keep up, but peek ahead of the curve and ensure that tenebrix remains CPU friendly and GPU hostile, no matter what kind of GPUs future science will throw at us. Being FPGA and ASIC hostile is harder, given their flexibility, though frankly, if someone, at some point in time, will be willing to throw that kind of money and engineering skillz at mining Tenebix, that already makes Tenebrix a success You do realize the guy who helped you write the code is an authority on FPGA mining, right? Exactimundo. That's why implementation by ArtForz > other similar endeavors (unless proven otherwise) It would be trivially easy for him to implement it on his FPGAs. Like I said, fighting something as flexible as FPGAs and ASICS seems fairly absurd, and is not main subject of Tenebrix endeavor. The main goal is to keep GPUs (both "vanilla" and "pro") out of the pool for good.If FPGA gets harder too - neat, but no biggie. If an optimized FPGA appears, no biggie, we're primarily hunting them GPUs here. And the only scenario under which I could see ASICs being deployed on this chain is "USA abandons dollar, embraces Tenebrix as legal tender" (and at that point all COTS hardware gets out of the pool, lol ) |
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I see in the tenebrix.conf , under "
#IMPORTANT STUFF BELOW! DON'T CHANGE! (Unless you REALLY know what your are doing)" there's testnet=1 . Does this mean we'll only be mining test brix currently?
No, that's just leftover Multicoin legacy. BTW check it out, Multicoin is great and has very friendly community That didn't work out for long.. gpu hashrates slowed down too much when enabling minerd on the same cpu core. Setting a low priority for minerd didn't help. 3 threads will do for now. Using process lasso to put the threads on desired cores.
Is it possible we can use CGminer-cpuonly with this algo?
Might be, if someone mods it Also, I think that it might be possible to limit the Tenebtix miner so that amount of punishment it dishes out per core can be tweaked more effectively. I think I will put a decent-ish bounty on that slightly later. EDIT: Which you would rather I put a bounty on, splicing Tenebrix implementation of scrypt into cgminer or further tweaking of Jgarzik's code ? |
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Seems like an unstable buggy piece of crap. Ever heard of testing?
Actually, it has been tested and behaves quite well on windows so far. Linux, alas, received less love, but hey, I'm a Windoze addict and just one oddball linux bug reported so far, we're going fine and will certainly get better. But thanks for your opinion thanks, switching -s to 5 fixes it. I'm getting 1.2-3khashes on my q9400@3.2ghz and 1.08khash on my sisters q8200. I had --s 120 now I have --s 5 and I still get boooo's Try different values, some peeps have other numbers working better. Also, what are your hashrates ? Thank you Lolcust for the generous starting bounty!
Been mining during the night with 2 spare cores on my i5 2500k (Dedicated one core to 100% cpu bug for gpu mining and one core left free for system stability.) and my second rig is mining with C2D E6750. Found nearly 30 blocks so far.
Will unleash it on all of the i5 cores during the day to see how it affects overall system performance and gpu mining.
Ya welcome, please report back |
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Hi community! The question is thus: Would you rather have Geist's default folders be like "\Application Data\ Bitcoin\geistdata" ( "~/ .bitcoin/geistdata" on linuxes) or "\Application Data\ geistgeld\geistdata" ( "~/ .geistgeld/geistdata" on linuxes) ? (I'm renaming the testnet folder in any case, tho worry not, the wallet hiden within will be easily copied over into the new folder. Also default config will be now geist.conf) I have been receiving mixed feedback and decided to invoke democracy |
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