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581  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 03:50:49 PM
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What are you talking about??!

It is all in the code here, like, you know, in the protocol you just cannot change you pedo freak  Kiss

That's right, it's all in the code. Which will change into whatever Core's puppet masters want it to be Smiley



errr, nope. still lots of people not willing to 'upgrade'. dont worry. Smiley




different clients, one protocol, same rules.. isnt that wonderful?

Lol @ not understanding that different clients are different because different rules & that any hard fork will make any client not following it as relevant as BBQ client.
582  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 03:37:48 PM
With Consensus reached wouldn't it be time we get above the $500 mark this week?


I guess it depends on what you mean by "consensus."



I was talking about this consensus. Maybe i don't read enough but isn't this the thing that gets everything back on track into 1 camp again?
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-core-miners-agree-hard-fork-code-comes-july-2016-activation-in-2017/

Well, if you feel that a bunch of pool owners meeting behind closed doors with Core reps & signing a stump speech document makes for consensus, I guess it's moon time Smiley
Edit:
Please read the thing that was signed, and examine each item on the list.
Even if we construe this as a legally binding document, what, other than "[limit won't be more than] 4MB," did Core commit to? What did the miners?


ROFL at "legally binding document"  Cheesy

whatever rocks your statist governance creepy boat troll.

Because unsigned non-violent non-aggressive non-contracts have proven themselves to be 100% effective throughout history. With Bitcoin in particular.


What are you talking about??!

It is all in the code here, like, you know, in the protocol you just cannot change you pedo freak  Kiss

That's right, it's all in the code. Which will change into whatever Core's puppet masters want it to be Smiley



Re. pedo freak: Who's the bro taking fashion cues from Uncle Fester?
583  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Value 2016 on: February 22, 2016, 03:32:28 PM


Another Bitcoin poll. Right choice isn't even on the menu Sad
2 months into 2016; highest resistance price thus far: $500

Lowered Expectations



~ time passes ~


584  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 03:09:10 PM
With Consensus reached wouldn't it be time we get above the $500 mark this week?


I guess it depends on what you mean by "consensus."



I was talking about this consensus. Maybe i don't read enough but isn't this the thing that gets everything back on track into 1 camp again?
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-core-miners-agree-hard-fork-code-comes-july-2016-activation-in-2017/

Well, if you feel that a bunch of pool owners meeting behind closed doors with Core reps & signing a stump speech document makes for consensus, I guess it's moon time Smiley
Edit:
Please read the thing that was signed, and examine each item on the list.
Even if we construe this as a legally binding document, what, other than "[limit won't be more than] 4MB," did Core commit to? What did the miners?


ROFL at "legally binding document"  Cheesy

whatever rocks your statist governance creepy boat troll.

Because unsigned non-violent non-aggressive non-contracts have proven themselves to be 100% effective throughout history. With Bitcoin in particular.

585  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Roundtable Retreat - 70 top Techies & CEOs - What should be covered? on: February 22, 2016, 03:04:23 PM
A written contract that confirm that you all agree for a same direction, handsigned by everyone would a good idea I think. I least we would know that tommorow another new idea will pop up and create again a big mess.

But look at what was "signed": do you see any points in that list that could be construed as legally binding? Other than block size limit won't be > 4MB when/if it happens?
586  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 02:41:55 PM
With Consensus reached wouldn't it be time we get above the $500 mark this week?


I guess it depends on what you mean by "consensus."



I was talking about this consensus. Maybe i don't read enough but isn't this the thing that gets everything back on track into 1 camp again?
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-core-miners-agree-hard-fork-code-comes-july-2016-activation-in-2017/

Well, if you feel that a bunch of pool owners meeting behind closed doors with Core reps & signing a stump speech document makes for consensus, I guess it's moon time Smiley
Edit:
Please read the thing that was signed, and examine each item on the list.
Even if we construe this as a legally binding document, what, other than "[limit won't be more than] 4MB," did Core commit to? What did the miners?
587  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 02:37:41 PM

satoshi makes history again
588  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 02:26:39 PM
With Consensus reached wouldn't it be time we get above the $500 mark this week?


I guess it depends on what you mean by "consensus."

589  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Roundtable Retreat - 70 top Techies & CEOs - What should be covered? on: February 22, 2016, 02:14:14 PM
Retreat... more like paid CIA agents trying to push their Bitcoin Classic agenda even after it already failed. ...
#notparanoidschizophrenic
590  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 02:03:19 PM
we don't bet high, since china is the biggest base of bitcoin mining/trading.
China is the biggest base for many other things. It is quite natural to be the biggest base for bitcoin mining/trading as well.

I agree, but my concern is with their closed and ultra-controlling political system. since they're not a democracy, it's not good news for bitcoin that so much of it's structure is in the hands of a totalitarian regime... no?

Don't let yourself be brainwashed by US propaganda machine. China is more democratic than US! <snip>

"I understood at last the look in his eyes. He was insane." --Grendel

591  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: February 22, 2016, 01:57:27 PM
... That is the reason bitcoin would be more successful in many countries where people still do not have access to traditional bank...

...but have smartphones with unlimited internet & retailers who accept BTC.



Roughly HALF of us humans live on less than $2 US/day.
592  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Value 2016 on: February 22, 2016, 01:32:58 PM
around 600-800$, won't be more, and maybe it will even fall down to 300$, halving, media, panic will change price

Halving won't decrease the price.

