Am I missing something, or is the "New Unique Game" is an exact bustabit clone (which incidentally, I think is probably already bitcoin's most popular gambling site)?  |
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Hey Guys -
Yes, I can confirm Monster Byte is still pursuing its acquisition of MoneyPot. In fact, we've continued to spend capital to advance quite a bit of behind the scenes features to ensure we hit the ground running once we are officially completed with the acquisition.
The giant elephant in the room is the pending claim that the MoneyPot team is working on defending in the Canadian courts. Months ago we mentioned we wouldn't comment on the case, and we still won't as it's not fair to the old MoneyPot team or the person making the claim. Our hope, and expectation, is that MoneyPot and the person who made the claim will both agree to a reasonable resolution where both parties are content, and we can all move forward with our plans and initiatives with MoneyPot.
More to come...
Are you acquiring "MoneyPot Inc" as in the Canadian company (which is being sued) and leaving the assets in the company? Or is more of just a transfer of the assets/brand/domain/ip so the creditor has no financial upside in his court case? |
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Is this really the answer on why he removed it? Pretty sure that I dont really see any abuser on bustadice, I am only daily atleast on the site. Just watching some whale wagering on high roller and I dont really see anyone trying high multiplier with the faucet just like the other site. Also the faucet gives 1 bit if you claim it multiple times which is really low
Generally faucet abuse manifest as bots that claim the faucet and try turn it into a decent amount (e.g. all-in-bet at 100x two times in a row) and then immediately withdraw if they win. At least it my experience it's a bit of a waste of energy and a losing battle trying to deal with this. I think the two nicest solutions are just making sure your faucet is so much worse than others that it doesn't attract abuse, or just not have it at all. |
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Checkout dicesites.com they have information on all the established sites that have public stats
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Ah, super cool RGBKey! I've sent you the bounty  hopefully it's a good framework for people who want to look back in history |
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So you can only code for bustabit? If I found out other similar games to crash games, can I pass it down for you just to help me for coding it?
I believe bustabit and all the clones use javascript for the autobet system, so I'm sure the OP would have no problems with any other site. I will however point out that bustabit/bustadice uses an extensive sandbox system, that makes it exceedingly hard to write malicious scripts (other than the obvious way of betting in a way you didn't want) and executes inside an iframe that doesn't have ability to interact with the page except through an explicit interface. AFAIK none of the clones or other casinos do this, so you need to be a lot more careful when executing scripts as it's pretty easy for them to do stuff like inject into the page an phish you and other nasty things like that. |
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I've been trying to do it myself as I was curious. I've run into a problem where I cannot take the SHA3-256 HMAC of something, or I am doing it wrong. window.crypto.subtle.importKey does not support SHA3 operations, and I'm having an incredible amount of trouble trying to use outside code (current was trying to use http://caligatio.github.com/jsSHA/ as an alternative, but cannot get it to work). Yeah, I had a try and it's a real pain in the ass. What would be ideal if devans could just expose a top level `bustaHash` and `hashToBust` function or something, I think it'd be super easy |
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one would need to place multiple bets and thus recording past data comes at a risk
Sorry, I wasn't being clear. I mean just looking at the past games (but not the times you played in the past). You can actually offline generate all the past games like this: https://jsfiddle.net/Dexon95/2fmuxLza/embedded/result/ where the only input is the game hash (which you can grab from the engine). So when the script first runs, it can generate the past n games, and then keep that list incrementally up to date after each game bust event. It's definitely an annoying and challenging script to write, but thought it'd be good to see how you guys do Good luck! |
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Interesting service, I like the no-bullshit style of you use =) To kick it off, I'll offer $125 (payable in bits on bustabit) if you can write a script that (through the gui) takes: * n -- integer * t -- multiplier * wager And bets in all games if and only if multiplier t hasn't happened in the last n games. When the script starts, it should use the provably fair system [1] to generate the last n games, so it can check when the last time t multiplier was hit. [1] Which is unfortunately a pain in the ass now, as there's no exported function to make it easy. (and the script should be made public, and free for anyone to use ) |
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What do you think about for your "Daily invested" chart, that you subtract the "Daily profit"? As it's a lot more interesting to see net investments/divestments rather than (net investments + profit) Awesome site, btw :d |
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How do these kinds of deals work? It sounds interesting but I can't say I understand it... Please provide more information.