But media and panic and pump and dump linked to the halving could.

I think the halving will increase the price quite a lot. The manipulation by big whales will reduce the price.

only momentarily, whales final target is to have a higher price, they manipulate to buy even more coins not to kill the value

Bitcoins = Digital Gold;
BTCeanies = Furry Gold Cool

593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: February 22, 2016, 01:19:24 PM

Update on Classic hashrate support
-snip-
I wonder when they're going to de-list the, if ever?

Maybe right a BIP about it.

ITT: we think as goodly as we right.

                                                                            rite?


...righte?
594  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 01:05:03 PM
we don't bet high, since china is the biggest base of bitcoin mining/trading.
China is the biggest base for many other things. It is quite natural to be the biggest base for bitcoin mining/trading as well.

You bet Smiley

595  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 12:58:01 AM
... i want this resolved ASAP way more.
Not possible due to
...
☑  everyone loses. I win Smiley
596  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin used to do money laundering - will it become a huge problem? on: February 21, 2016, 07:08:02 PM
... If this trend would end for God's sake, that would be great.

See those ads in signatures, like the one in yours? That's why this thread exists -- so people could spam for the sake of a few satoshis. Most posters here have no idea what money laundering is, possibly because Google Translate has failed them.
597  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2016, 06:58:01 PM
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Yeah I dunno I've never really understood that kind of greed. It's like you can only drive 1 car at a time right so I don't want a red, orange, yellow, and black lambo (though it would be nice to have 1). Actually come to think of it life is pretty fine for me I do own my house and my bmw and usually sit on my ass all day trading bitcoin in my pajamas and listening to music or just do whatever I feel like with my time. Hmmm maybe I'm rich enough already to be happy and ought to just give up this bitcoin thing ? naaaahhhhh Grin  Grin  Grin

Lambos are to cars what a porn stars are to sex -- ridiculous, showy, would be embarrassed to be seen in one.
Car freaks I know drive shitboxen/really boring "grown up" cars for daily drivers -- people who race modded P-51s are probably no different -- probably drive something lame too. I mean, if you fly @ 500mph a few feet off the ground, an occasional 180mph blip on the highway won't be much of a rush.
It's not about conspicuous consumption.

The people with money I know aren't necessarily greedy -- they're often stingy, to the point where I wind up adding to the tip when we go out for lunch (because they figured it out *to the penny*). They're into money the same [personal, irrational] way I like '50s to '70s mechanical things that go fast. They don't need the money they make, I don't need to fuck with weird cars so they would handle a hair better & go a few mph faster. Money's not a means to get something else for them, it's an end in itself -- no different than obsessing about weird cars/bikes/toob gear/BTC/old guitars.
Just something they like.

Oh yeah I don't think I'd ever own a lambo I was just using that as an example of an expensive unnecessary thing a greedy person might want. I'd rather have an old 50s chevy hotrod myself if I was going to get something impractical for a toy. Seems like one of those planes would cost an awful lot for basically a toy for an adrenaline rush and to some extent would be a status symbol necessitating some level of greed, maybe that's not the right word, lust for interest in or obsession with maybe would have been more correct? Honestly I didn't look real closely at it I assumed it was a private jet. I still think it's weird to see money as an end in itself. It's supposed to buy you things for utility use and fun. My skis cost like 300. Kayak like 500. All my hiking gear maybe a grand total. Chessboard was like 50 bucks. I guess I have cheap hobbies / interests. Didn't realize I was talking to lambie been kindof avoiding the forum you must be doing well it's been pleasant interacting with you never thought I'd see the day. Did I have a stroke what the F is going on here? heheh

Some people get off on abstract stuff, and money's the abstraction they like to play with. I mean, you play chess for fun, some play EVE, others play IRL Business. They don't stick to pure abstractions (like EVE) for, probably, the same reason I don't stick to making technical drawings -- I wanna actually chuck up a chunk of billet in a lathe/set it up on an old Bridgeport & make piles of metal chips. For fun.

The "rich" people I know aren't even greedy, in the Scrooge sense. They get off on making humongous deals happen -- same way you get off on skiing or climbing; money's just the metal chips made along the way, and a way to keep score.
BTC traders are like that too, I suppose, only the byproduct of their fetish -- the detritus left in the wake of them getting their kicks -- is not piles of money as with teh rich, but poverty, tears, regret & financial ruin Cheesy

P.S. I'm not talking about the moral implications of having huge sums of money here -- simply how those sums came about for the few people I know.
598  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2016, 06:05:58 PM
Core developers honestly and sincerely want to write the best code. What the Core developers don't understand is that the best code doesn't win. The code that gives people the best value wins. It's why Microsoft beat Apple in the 1980s.  MSDOS was shit code, but it was free.  We used it. ...

DOS was never free, intellectual property thief!
Filing internet police report as we speak Angry

...
Coins are moving! what are the chances that those coins are moving to exchanges where they will be dumped on the heads of overoptimistic bulls? 
599  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2016, 04:56:17 PM
... Core will reject the agreement and the miners will reject Core. ...
BTC CYOA:
☐  and then they lived happily ever after.
☑  everyone loses. I win Smiley
600  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 21, 2016, 04:26:56 PM
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* When the majority of Miners are taken in by slideshows about "how democracy is about wolves and lambz", then you gotta take money from them.

Cheesy (swallowed coffee before reading, so it's all good)
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