It's pretty straight forward. You add him on skype, and then he'll either send you to a phishing link, ask you to install some malware or even possibly ask for money up front. As devans (the owner of bustabit) said, he's not associated with the site -- he's just here to scam. |
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I am still not sure about compatitbility with older wallets - would it confuse any service/wallet that accepts incoming transactions?
It's fine. There will be some minor issues with some wallets/services not seeing them until they confirm (as from their point of view, they're non-standard), but not really a big deal at all as soon as it confirms it'll show up |
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Damn, just saw bustadice at #1 position for weekly wagered on dicesites.com:  Congratulations! |
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The software is literally advertising the ability to rig games and cheat users ( archive). Anyone would be stupid to download this, much less pay for it. a) It's unlicensed by the actual bustabit b) You have no problems with scamming users, which makes me think you'll have no problem scamming casinos themselves (which has been a big problem with unauthorized bustabit clones in the past). I have seen people selling "cheap" copies of bustabit, which have backdoors and malware c) Educated users will know the software comes with the ability to rig it (and the lack of proper provably fair), making the chances it is a commercial success almost 0 However, I'll give them some credit for candor:  |
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It wouldn't be 70 btc. I can move most of the BTC offsite so that there's only 1.5 btc on the account (onsite). It will still have dilution credits up to 70 BTC (which you can invest up to without paying the 1% dilution fee)
You should be able to completely divest your position, without affecting your dilution-free-credits. Although I think the only suitable escrow for the trade would be Daniel himself, as he can verify everything is in order. |
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It's been done before, although didn't get enough traction to keep going. But from a technical perspective, you can follow this procedure: https://web.archive.org/web/20151213003346/pevpot.com/provably-fairThe probably is, unless the prize is going to be worth >20 BTC -- there's little incentive to really play such a lottery, and people are probably better off playing on a dice site for instant gratification. If you could get a prize pool worth >100 BTC, it'd certainly be interesting -- but to be honest, I'm not sure how you'd sell enough tickets. |
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Not only satoshibones, almost all bitcoin sites are nuts now day with fees. I had bad experience with sites like nitrogensports and localbitcoins.
You might want to checkout bustadice/bustabit -- both popular sites and one of the few sites that actually handles bitcoin payments properly, and extremely cheaply. (Even allowing you to trade off speed for price if that's your thing). I'm actually currently using bustabit as my day-to-day wallet, the system is that good |
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I do not exactlly understand what is meant by a a lot of bankrolls and virtual bankroll.
Just terminology, you understand =) I would do exactly what you say: Group all investors by their leverage amount, each of those would be a "bankroll". And then the "virtual bankroll" is the sum of all those bankrolls * the leverage. And then after each game, wins and loses are shared amongst the bankrolls according to their size relative to the "virtual bankroll" |
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RHavar, dooglus, is there any problems with such "real leverage" investments?
I don't see any. I think it's a very good idea. I think "ideally" the site should probably have 4 bankrolls, one for 0.5x, 1x, 2x and 4x. (and then combine them into 1 "virtualized" bankroll). And allow people to invest into any leveraged bankroll they want. I think combined with offsite, it would be a pretty ideal system. Although I think though there is a point where the bankroll gets big enough, that it's no longer a limiting factor for any whales -- and as such there's no real need to even be offering such leverage (and would be better off making sure everyone is on the lowest) |
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I can't imagine that "real leverage" is better than "offsite investing" in every case. Shouldn't there be a trade-off?
Agree. I think they're largely orthogonal. Although "offsite investing" can be used to (poorly) emulate "real leverage" and vice versa, but I think they largely serve different goals. There's definitely no reason you couldn't combine both |
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